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Spotrac has his post 6/1 trade hit as $6.5M in 24 and $5.8M. So it would cost us maybe $6M in cap I think.

Hey man. you don't gotta tell me. The biggest feather in this regime's cap was turning an unheralded fifth round rotational DB and a 7th round backup into All-Pro/Pro-Bowl caliber safeties. Wish we could just target guys like that again instead of chasing them in the 2nd round.

Just to echo the SVPG pick. he just feels like the pick that 3 years from now is gonna be firmly a hit and a steal.

Better go out and fire up your Madden franchise if you wanna see that.

so what

Treylon Burks HAS to be available.

Just so I get this straight, does this mean you think that Beane has done just the right amount resource allocation in WR and RB? Like, in your opinion, there's nothing to quibble about in terms of how many RB's or WR's he drafts?

Me.

TE’s aren’t paid like WR’s.

my man, you aren’t “over the conversation,” you just know that I trumped you misrepresenting pretty much everything I said. You called me a liar, but can’t demonstrate where I lied, because it’s a complete fabrication from you lol. I appreciate your attempt to try to save face but it’s not gonna happen like that lmao. The point is that I think Brandon Beane overvalues RB’s and under values WR’s.

Poor @Alphadawg7 he’s gonna be looking all day for these posts. I’ll help you out man. They don’t exist. You’re arguing with the voices in your head.

Who lied? Quote where this was said. Quote where this was said. Sorry @GoBills808, not sure why it quoted you. I’m asking @Alphadawg7

Ahem, I think this is what we call “moving the goal posts.” ”I didn’t mean the posts I’ve been furiously responding to for the last 24 hours! I meant the other posts…. somewhere…… I swear!” Game over my friend

can you move the goal posts if you said exactly the same thing you said initially? Tough scene. If you had only read the posts you responded to, it would’ve saved you so much time looking foolish lmao. What a waste. Maybe next time I’ll do an @Alphadawg7 edit where I bold things so you can follow along better. Gotta appeal to the lowest common denominator of reading comprehension. Who WOULDN’T be satisfied with a 2nd, two 3rds and a 4th at RB in 6 years?

I don’t disagree there’s a case by case basis with some of this stuff. And imo the most important thing is separating results from process. Because results can be fickle. I can think throwing seconds and thirds at RB’s is generally poor strategy, but if you do it every once in a while and get a dynamic threat like Cook, that’s fine. If Coleman becomes Mike Evans 2.0 and Shakir becomes Diggs 2.0, then all the hubbub about process becomes irrelevant. My biggest belief in the NFL is that you can be right for the wrong reasons and wrong for the right reasons. It’s why I don’t kill Beane for the Von Miller deal. We needed an elite pass rusher, we just lost in an OT shout out to the preeminent dynasty of our time, our #2 WR just had one of the greatest games in playoff history. An elite EDGE player, who was yes, long in the tooth and an injury concern made a lot of sense. It didn’t work out and that sucks. I do think there are some prevailing strategies that Beane cannot or will not follow. And that goes beyond this off-season. He’s a receiving target that plays TE. He doesn’t play WR. And I specifically said WR, multiple times. So you lose, again.

Of course he was drafted as a receiving threat. You don't take a TE in the first round to block (at least I hope they wouldn't). He's not going to be paid as a WR, he will be paid as a TE. Which is a good thing. The top 5 TE contracts in the NFL would be the 10th, 13th, 13th, 14th and 14th WR contracts TODAY. Those will all get bumped down a couple more places when JJ and Higgins and Chase get their long-term deals soon. That kind of highlights part of the reason why I'd like to draft more of them. If they hit and are a Pro-Bowler, you are getting tremendous value compared to their open market value. That's why the Eagles drafted two more this year while having AJ Brown and Smith under contract. Because they are valuable and it's not a bad thing to have 3-4 of them (see Trent Sherfield in the playoffs).

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4385690/dalton-kincaid DALTONKINCAID Bills #86 TE https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KincDa00.htm Dalton Kincaid Position: TE What position does he play? WR or TE? You know what? Find me a source that says Dalton Kincaid plays WR and not TE. I’ll wait. The whole reason your point is so silly is because acquiring WR’s isn’t just about putting talent around Josh, it’s about recognizing that the WR market has completely exploded and these guys are going to get harder and harder to pay. It’s about recognizing the league value as a position. Kincaid isn’t going to get paid like a WR. Just like Kelce hasn’t. Because they are TE’s. Because they are “weapons.” Because they AREN’T WR’s, which is why I didn’t ***** mention them when talking about WR’s. FFS, annoying AND wrong is a dangerous combo.

Levis plays the exact opposite of Tannehill. Shocking comparison.

Yes they have. They have spent more on WR’s. That is what I said. You keep changing it to “weapons” (which I never said) so you can include Kincaid lmao. I thought we were making up our own arguments for the other person then knocking them down. Right? Water is wet! You’re wrong. Don’t get upset that I took your game and went pro.

@Alphadawg7 can’t admit the bolded. He has to do the whole “argue a different point than what was made, then declare victory,” strategy. Unfortunately for him, I was trolling TBD when he was a twinkle in his father’s eye. He can’t fool me.

Hey @Alphadawg7 the sky isn’t green dude, it’s blue. You’re wrong! I win!

We already have a QB. So I’m not really worried about drafting a worse one and paying him and starting him, right? What I do like is the Eagles’ approach to team building. Appropriately dedicating assets to WR (they just signed both their starters to long-term extensions and they still drafted 2 in the best WR draft in a while.) Emphasis on OL and disruptors on DL. Understanding the RB market and drafting a single RB above round 4 in the last 8 years. Not afraid to move around the draft board to target their players. You’re right, it could be all Roseman and maybe Halaby doesn’t have the same juice. But I much prefer that team building style (of a team that has gone to 2 SB’s and won 1), over the Carolina redux style (that went to 1 SB and got embarrassed because Cam was throwing to trash cans). I’m talking about WR’s. Jesus Christ lmao. This is getting sad. See I said: “The back to back champs have invested a lot more at WR than we have. Same with their opponents in the Super Bowl” and then you make your gibberish post about weapons. I didn’t say weapons. I said WR. Read the posts you’re responding to before you waste your time writing 3 paragraphs I’m not going to read. And CEH was a horrific pick. They certainly should have took Tee Higgins, which I said at the time. So good one?

The back to back champs have invested a lot more at WR than we have. Same with their opponents in the Super Bowl. And Kincaid isn’t Kelce 2.0 yet. Like I said, the fact that you have to include Kincaid in a discussion about the Bills WR investments is proof positive you have nothing here lmao. “We drafted Knox 4 years ago, how can you say we don’t invest enough in WR’s?”

Oh, they should have fired their HC. You know the Eagles were in the Superbowl a year ago, right? With a far worse QB than ours, right?

I definitely would have. You're the one who finds that so outlandish. We traded for Diggs 4 years ago. That's a long time in the NFL.