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The Big Temperamental

What was maddening is that Allen played like 3 Q’s dinking and dunking, had the two deep shots to Diggs and Sherfield that they both whiffed on, and then went for that. The Bills stayed in that game by Allen taking the short stuff and he just…stopped. I know he plays a lot of Madden and he also lived 13 seconds. If you are gonna win a football game against an offense you can’t stop, you have to score with almost no time left. Period.

So it would be fair to say you think McD hasn’t been good enough to win it all the last 4 seasons but doesn’t mean he can’t so you aren’t ready to pull the plug yet? I think that’s a fair take. FWIW, I’m not really on the Fire McD train. But what I think that argument is, at its core, is haggling over when he gets canned. Which is kind of a bad spot to be in. Because there are very few coaches without a title who get that rope, and rightfully so. I have McD right in that Tomlin/Harbaugh class. Floor raiser leader of men who isn’t really elite but a fine coach. The problem is that I think the Ravens AND Steelers would have, rightfully, fired both those dudes if they didn’t have hardware from a decade ago. And honestly, there’s a reasonable argument that they should have canned both of them. I’m not ready to throw in the towel on McD and say the message got stale and it’s time for a change, literally, because of last year. That team had EVERY excuse to roll over and die. Bunch of old guys on their last legs, injuries, firing an OC, 6-6, Diggs drama. But they didn’t. So that’s why I think McD deserves 2024. Imo, he’s coaching for his supper going forward, and Beane is GMing for his job here too (because I actually think Beane is the bigger problem)

Okay fine but Josh Allen is now going into year 7. So what is the hold up?

100% Chase probably has top 2 raw talent of this WR group. The perk of having a strong lockerroom and good football culture is that lost souls like Claypool have a chance of falling in line. it’s a long shot but man oh man would it be nice.

It’s no different than the Pats. The 2018 Pats team that went to the SB were FAR less talented than the 2018 Rams team. But they had a relatively inexperienced young coach and young QB and they mentally fell completely apart when faced with a good defensive gameplan. Tom Brady won that Super Bowl without scoring a touchdown. It was a mental struggle, and the Pats won the game before they stepped on the field.

Oh I had nothing to disagree with, just making the point. In my book, taking over a more talented team as an HC AND finding a franchise QB sooner should be a recipe to be MORE successful FASTER. The argument that @Buffalo716 is making is the opposite. I don't think we can point to a team in history that was worse off because their coach took over a more talented team and found their franchise QB faster. Maybe McD and the Bills broke the mold in that regard.

It’s very funny because this argument in reverse is so much more persuasive. If McD and Allen had won three SB’s and Reid and Mahomes had 0. “Reid took over a much worse team at 2-14. McD took over a fringe playoff team that was never gonna sniff the #1 overall pick.” ”it took Reid 6 years to find his franchise QB! McD found his by year 2!” unfortunately we live in the reality where taking over a team picking 10th instead picking 1st is a “disadvantage,” and finding your franchise elite QB 2 years into your tenure is a “disadvantage” instead of finding him in 6 years.

I’m not actually on the fire McD train. I think that the top level assets that have been acquired for defense haven’t really been top level since like 2017. All those first and second round picks on defense and our best defensive players have been Milano, Hyde, Poyer, and White for the majority of this era. More importantly, I think last year was arguably his best coach job in NFL history. They could have easily been the Sirianni Eagles and collapsed down the stretch, especially with the media hatchet job. I think McD and the Bills can beat anyone in the playoffs. I like their chances against almost anyone, except the Chiefs. I think there’s too much familiarity and mental edge there. Just like when the drought era Bills played a limping Pats team several times throughout the years. That storybook is littered with games the Bills should’ve won, but didn’t. And in that specific instance, of facing that specific team in the postseason, I think there’s an argument that a coaching change is the way through. This is gonna sound kinda crazy, but if the 2024 Bills are facing the 2024 Chiefs in the divisional round, and you asked if I could have Ben Johnson/BB or Brady/McD for that one game, it’s a landslide for the former. And that’s not supposed to really be a knock on McD.

They won the Super Bowl and their QB’s got hurt! Bills fans talking about wasting a year with a hang over after a SB win is BANANAS

Downfield blocking and in-line blocking are different animals

Gary Kubiak was hired by the Broncos in 2015, he changed offensive schemes and defensive schemes and beat BB in the AFCCG. Coaching changes for contender status teams have been shots in the arm, not “transition years.” This is a very odd take. McVay didn’t need transition years. Does anyone think Haurbaugh is gonna need 3 years to rebuild the Chargers? I would argue that our biggest disadvantage very well may be Reid’s familiarity coaching against McD.

It definitely means Harbaugh’s overrated.

Patch something up doesn’t mean what I think you think it means. They managed to play together for half a year before Diggs started to dog it. Lots of guys have horrific relationships and play together in all sports. It doesn’t make the relationship less horrific. Diggs was gonna be here in 23 no matter what so he played. They traded him the second they feasibly could. PS - I’ll admit I 100% misinterpreted your “undeniable” lol

The 2016 Bills were much better than the 2012 Chiefs. This is legit inarguable lol. So the argument is that KC was making the playoffs every year with Reid and built a super team for Mahomes to start in, but the Bills, who make the playoffs every year with Allen, can’t also build a super team? So really, the difference is the teambullding of the Chiefs from 13-18 was far superior to the Bills of 19-24? Is that your opinion?

This is a TOTAL whitewash of history. We started Andre Holmes because McD let Woods walk and traded Sammy Watkins. The 2016 team was much more talented than the 2017 team BECAUSE of McD/Beane and I’m not saying it was a bad idea. But that’s what happened. Andy Reid took over a 2-14 team. And they were established?

The post you quoted had a quoted post talking about his deal with Cinci. In the post. On the same page.

Don’t double down on your “everyone is reading the tea leaves too much about Diggs” take now bro.

I guess because they think Andy would’ve won 3 in Philly eventually, even though even Philly fans are still like “glad that dude is gone.”

You gotta follow along better my dude. I was talking about Jamar Chase.

What changed in KC is he got the greatest QB of his generation, instead of just a good QB. KC was a guaranteed playoff blunder every season until Mahomes walked through that door. Anyway, if you agree Reid doesn’t win 3 or even 1 in Philly, how is he anything but the poster boy for “good coach, but a change in leadership may help your team get over the hump faster?” We are not the Buffalo McDermotts. We are the Bills.

It’s very interesting how you think your opinion, without any inside info, is undeniable, but when 3 separate posters with proven inside info tell you a different story, you just can’t help but disagree, otherwise all your preconceived notions would collapse. Bizzaro.

He actually couldn’t win it ever in Philly. Philly canned him and won a SB before he did. if McD is Andy in this comparison, and we are the Eagles, it’s absolutely in our benefit to fire McD lol I don’t care if McD goes and wins 3 SB’s with another team.

2021? The one where Emmanuel Sanders ran out of gas and had 148 yards through his last 6 games played? He was also inactive for 3 out of the last 4? Yeah, not a strong group.

Let’s trust the speculative opinion of “RoyBatty is alive” instead lmao