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Oh no doubt, that’s why. NFL trade values just make me laugh. They are nonsensical at times. Guy who is a complete bust at OL on the trade block 2 years after being drafted and may never have a season of starter quality OL play? I guess a fifth. Guy who is back to back first team all pro but may only have a few years left? I guess we’ll go one round up on value. I firmly believe that some economist who follows the NFL could team build circles around these dudes. There is quite literally nothing more overrated in this league by almost everybody than draft picks. That’s where you secure a competitive advantage imo. Go the opposite way. Let other teams talk themselves into how a mid round pick is worth their disgruntled all pro and rob them blind.

I think his point was that if Thuney who is borderline one of the best IOL players in his time gets a 4th, getting a fifth for a big slow bust is pretty good

He can even wear #14

My problem isn’t with a 1t helping rush defense. it was overpaying a 1t that they had to threaten to take a pay cut 2 years later.

This brings me back to the drought days where all we needed was a QB, an OL and some pass catchers.

Howie is trying to win 2 more rings. Who is picking anybody over the Eagles in the NFC today?

Okay ”Beane deviated from his normal business practice and paid for it.” Happy?

Pats will give Tee 30M+ or even Chase $40M in about two seconds.

I think it’s more likely our franchise overvalues RB’s. we don’t know if they were ever in the market for the bigger names in FA. We do know they spend far too much draft capital on them.

WR contracts are still gonna go up too.

It’s gonna reset the market in theory because guys are gonna say Saquon got $20M AAV in 2025 so we want X. But he really isn’t getting that. Honestly I think the Eagles may be in the Myles Garrett business. They are opening a lot of space.

Shhh don’t tell people we wasted Josh’s golden cap years on bums like Mario Addison and Shooting Star Loutoto and co. and paying Stef Diggs to not play here no mo. - Brandon Beane

That’s what I was looking for earlier. It sounds like they are more just getting ahead of cap inflation. Not really resetting the market or drastically changing RB value.

I never said it was specific to only Beane. That’s just the way he has done business as a rule with one notable exception. And that exception was a total disaster. Which supports his normal business practices. You are very caught up on if he came out and said “my rule is X”. You know you can have regular business practices and exceptions to them without announcing them through the media, right? Would it surprise you if Micah’s agent asked Bean for a pay raise/contract extension after 2019 and he said “we don’t do extensions prior to the final year of the current one?” It wouldn’t surprise me. It would actually be pretty smart. I actually do think that was something like that was reported somewhere tbh.

He extended Josh after picking up his fifth year option. He was extended going into year 4 of his original 4 year deal. Even if you want to paint that as the ONLY other time Beane has done that, Josh was coming off an MVP caliber year, 13 wins and a conference championship game. And he’s a QB.

Using your “extend Rousseau” logic, how does this change Barkley’s percentage of the cap?

I think the Eagles are gonna make a player trade.

I said what I said. There were lots of folks on here talking about how we didn’t need a #1, we shouldn’t get a player that is going to demand 100 targets and take away from Beasley/Brown etc etc. Time really is a flat circle.

Feel like this was said pre-Diggs trade.

You are forgetting that glorious Stat Loutoto contract where they may have been the only team bidding on him and somehow still dramatically overpaid. No team except the Eagles

It does not if the first read is always open. The key to negating even a great pass rush is getting the ball out quickly to the first read if they are open. It’s how Brady used to pick apart some elite DLs.

So yes and no. Philly’s defense was anything but elite last year. They had a really good draft with some very good contributors out of the gate, completely changed schemes, and their elite talent that they had acquired came online. They also played the game of their lives in the Super Bowl. Honestly. That will probably go down as the best defensive game in Philly franchise history. It is also unlikely to be replicated by this same group. There is an argument that with a killer draft of our own and a complete scheme change and a career year from some of our existing talent (Rousseau and Oliver), we could replicate that. But the key word is “could.” We aren’t gonna change the scheme. So that’s one part that will not happen. The odds of the killer draft AND career years is extremely low. So really, the odds of replicating what the Eagles just did is very very very low. And thus I agree with your conclusion, it ain’t gonna happen. whether or not we get Garrett. The argument for Garrett is, “are we a handful of plays away from beating the Chiefs and could Garrett make some of those plays that may make a difference?” I lean towards yes, but it’s the same argument for DK. Which is why to me, they are coinflip acquisitions. Thinking we are gonna have a first rounder and Garrett is actually impossible.

It’s actually crazy how much Burrow has campaigned for them to re-sign Tee. I wonder how much he truly understands about the business. He probably looks at the Eagles and says, “why can’t we be that” when the biggest problem is the difference in ownership.

Why would we bother with a big money extension on a guy who needs Garrett across from him to be successful? Doesnt that just illustrate how much more important Garrett is?

He hasn’t come out and said it but he has done it once, ever. With Stef. Even Hyde and Poyer who were criminally underpaid had to wait for contract years to get extended. Micah was getting all-pro hype making $6M AAV until 2021. Poyer was making half that until 2020. If you think that doesn’t represent a clear way of doing business in general that Beane deviated from in the case of Diggs, more power to you. I strongly disagree. IMO it was a clear attempt to keep Diggs happy with WR contracts exploding. And when you pay and play with fire with a volatile WR you get burned. Ultimately, I stand by my point it is the singular worst move of Beane’s tenure. A gigantic extension that said player didn’t play a single snap on. It honestly doesn’t get much worse than that.