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16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
LOL you just keep cowering in the corner if you want. If you don't think just game planning and having Tom Brady on the field compared to a totally unproven
rookie QB is equal we have nothing more to discuss. It's not even close.
You think Brady and a rookie QB are equal??
Stidham isn’t a rookie btw.
23 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:Yeah but thats not so much them beating us as it us giving it to them.
Score read 16-10 Pats. That’s getting beat.
I would put a hefty amount of money on us splitting the season series with the Pats this year.
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Just now, YattaOkasan said:
I underlined the full offseason cause I disagree with this. Its def not a full typical offseason. Stidham will not get to throw to these guys as the starter until TC. Also I am not conviced they run the same system as last year because Stidham is not TB. I just dont see them as being able to have a good passing game at all.
we put up a lot of TOs in that game. I think thats what beat us and not that stat line.
That’s my point
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It was basically a one year olive branch for Saints fans.
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Just now, ColoradoBills said:
It was the blocked punt for a TD that was a difference in that game. The Bills played an even game and it had more to do with "Can we ever beat
BB and TB" syndrome than anything else.
Brady didn’t block that punt. So, I’m utterly confident that Stidham is capable of putting up that statline above, and we know that statline can be good enough to beat us.
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12 minutes ago, MJS said:
One reason why their defenses were top 10 in preventing scores IS Brady and the offense. They led sustained, clock eating drives regularly, didn't turn the ball over, and basically never put their defense in bad positions. That goes a long way.
Now, obviously Belichick is a great coach and he knows how to get the most out of his defensive players. But I think their points given up stat is just a little skewed because of how solid their offense has been with Tom Brady.
Brady played the worst game of the year last year against the Bills, 18-39 for 150 and INT. We still got held to 10 and we still lost.
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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Memo to NFL players: if you're gonna keep a gun around the house, make sure your wife takes a gun safety course.
That just means they may shoot you on purpose
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8 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
Here's what I did find, source material. DHS acting secretary Chad Wolf released a statement on the travel restrictions on March 11.
And then the white house issued their official proclamation.
Based on those two official releases, it would seem that the quote you want to say is a lie was information provided to Trump by DHS on how they planned to implement his proclamation. He seemingly either dumbed 'enhanced screening' down to 'testing' or he didn't understand the scope of the screening being implemented. I think, at worst, the statement you're clinging to was made out of ignorance, but it's very likely he just used his own terminology instead of the official language out of brevity.
Hokie AND Hapless in PPP? Am I hallucinating???
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7 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said:
As a general observation, the quality of the defenses they face in 2020 is about the same based on last year's DVOA rankings. There is a 1 for 1 swap in similar team defenses. SF for Bal, LAR for Phi, Sea for Dal, LAC for Cle, Ari for Was, Oak for Cin, Pit, Ten and Den remain.
It was the D that had the easier time with last year's schedule and will face a tougher one this year. They faced a handful of QBs soon to be replaced. I think the offense needs to score 400+ points to get 10+ wins and they are primed to do just that. All this is to say that the schedule for 2020 does not seem so daunting to me and they should be the AFCE team best equipped to handle it.
Exactly. Facing Dalton, Eli, and Mariota isn’t gonna happen this year.
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36 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:
The rest of the division plays em too guys.
This whole schedule is so much tougher narrative is overblown imo. Again , there's so much roster change (for other teams) and injuries , that it's just unpredictable.
Eh. 6 of the opponents the Bills played last year picked in the top 11. Two of them were divisional opponents, so that’s 8 games. We went 6-2 against those teams. I don’t think it’s crazy to suggest that number will likely be lower next year.
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5 minutes ago, MJS said:
These are unprecedented times. Nobody quite knows how the Pats will do.
This is nothing like 2008 when they came off an undefeated season with a loaded roster and played an extremely easy schedule. It was Cassel's 4th season in NE and all he had to do was hold the reigns and not screw everything up. The AFC East schedule was so easy that the Miami Dolphins went from a 1 win team to an 11 win team. And then the next year they went back to a sub .500 team (too bad the Bills couldn't capitalize on that).
They have basically no talent on offense. They lost three good starters on defense. But, they have Bill Belichick and you know he already has cameras in McDermott's bedroom, along with all the other coaches around the NFL. And he doesn't have to eat or sleep because he sold his soul and is being sustained by the powers of darkness.
We'll just see how it goes.
I’m more concerned that one of the Pats 6 wins or 9 wins or 4 wins comes against the Bills. Not concerned about them winning the divison as much as I am that they’ll beat us.
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10 minutes ago, Mango said:
I was more responding to the question as to how could the pats secondary be rated higher. The Bills are a very good unit without a lot of very good individuals. Based on the “metrics” of the rankings. It’s basically starting 5 with plus flex player. The Pats are loaded in the secondary. The Bills have one great CB, a very good safety tandem, and the rest are meh-ish. It makes them a high level unit but not really close to be ranked over NE. Who had 6 players in the top 50 for all DB’s regardless of position in the backfield.
Simply, I would rate NE’s secondary well above Buffalo’s right now based on both top end talent and depth. I’m not arguing that as a unit they are bad.
Ah, I was confused because you kept saying mediocre.
Totally agree. To surpass the Pats’ secondary, we simply need higher level of play from the role players.
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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
If we don't generally #testtraceisolate, then unless we achieve close to 100% public mask wearing, the chances of keeping the disease burden from overwhelming hospitals again seem slim.
Or what is your notion on how one achieves that latter?
I think the large number of asymptomatic infected people arise in specific circumstances - places where large numbers of people are regularly forced into close contact such as meat packing plants, prisons, cruise ships etc.
The whole point of "flatten the curve" from an epidemiologist viewpoint (and I am not an epidemiologist though I have worked with same on occasion) is to buy time to increase testing and put together a contact-tracing mechanism, while lowering the # cases to the point where #testtraceisolate is feasible. After Wuhan, China appears able to have done this. Singapore seems to have done this - ID'd an outbreak and contained. S. Korea seems to have done this with several surges. Several European nations will be giving their try.
It's the same disease here, are you saying we are somehow less capable, more deficient and more sociologically challenged than democracies such as S. Korea, Taiwan etc?
That may be a rhetorical question fair warning I'm not likely to hang here.
From an epidemiological viewpoint, reopening should occur when the number of cases have subsided and testing/contact tracing capabilities have been built to the point where #testtraceisolate is possible.
I do not believe the first part. Didn’t this whole saga begin with everyone running around that hospitals were gonna overflow and we would be the next Italy? Hospitals across the country are effectively at half census or were at one point. The hospitals themselves are reopening elective surgeries.
To your second, this is not an epidemiological experiment. A judgement call must be made between the economy/people’s livelihoods and 100% by the book disease control.
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5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
No. "Flattening the curve" is a hail-Mary desperation play when an epidemic has escaped containment and mitigation is the only option.
As society reopens, the next step SHOULD be to systematically #testtraceisolate to ring-fence infection clusters. The point of "flattening the curve" initially is to lower the number of infections to the point where #testtraceisolate is possible
As well, take other reproduction-number lowering actions like requiring people to wear masks at work, on public transportation, and in stores, and asking them to so in public especially in situations where distance can't be maintained. Ask people who can do so to continue to work at home and minimize business travel.Sure, I’m all good with that. But as you said, we start to reopen.
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Just now, JetsFan20 said:
One guy holding out for a contract is not the same as the players going on strike like some suggested.The players going on strike to protest a 50% paycut because the billionaire owners aren’t making as much money won’t have the effect you think it will.
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3 minutes ago, JetsFan20 said:
Sorry, but it would be a terrible look for the players to make a fuss on this. Folks are risking their lives going to work for minimum wage right now.
Plus it’s not like it’s cash going back into owners pockets
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Free Agency just happened. Clowney is siting out waiting for $20M per year. This isn’t a big deal for anyone.
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15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
My end goal is getting to a basic reproduction number that doesn't overwhelm the healthcare system. No bueno to HCW or to patients.
That’s what flattening the curve is for. What is the next step?
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Daboll is certainly under more scrutiny because we have now finally given him the tools to produce a productive offense. If he isn't top half of the league he will be replaced (and should be). If he is top 10 he will get a Head Coach job (and probably deservedly). The window for him still being with the Bills as OC in 2021 is quite a narrow one IMO. It is somewhere between 11th and 17th best offense in the NFL and Josh taking another step.
Being the OC who “fixed” Josh Allen, a super polarizing QB prospect, would be quite the feather.
I could see the Chargers take a good long look at him this offseason once they get an excuse to jettison Lynn.
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2 minutes ago, Kemp said:
Flattening a curve is merely the first step. It can still go up again and even if it flattens, if it doesn't go down, it's not mission accomplished.
The number of flu cases go up every year. And we have flu vaccines. I’m curious what end goal you have in mind?
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1 hour ago, Kemp said:
If you flatten the curve at 500 deaths a day forever, that's mission accomplished?
What?
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4 hours ago, Jauronimo said:
He fumbled another punt return against New England in 2014 on MNF.
https://fansided.com/2015/11/23/bills-leodis-mckelvin-fumbles-return-video/
Then there was the KC game.
And then
We lost, 22-9 of course.
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On 5/5/2020 at 12:31 PM, dneveu said:
That or paying him too much to begin with. We drafted 1 QB while Fitz was here - Levi Brown.
I wonder why this team never made the playoffs.
We also drafted 1 QB after EJ until McD got here.
Rocket science it is not.
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30 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Screw the national media!!!
Oh wait....what page is everyone on? Has the script gone to re-write??
The usual suspects of "we don't get any respect" and "everyone is out to get the Bills" are conspicuously absent from this thread.
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3 hours ago, Mango said:
The Bills as an overall team had the 5th lowest QBR in the league defensively. But to @thebandit27 point below. Only 1 other player not on the Patriots from the AFCE make the top 40, and you get to 48 before you find Maulett from the NYJ.
The Bills lack db depth. Wallace has been inconsistant, Johnson needs to stay healthy. Gaines needs to stay healthy. Norman needs to return to form. If they all end up on the positive side of "what if" then they will be a great unit. If they don't they will still be a single star player and a bunch of meh enhanced by a solid DC/HC combo.
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White is a superstar. Poyer and Hyde are stars. Our secondary was darn good last year. Where is this mediocre stuff even coming from? Wallace played a huge chunk of last season and they were really really good. Why do they need to Norman to return to All-Pro form to achieve that again? What am I missing?
How many secondaries in the NFL pound for pound would you call better than ours? Not many.
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6 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
So, I’ve been posting this in numerous threads for a few months. I know there are some people with me on it and some that think it’s crazy. The Pats are a bad team. They will win 6 games (and that’s with the greatest coach ever). Someone please make a case as to why they are a threat in the division? Please don’t use some lame reason like, “because they are king’s until they are not” or “because they are always good.” Give FOOTBALL reasoning as to why they are good!!
My reasoning as to why they are bad is that they have no talent on offense. Their OL is pretty good but lost their legendary coach. They have, at best, a massive question mark at QB. At worst, they have the worst QB situation in the league. The Pats likely have the worst set of skill players in the NFL as well. Some people are saying that they are going to run the ball and play defense. Their backs aren’t good and they will be forced to run against loaded boxes because no one fears their passing game. How does this team generate offense?!? Please, someone, tell me...
The secondary is really good. The pass rush isn’t. They lost Collins and Van Noy this offseason as well as Danny Shelton. That’s 3 starters in their front 7. That defense is no longer elite (although it could still be a top 10ish unit).
Add that to, statistically, the hardest schedule in the NFL and explain to me what I’m missing? Again, no “because they always are” responses. This team has different players and coaches. I’m asking why THIS team is still a threat? https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/NE
I’m hoping that this thread inspires some thoughtful conversation. I suspect that the trauma of 20 years of being the nail has people living in fear for no reason. They will hide behind “because Belichick” because that’s the ONLY thing to stand behind. I’m not sure how many games, against that schedule, a great coach is good for? I think that they win 6 because of Belichick. That’s a 4 win team otherwise IMO. I’d love to hear a real football argument those as to why they can win?
Good football team? I don’t know about that. No guarantee the Bills stomp them twice this season? Absolutely.
Convince me that the 2020 Pats are good...
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Did Tom Brady put up 4000 yards and 24 TD’s against the Bills last year? Wow.