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Huh? The Comp pick system is not designed to help bad or good teams. It’s designed to help teams who lose good players to FAs. And it’s working as intended.

No your point is they were bad to be good later. But they aren’t. They just might be. That’s hope. They have been bad and they are still bad. They are in the bottom half of teams in the NFL without many appreciable differences from the other crappy teams. They just might not be. That’s selling hope. You also haven’t pointed to when this has resulted in a Super Bowl win in the modern NFL, but that is your standard for why paying a guy like Cousins is silly.

Yeah your argument comes down to “hope” but with really no backing. WFT’s chances of winning a Super Bowl aren’t really any higher than any of the other mediocre teams in the NFL, they just have a few more lotto tickets. That’s not worth much of anything. It is the way to keep the fans dreams alive as you continue to suck over and over and over again.

Is it? Isn’t your whole argument, “my goal is to win a Super Bowl?” Out of the last 15 Superbowls, which teams jettisoned a good NFL starting QB and got worse to get good enough to win a Super Bowl? Peyton Manning I guess?

17-31 since letting the man out of the building. Numbers don’t lie

This is the crux. It’s argued that overpaying for a let’s say Alex Smith tier QB to be competitive is somehow bad. KC parlayed a competitive era with Smith into two SB appearances and one win. The Ravens had money tied up with Flacco and won a decent amount of games AND found an MVP QB. The difference between the “good” franchises and the trash ones is that they don’t have to have a great QB to be good teams. That’s why Washington sucks and has sucked forever. That’s why the Bills pre-Marrone sucked. The Pats had signed Bledsoe to a 10 year $100M contract and were competitive before Brady ever stepped on the field. If the 49ers walk from Jimmy G and win a Super Bowl in 2 years with one of the rookies or acquire an upgrade at QB, no one is going to say “man what a waste those Jimmy G years were.” Incredibly, QB’s tend to have more success when they are inserted on a good team with a strong winning culture instead of some bottom feeder with a million draft picks and a horrific culture. It’s why Sam Darnold’s career is in jeopardy. The Vikings have been way better than WFT since gaining Cousins. Case Keenum was a mirage, as evidenced by the fact that he eventually went to WFT and went 1-7 as a starter. A truly hilarious argument.

I mean, the Chiefs you could argue overpaid for Alex Smith for YEARS, played competitively for all of them, then found their franchise top 6 QB and then won a SB and went to two. You are arguing that every team without a franchise QB is better off bottoming out for that guy, and the history of the league tells us that’s not true. The Seahawks were competitive pre-Wilson. The Pats were competitive pre-Brady. The Steelers were competitive pre-Big Ben. The BILLS were competitive and a playoff team Pre-Allen

This is what you and @Alphadawg7 don’t seem to understand. Being overpaid does not mean “we are better off letting you walk.” Half of the players in the NFL are overpaid. 10 years ago, we “overpaid” for Mario Williams. He was our best defensive player and an All-Pro. That’s Free Agency. That’s the NFL. The NFL has a fixed number of wins possible and every year, 31 other teams are trying to steal yours. If you let a talented player walk at the most important position, and you fail to adequately replace him 4 years later, with multiple losing seasons, YOU FAILED.

There’s also this weird “patient” view when it comes to other franchises. Like the WFT is just slowly rising up after letting Kirk walk, instead of firing their GM, firing their HC a year later, drafting a first round QB and cutting him. GM’s and HC’s don’t get 10 years. They aren’t taking this weird long view.

They have had Alex Smith’s corpse on the roster with a massive cap hit..... Breaking, losing 13 games and everyone getting fired is just a rebuild planned out by all the dudes who got fired.

For who? Certainly not the previous FO and HC who thought letting Cousins walk was a “smart” move.

Washington has drafted one QB since losing Cousins.

Washington has won 17 games in 3 seasons. Let’s not go crazy about their “trajectory.”

This is the first I’ve heard of a player under contract being a hole but it IS the off-season on TBD

7 round swaps lol

Didn’t he threaten the Pegulas on their personal cell #?

What’s worse is your pretension that it’s profound.

I think Garrett is still worse lol This is a horrible post.

Could you point to specifically which stat correlates there? There’s a lot on that page.

“Many people are saying I’m doing a great job” vibes on this post. Baker gets crushed when he acts like a little *****. Brady gets a pass because he is the best player in the world. Lebron gets a pass when Carmelo Anthony doesn’t.

IMO the Dallas Cowboys are a prime example of how much a baseline of decent coaching are required in the NFL. I thought McCarthy was going to right the ship a bit but Dak got hurt. And McCarthy isn’t even a really good coach, but that’s how just how horrific Garrett was in 2019. He could teach a Master Class on getting the least possible out of your players.

As many of you may or may not know, one of the stats that exist in the NBA is VORP or Value over Replacement Player. This stat aims to evaluate how much better a player is than a replacement level at that position. And in the NBA, such a replacement level would be a bench body or player on a minimum contract. Even though a stat like this would be admittedly limited in a less analytically driven league like the NFL, I believe that a position specific calculation could be achieved in the NFL. However, you would have to first define a “replacement level” player which would likely have a negative impact on applicability. Is a stat like this possible in the NFL? The utility would be obvious, we could finally have statistical proof that running backs ARE a dime a dozen, and perhaps even delineate the minimum level of QB play necessary to compete for championships, breaking through the Kirk Cousins vs Ryan Tannehill level of play. Any thoughts on something like this?

It always comes back to the Bills game. Lol. It’s one game.

Rivers deserved to get paid.

I mean we have a draft coming up as well. Unfortunately, this is life in the NFL. You can’t sign great FA’s at every position.