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You got it wrong. The Pegulas spent 2014-2016 propping Whaley up as a good GM. Because he was employed by them. And they started sowing misinformation about the Hughes trade and the 2013 draft etc.

Nix and Whaley were like polar opposites. Nix drafted better players (he also had higher picks) but Whaley found more sleepers and made better FA/pro personnel decisions. Theoretically, together, they should have been really good. Oh well.

Because you give credit for things that Whaley didn’t do in an effort to prop him I’d say giving Whaley credit for picking Dareus, Gilmore, Searcy, Glenn, AW and Bradham is leaning heavily on “making stuff up.” Whaley wasn’t the worst GM of all time. He was just another kinda crappy one. He did some good things. He had some really solid picks for contributors. He never drafted a ProBowler, he stopped attempting to find a QB, and ultimately, he was a terrible leader who couldn’t get along with any of his HC’s (who also deserve blame).

Doug Whaley was extended in 2015 and fired after 2016. Not sure what you’re trying to say.

Do you wanna talk revisionist? Nobody in 2011 was talking about what DOUG WHALEY thought. You are giving him relevance after the fact because he was eventually made GM. Do you know a single thing about what picks our current assistant GM deserves credit for? Or are you gonna say he’s the one who picked Josh Allen in 5 years if Beane leaves and he gets promoted?

Biscuit’s point actually had a nugget of truth, he just got it backwards. From 2014-2016, the official line was every good move was Whaley’s and every bad move was Nix’s. Jerry Hughes was actually acquired before Nix stepped down but PSE said it was a Whaley move. All while telling us the 2013 draft and EJ were all Nix.

You got suckered by the Pegula propaganda machine. They changed history in front of your very eyes.

Textbook irony. “People are saying Whaley trading for McCoy was a Nix move!!!” Go back to playing with dolls.

And some other guys scouted Dareus and Gilmore. Nix was the one who drafted all of them.

Lol it’s been the opposite for the last decade and it’s embarrassing you’d pretend otherwise.

Being the right hand man doesn’t mean you get credit for your bosses’ work. Nix came in with a edict to get some SEC and southern boys. He then drafted Dareus, AW, Glenn, Gilmore, Bradham, Searcy. All of whom were high level starters on that 2014 team. He also signed Mario Williams.

The 2014 team was built by Nix. And would have been a playoff team if Whaley’s boy EJ never started.

Patrick Mahomes won MVP his 2nd year and a Super Bowl in his 3rd. Tick tock.

Exactly. That’s a good thing. I want players who are borderline late 1st early 2nd round grades at 54. That’s tremendous value. That may not happen, but in a deep WR class like this it easily could. It’s less likely to happen to a position like OT, or LB, IMO.

I’m not saying the WR will for sure be BPA at 54. In fact, I very clearly said otherwise. How could I know who is available at 54 when the draft hasn’t even happened yet? I just want BPA. I don’t care if we just traded for a WR, if it’s a WR, you take him. I don’t care if it’s a RB, DB, OT, anything. You take the BPA. It’s that simple.

This is where we start getting silly Doc. Regardless of the subjectivity of player evaluations, our scouting department has spent 2-3 years evaluating some of these players and crafting their grades. And then they make their board. At the final hour, they don’t throw their hands up and call the draft a crap shoot and then take whoever. If the Bills pass on a 2nd round grade player to take a 3rd round grade player at a position of need, they are morons. BPA means stick to your board, which is for all intents and purposes, a master list.

Seeing as everyone has called this the deepest WR draft possibly ever, I’d say it’s also more likely BPA is WR than any other draft possibly ever. Now there’s 21 other positions so it’s obviously no guarantee. If BPA is a DB, go get him, I don’t really care.

I wouldn’t complain one bit if one of Duke, McK or Foster get cut in favor of a 2nd round WR who outperfoms them. Sure we will have used a first and second on WR. So what? If we draft an OT, then we used a second two years in a row at that position. If we draft an RB, then we have spent a 2nd and 3rd in that timespan. An LB? 1st and 2nd. The draft is about building the best roster over the long game. The strategy is not, “we drafted a LB high last year so we can’t do that this year.” That’s need based drafting. That’s how you take inferior players and don’t accumulate winning talent.

Seeing as we just exited the late first, I doubt there’s anyone we’re truly enamored with around there.

More importantly, they will allow us to not have to reach for a WR in the first two rounds next season and possibly even 2022 if we DO need one. That’s why BPA is the best strategy and Beane deserves a ton of credit for building a well-developed roster where we have that luxury.

There is no position on this team that a rookie will be getting >500 snaps barring injuring. It has nothing to do with “being in trouble.” It has everything to do with “we shouldn’t draft BPA because everyone will definitely be healthy all year and there’s no reason to have a quality player in the wings.” The crux of the whole discussion is that you will have early 2nd round grade players in the middle 2nd and third rounds at WR in this draft. That’s a value you simply cannot pass with the 22nd pick in the second round. If there’s a LB or RB that Beane ranks higher at our pick, then that’s the guy I want. But if the BPA is a WR, you don’t reach for a DE or OT or whatever.

Maybe Brown battles a hammy all year and he gets a ton of playing time this year. Maybe Diggs breaks his arm and misses 7 weeks. It’s silly to pretend any unit is set at this point.

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Jarvis Landry was the 12th WR taken in 2014 and put up 758 yards as a rookie.