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    Baker Mayfield says goodbye to Cleveland (update - Traded to Panthers)

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    5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

     

    He escalated everything now.

     

    Whatever team he goes to he will be a distraction, no debate about that.  Former #1 pick Heisman trophy winner.  Gugny is correct, he should have kept his mouth shut.  That tweet will end up costing the Borwns and himself a lot.  And the Browns FO is incredibly inept with how they handled this.

    Bro they escalated it first by going for Watson and being sketchy.

     

    Eff the Browns. They deserve another 15 years of being a poverty franchise. 

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    It's easy now to see how good teams have an advantage in free agency

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    11 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:


    Right.  Isn’t it a good feeling that we really don’t “need” to go out and spend a ton of cash in FA?  Our biggest needs now, arguably, are CB, WR and NT (maybe lesser so after Tim Settle signing?).  Nice to be able to swing for the fences with every one of our picks in the draft.  

    We do “need” to go out and spend money. We do not have an edge rusher on the roster. 
     

    How do you swing for the fences with a draft pick?

    19 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

    I'm not arguing that part. Just simply saying Saffold is definitely an upgrade there. Just because they haven't signed Chandler Jones or Gronk, Kirk etc does not mean Saffold is not an upgrade. 

    I don’t hate the signing. I think the OP is insane.

    It's easy now to see how good teams have an advantage in free agency

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    3 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

    Saffold is for sure an upgrade at the position and 34 he's got a few years left, especially looking at the shape he is keeping himself in. I don't see how one can argue he is definitely a short term upgrade at the position

     

    Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said:


    What the hell do you want?  JC Jackson for the vet minimum?  Chandler Jones to play for unlimited wings?  Jesus!  When you have very little cap room, a very good roster, and quite of few core players coming up soon for new contracts….you add value depth pieces in free agency.  I don’t get what’s so hard to comprehend.  Did you not learn math ever?

    Incredible advantage in FA. Just stupendous. We get some more geriatric patients and the honor to cut them their last check before they retire, unlike the Bears or the Jets.

     

    I mean, this is why you become a contender. 

    It's easy now to see how good teams have an advantage in free agency

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    4 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

     


    If you read the entire OP, it actually makes sense.  He’s mainly referring to those FAs (such as Saffold/Landry) who are in the “twilight of their careers,” but still have a couple good playing years left in them.  They already have had 2 or more good contracts, so $ may be less important to them than winning.

     

    Take a guy like Christian Kirk who could have probably signed a 8-9 million dollar/year deal in Buffalo and have a legit shot to win a chip.  Now he’ll be making ~17 million/year playing for the Jags 🤢🤮

     

    It depends on the FA and where they are with their careers, IMO.

    We haven’t even acquired Landry and Saffold is 1000 years old, so what the ***** are we even talking about? Saffold doesn’t want to end his career on the Jets? That’s the big win?

    It's easy now to see how good teams have an advantage in free agency

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    21 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:


    I mean Alex Cappa, who many consider to be in the same “range” as Norwell in terms of FA value just signed a 4 year/40 million contract.  Chandler is projected to make ~16.5 million/year.  I’ve seen the salary cap really isn’t a thing argument, but where do you see $$ like this coming from?  Not trying to be snarky.  I’m just wondering why you think these type of deals are achievable.

    Are we allowed to say that the OP was completely inane then about how Buffalo is this sudden FA destination that can’t afford FA’s?

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    Who's on everyone's wish list

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    49 minutes ago, dje85 said:

    Realistic or wish?

     

    Wish Davante Adams, JC Jackson, Chandler Jones, Haasan Reddick, and Brandon Sherff. 

     

    Realistic: Resign our guys go into the draft without glaring holes on the roster.

    Your realistic hope is so sad. What’s your pessimistic outcome? The NFL folds?

    Amari Cooper traded to Browns

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    50 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


     

    Even if he bounces back - he is what - the 3rd best QB in the division and now maybe the 8-9 best QB in the AFC?  That is assuming some of the younger QBs don’t jump over him.  You could do worse, but only slightly in the AFC.

     

    He is in a TE-centric offense of Stefanski that has had a number of good WRs over the years in Minnesota and Cleveland and every time the WRs complain because of the offense.

     

    Now they get a classic complainer at WR and have lost their top 2 and people expect Baker to become something he has never been.

     

    The Browns will win games, but they will do it on the strength of running and TE play.  The QB and the WRs are essentially irrelevant in that scheme.

    Okay they should get rid of Baker and go be the Jets. Good plan.

    Amari Cooper traded to Browns

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    1 hour ago, BobbyC81 said:

    Interesting that, at the time, Gruden and his Raider friends were considered dumb by some for trading away both Mack & Cooper.  The teams that got them gave them huge contracts, went nowhere with them, and now both get traded for mediocre returns.

     

    Now, they seem like the Sammy Watkins trade for Buffalo.  Get rid of a high priced guy who isn’t helping you win before he asks for a bigger new contract.

    Quick, what was the records of the teams that traded for Mack and Cooper compared to the Raiders record over that span?

    Amari Cooper traded to Browns

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    5 minutes ago, SCBills said:


    Surely you understand what the poster is saying, no?

     

    Look at the years WR’s have with Allen vs the years WR’s have with Baker. 
     

    Allen elevates everyone he plays with.  
     

    Baker, the opposite.  

    It was just a bad point.

     

    Baker had a down year last year but is effectively on a 1 year deal this year. If he bounces back, you could do a lot worse than Baker. Bills fans should know this.

    Amari Cooper traded to Browns

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    2 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

    Browns every offseason focus on bringing in Receiver after Receiver , yet it always just seems to me that it becomes more evident they need to move on from Baker. 

    We have brought in new receivers every year, should we move on from Josh?

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    Amari Cooper traded to Browns

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    2 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

    True, you can get a Listenbee in the 6th, or even another bust of a WR in the first, but it wouldn’t make sense for the Bills to trade for Amari given what he makes, Diggs makes, and Davis is soon to make.

    Oh absolutely agree for the Bills it didn’t make much sense. For the Browns, it makes complete sense.

    Amari Cooper traded to Browns

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    1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said:

    Too many cost-controlled, fast WRs coming out in this draft to justify trading for Cooper and that salary.

    Yes, as well all know, most WR’s drafted end up having 7 thousand receiving yards in 8 years. Kolby Listenbee, for example.

    Cowboys release Robert Foster

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    35 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

    The thing is, Foster was not even very productive at Alabama. He only had 35 receptions for 389 yards in 4 seasons. To be fair, there were some injuries involved but Foster never cracked to starting lineup.

     

    This is not to say that college coaches do not make mistakes. Ohio State looked rather stupid by not playing Jameson Williams, thus losing him to Alabama where he flourished. Would Nick Saban make this sort of dumb mistake? I think not.

     

    Now, is Foster lightning fast? Yes of course but he is the prototype one trick pony. Think Lee Evans with FAR less moves (and he too was a one trick pony speedster).  As a proud Crimson Tide Fan I wish Foster well, but would prefer a receiver who is more able to be consistently open. 

     

    Jmo Bro. 

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/robert-foster-1.html

     

    I hope @Jauronimofinds someone that loves him as much as @Bill from NYC loves Nick Saban and Alabama football.

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