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Then it wasn't a perfect run, was it?

Eventually. Allen’s best game wasn’t good enough when Mahomes had two HoF targets to throw to. That 2021 team was more talented than the current Chiefs. And from a football history perspective, if we keep getting cracks at them in the playoffs, we will eventually win. Football adages aside, stranger things have happened. You say things have to go perfect, well sometimes they do. Flacco had a near perfect run once. Nick Foles played at a level he should not have been capable of for his SB run. Peyton Manning was a shell of himself and won one. Maybe Mahomes tweaks something and misses the playoffs and the Ravens knock out the Bengals and then we wax Lamar like we always do and get to the Super Bowl. ***** like this happens lol.

Yeah that’s the thing. Imo that’s what is gonna happen. All this hand wringing about the Chiefs losses in the playoffs is silly. Tomlin lost to the Pats, multiple times. Harbaugh lost to the Pats, multiple times. Same with the rest. The best QB’s of that era still got theirs eventually (except Rivers who was the worst of the best, objectively speaking) At what point does winning a game despite 3 turnovers resulting in 18 points become a coaching success vs a coaching failure?

15-1 15-1 15-1 15-1 Oh no. I have long called that McDermott’s greatest sin and our own personal curse of the Bambino.

They have played and lost to the preeminent dynasty 3/4 runs. Brady and co didn’t make or play in the Super Bowl every year. They were still usually the class of the conference. in 2019, Josh Allen nor the Bills were good enough to make an SB. Hold that against McD if you want but I don’t view that season as a missed opportunity to make a run. Ditto for 17. It’s very funny watching history repeat itself. Folks would argue the Pats and Brady weren’t that good until they were blue in the face. They’d start out 2-2 and folks would call the dynasty over (sounds a lot like the Chiefs last year eh?) Then they’d rattle off a couple more SB runs lol. I’m just ahead of the curve. All the other AFC top tier QB’s are gonna finish their careers with non-stellar playoff records because of Mahomes and Reid. In 15 years, we will all agree that they were beasts in the AFC and an all time NFL dynasty. And that guys like Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson would’ve had a few more titles between them if they didn’t exist. Just like Peyton and co. would have without the Pats. Its living history of the NFL that you are denying lol.

15-1 against non-Brady QB’s. I don’t particularly care about his numbers vs Buffalo. He’s the best. He beats everyone. It’s just the truth. I know everyone anointed the Bengals and Burrow as the Chief Killers but they won exactly one playoff game against them and then lost the next year. It’s no different than the Ravens getting a couple against the Pats over their 20 years of dominance. It’s impossible to be perfect v everybody but the Chiefs, like the Pats before them, are about as close as you can get. We have lost to the guy who beats everyone in the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 trips. All the divisional trip critique is Bills fans upset we aren’t the preeminent dynasty. We don’t have the best coach in football or the best QB in football. Neither did Haurbaugh with Lamar or Flacco before him. Neither did Cowher or Tomlin with Big Ben. Neither did Payton with Brees. Neither did Dungy or Fox or Kubiak with Peyton. They all eventually won one or multiple, but also had their own fair share of playoff defeats at the hands of the Evil Empire. Just like we do currently. I didn’t say anything about being happy. It’s just reality, which folks fail to accept. Weird take.

Rivers and Brees both mostly played under Marty? What? Brees played for 4 years with Marty of his 20 year career. Rivers started exactly one year with Marty. Rodgers played 4 seasons with LaFleur and was drafted in 2005 lol. It really is just Kansas City. 15-1 in the playoffs against QB’s not named Brady. I know this reality is tough to accept because Bills fans thought they were the new Pats. We aren’t. That dream is dead. We are gonna have to scratch and claw and get lucky to get past them in the postseason, just like the Ravens, Texans and Bengals will have to do too. Most of these teams will fail to do so, and most already have.

This is why this argument is so funny. We have the second best QB in football. We aren’t gonna get that 15-3 record. Mahomes already has it, and has some of those wins by beating us lol. Big Ben is 13-10 in the playoffs. Peyton Manning is 14-13. Rivers 5-7. Drew Brees 9-9. Rodgers is 11-10. It’s not because every single one of their coaches was a failure fraud loser lol. It’s because when the best coach and best QB get together, they beat EVERYONE.

Oh sure. If you go for it and don’t get it, you have to make a stop and score a TD. If you kick a FG, you have to make a stop and score a TD. Come on bro.

Team led by HoF QB doesn’t show up in the AFCCG against a far inferior QB, gets mortified and blown out. Check. coming off a bye in the divisional round, team again doesn’t show up, offense scores 10 points and loses to that same inferior QB. Check. Kicks a FG down 8 from the opponents 8 yard line with 2 minutes left, playing against another HoF QB. A truly horrific and indefensible coaching decision. Check. And hey, you’re entitled to that opinion. I just think you’re wrong. And if I have to annihilate 1000 LaFleur’s to prove it, I will!

I don’t think he’s great. I think you think the delta between McD and a league average coach is approaching zero or even negative. I think it’s positive. You have a far higher opinion of “insert random NFL coach” than is warranted. Imo.

This is the same kind of logic that has folks thinking the Bills WR group is gonna be sneaky excellent. Ignorance of the rest of the league is not an excuse for bad football opinions. LaFleur was gifted two MVP seasons from Rodgers and had an NFC Championshop blowout loss where Jimmy G threw 8 passes, and then went to the divisional round off a bye and scored 10 points in a loss. Oh, he also kicked a FG with 2 minutes left down 8 on the opponents 8 yard line in the playoffs. Assuredly lost them the game with one of the worst coaching decisions in history. ”would have almost certainly accomplished more than McDermott” gtfoh. You don’t know Matt LaFleur at all bro.

Lmao that’s because you bozos like to prop up frauds who can’t get out of the NFC with a HoF QB. It’s telling that y’all like to pivot away from arguing bums like LaFleur and McDaniel are better than McDermott once they are challenged. Then you call them “bad arguments” as if anyone defending McDermott said “LOOK AT LAFLEUR” first. Throw this awful diatribe in the trash

We have seen this movie before IRT WR. Why should we trust this 5 dimes is better than 2 quarters approach?

Quote from 2017 trades thread: “Yea but Beane isn't "throwing in the towel" for the season. Don't forget he just signed Anquain Boldin! He actually said that” this is like word for word what Beane said about signing Quintus Cepheus immediately after the draft lol Beane went back to the 2017 well of getting older, slower and worse at WR. Hell yeah

“Blowing a 16 point lead” is always so funny to me. There is no point where we would think a game is over down 16 with Josh Allen at QB. A two score game? Come on. Drought brain still exists for the Houston game where it’s talked about like a 30 point collapse lol.

This is you having a problem with math and statistics in general lol.

I agree with all of that. I have been pretty consistent on this. I think the fire McD for a new voice/shot in the arm people have a point, even if I’m not personally there yet. I admit that eventually may be necessary. I also think McD is one of the better coaches in the NFL. We don’t have to twist ourselves into knots that he’s a loser choke artist fraud POS when it’s not true.

I think questions should be raised after 4 years of having a true franchise guy. I think if he loses a playoff game to any team not named the Chiefs, I would get rid of him. I have said that. McDaniel gets his lunch money taken by McDermott just about everytime they play lol

That was the year they got blown out 42-21, right?

I don’t need him to be my friend lol idc if he’s dull. I like that he gets blood from a stone for a lot of end of roster guys. Dane, Levi, etc etc. I think he’s a good DB coach that has maximized every DB who has been brought in (except Elam who probably is just a bust). I like that when the hit piece came out, the team was 6-6. It would’ve been easy to roll over and die. Part of that may have been players in the lockerroom but I give credit to coaching when a season turns around like that. I like that as a defensive guy, he has clearly clearly improved his 4th down decision making and his aggressiveness in light of having an elite QB. I like that every season he’s been the coach in Buffalo, except for some dog days in 2018, the team has been worth watching. I think in general they are one of the more prepared teams in the NFL. I like that. I think McD is a top 10 coach. I have said that for a while. He’s not the best and he’s not perfect. But he’s pretty good. Somewhere in the Packers boards, there’s a @GoPack808 who is out there saying, “LaFleur couldn’t beat Jimmy G with Rodgers twice, we have no hope of making a Super Bowl with this guy.” The grass is not always greener.

Well Shanny thought he was better off with a Jimmy G so that’s kinda on him, right?

Who won? Lol we won. Y’all are hilarious. Sean McDermott has never lost a playoff game with a QB talent mismatch of Rodgers-Garropolo in his favor ever. Unlike the golden boy LaFleur lol.

McDermott wins one sooner than LaFleur does. Wake me up when McDermott loses to a replacement level QB like Jimmy G in the playoffs

As we all know, allowing 17 points when you have a 13 point lead is insurmountable for an offense to beat. And no, it still wasn’t 17 points in their last 4 drives. You’re still misreading.