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Um Josh was second team AP and top 2 in MVP voting when he got extended. there was virtually no backlash to his extension. Comparing that circumstance to Greggs 25 sacks in 4 seasons is apples to orangutans.

Running back the 2024 roster is so on-brand it hurts. jump balls to Mack Hollins in 2025. Josh will probably win MVP again.

Ew

A hilarious offer. Get an elite EDGE with no QB and 1 WR.

Yup. Both him and Edwards do just feel older for whatever reason.

My hot take is that Mitch Morse was a better center than Wood. Wood had the benefit of being one of the few OL players worth a damn on the Bills for a large part of his career, which makes him seem a lot better.

Love this one. lets break it down. is Josh Allen a top 2 QB in football? Yes of course, right? Is Brandon Beane a top 2 GM? Is Sean McDermott a top 2 HC? Is there anyone on the Bills top 2 at their position? Is the entire Bills roster top 2 in talent? The answer to every question other than the one about Josh is clearly “no,” to everyone. So they are legitimately all second-rate, relatively. Except for Josh. Fun stuff!

One of the best Chargers ever? Is he even the best Chargers pass rusher ever? I mean he was a good player once upon a time but that’s a bridge too far.

I think there’s a far better case to going the opposite direction because that’s where the value is. Put another way, is the difference between the average 3rd 4th or 5th round pick and a street FA on a normal deal that great? I would argue it’s not. And the difference in cap savings isn’t all that great either. Yet no street FA would EVER be traded for a pick like that because they obviously place MASSIVE value on the potential of those players. A potential that in the majority of cases will never be realized. That’s the sweet spot to target. You have 32 teams that all have this artificial inflated value placed on nebulous, unrealized potential. Being the one team to deviate and go the opposite direction has you playing in a completely different sandbox by yourself. You’d need an owner who is willing to write checks for sure, but I think it could achieve success. Especially for teams that don’t have “elite” QB’s. You look at a team like the Buccaneers who have a good QB, a good team but probably not top 5 in anything. Are they better off drafting the same guys, letting FAs walk out the door, and just hoping they get lucky? Or are they better off trading 2 firsts for Garrett, a second for DK, a fifth for Deebo, a 4th for Thuney etc etc and simply trying to overwhelm the rest of the league with talent? Sure there may be some cap pain 5 years from now but who cares? Most of their core group will be gone or retired and they will be back on the 6 win carousel regardless.

Oh no doubt, that’s why. NFL trade values just make me laugh. They are nonsensical at times. Guy who is a complete bust at OL on the trade block 2 years after being drafted and may never have a season of starter quality OL play? I guess a fifth. Guy who is back to back first team all pro but may only have a few years left? I guess we’ll go one round up on value. I firmly believe that some economist who follows the NFL could team build circles around these dudes. There is quite literally nothing more overrated in this league by almost everybody than draft picks. That’s where you secure a competitive advantage imo. Go the opposite way. Let other teams talk themselves into how a mid round pick is worth their disgruntled all pro and rob them blind.

I think his point was that if Thuney who is borderline one of the best IOL players in his time gets a 4th, getting a fifth for a big slow bust is pretty good

He can even wear #14

My problem isn’t with a 1t helping rush defense. it was overpaying a 1t that they had to threaten to take a pay cut 2 years later.

This brings me back to the drought days where all we needed was a QB, an OL and some pass catchers.

Howie is trying to win 2 more rings. Who is picking anybody over the Eagles in the NFC today?

Okay ”Beane deviated from his normal business practice and paid for it.” Happy?

Pats will give Tee 30M+ or even Chase $40M in about two seconds.

I think it’s more likely our franchise overvalues RB’s. we don’t know if they were ever in the market for the bigger names in FA. We do know they spend far too much draft capital on them.

WR contracts are still gonna go up too.

It’s gonna reset the market in theory because guys are gonna say Saquon got $20M AAV in 2025 so we want X. But he really isn’t getting that. Honestly I think the Eagles may be in the Myles Garrett business. They are opening a lot of space.

Shhh don’t tell people we wasted Josh’s golden cap years on bums like Mario Addison and Shooting Star Loutoto and co. and paying Stef Diggs to not play here no mo. - Brandon Beane

That’s what I was looking for earlier. It sounds like they are more just getting ahead of cap inflation. Not really resetting the market or drastically changing RB value.

I never said it was specific to only Beane. That’s just the way he has done business as a rule with one notable exception. And that exception was a total disaster. Which supports his normal business practices. You are very caught up on if he came out and said “my rule is X”. You know you can have regular business practices and exceptions to them without announcing them through the media, right? Would it surprise you if Micah’s agent asked Bean for a pay raise/contract extension after 2019 and he said “we don’t do extensions prior to the final year of the current one?” It wouldn’t surprise me. It would actually be pretty smart. I actually do think that was something like that was reported somewhere tbh.

He extended Josh after picking up his fifth year option. He was extended going into year 4 of his original 4 year deal. Even if you want to paint that as the ONLY other time Beane has done that, Josh was coming off an MVP caliber year, 13 wins and a conference championship game. And he’s a QB.

Using your “extend Rousseau” logic, how does this change Barkley’s percentage of the cap?