FireChans
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29 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:
Doesn’t matter, that’s not natural, clearly the body doesn’t want you reproducing anymore if you can’t get it up. Doesn’t seem to me we should be playing god and granting boners so Willy nilly…
Im all for informed choice and term limits, however an outright ban is absolutely archaic and if Clarence Thomas gets his way we’ll be living under Shariah Law by the new year.
Noted Muslim…. Clarence Thomas….
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2 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:
Because it's clear he has a list to complete. I'm wondering how far back he intends to turn the clock. When was rape legal?
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.
“I’m just acting ######ed to make fun of you!”
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3 minutes ago, Andy1 said:
I’m still wondering what the penalties will be for abortion or attempted abortion in states where it is outlawed and then, logically considered murder. In Texas, convicted murders get 5-99 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000. Now since no God fearing republican wants to be seen as soft on crime, I would think that the poor girl or young woman (who is unable or cannot afford to travel to another state) convicted of getting an abortion would get at least 10 - 20 years in prison for committing murder of the embryo/fetus. Murder of embryo is equal to murder of a person. Are all you guys who support this ruling on board with this? This is where we are heading as a country. I’m sure the prison industry is celebrating.
Lmao.
”I just invented an entirely hypothetical scenario based on nothing, HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THESE THING IN MY IMAGINATION!”
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2 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:
Your employer is not violating your bodily autonomy. If you want to selfishly not get vaccinated and instead benefit from the herd immunity granted by braver folks, nobody is making you do anything. But people who took that "risk" for the benefit of themselves and those around them... we are judging the hell out of you. No employer or anyone else in an at-will employment situation owes you anything. Just as you're free to smoke weed, but if your employer isn't cool with that, you run the risk of unemployment.
These are not the same things.
What about the child grooming?
Ok so just to be clear.
If abortion was legal, but if your employer found out you had one and fired you, and then you weren’t allowed to get on an airplane, that’s okay?
Abortion is legal, but I can ask them if they’ve had one and then not hire them on the basis of that fact and fire them if they lie?
We may actually save the discourse with this discussion!
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1 hour ago, nedboy7 said:
You serious? What an argument.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), for one, allowed that a national abortion ban was “possible” after the initial leak of the Supreme Court’s draft decision. Last week, Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) he would back a federal ban because “any of us that believe this is wrong, it’s wrong, period.”
House Republican leaders — including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Republican Study Committee chair Jim Banks, and Judiciary ranking member Jim Jordan — are already lining up to support legislation that would impose a nationwide ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy
Republicans have also indicated that they plan to reintroduce the “Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act” if they recapture the House majority. That bill would put in place requirements for the care of infants born after failed, late-term abortions and could send doctors to prison if they fail to comply. Reproductive rights and physician groups have previously opposed the legislation on the basis that it could criminalize doctors and is duplicative of existing laws that already support infants in these very rare cases.
You weirdos are even against contraception. That's next.
What you think of the Supreme Court wanting to go after gay marriage next.
I think that a federal ban on abortion or gay marriage would be unconstitutional. But thanks for playing.
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47 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
cute.
“Having been given this second chance for Life, we must not rest and must not relent until the sanctity of life is restored to the center of American law in every state in the land,” Vice President Mike Pence said in a statement praising the court’s decision on Friday.
so what you saying exactly?
Mike Pence doesn't work in the federal government anymore. It was a whole big thing, you may have head about it.
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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:
There is no all encompassing vaccine mandate. Restrictions are not the same as force. A person who doesn't get vaccinated can't be criminally prosecuted.
Well that's an interesting compromise on your "absolute right to body autonomy" take.
Do you mind elaborating? Coercion to violate body autonomy is okay, but not force? Is the line at criminal charges? "Get the vaccine or you're fired," is respectful to body autonomy?
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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I don't believe abortion should be illegal in every state, but I recognize that it is strictly a state's rights issue. I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of the state regulating a medical procedure. I'm not angry at the Supreme Court. I will inevitably be angry when certain states strip some of their citizens of bodily autonomy. Not everyone has the resources necessary to leave their state. I honestly do expect the crime rate in those states to explode in about 20 years, there are studies that show Roe v Wade coincided with a decreased crime rate. Which makes sense. When women unprepared to be parents are forced to be, society is worse off.
I don't support the death penalty.
What about vaccine mandates?
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2 minutes ago, BillStime said:
It’s all about compromise but the Christo fascists killed it.This *will* backfire on the cult.
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Lmao this is UNDOING minority rule. What is poor Luke thinking.
We were close bro. We could have changed the country you and I
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2 minutes ago, BillStime said:
Backwards? You brought up Ukraine
Red states need to increase taxes and provide critical care for their children.And if you think women are going to listen to your beliefs and not make that ultimate choice on their own by any means - you’re kidding yourself.
Freakn Nazi
Okay sure. Let's absolutely raise taxes to help take care of children and make abortion illegal except in lifesaving situations or non-viability.
We can make history here bro! We are compromising.
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1 minute ago, Andy1 said:
As a married man, I have been taught that women do in fact have knowledge that is different from a man. Just ask a woman. They will tell you.This is cute but very obviously unserious.
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Just now, BillStime said:
Of course - true to your cult - you hate democracy, too.You didn’t mind all the money Trump spent and what he did to the deficit, right?
Idiots
Now you're going backward.
Let's focus on the children. Let's take some of the money that we don't need to spend on stuff other than the children, and let's spend it on the children. Let's help them live happy lives instead of murdering them out of convenience. This is a good plan that you sounded like you agreed with.
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Just now, BillStime said:
Wait - you want federal funds (from blue states) to bail out what red states won’t fund on their own?Cute.
The stats already show that a majority of blue states have fewer poor kids per capita, fewer dead babies and fewer children raised by children.
Childhood Poverty:
https://data.ers.usda.gov/reports.aspx?ID=17826
Infant Mortality: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm
Teen Birth Rate:https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm
Pay up red states
Absolutely. We should try to pay for our our children to live happy lives instead of murdering them so we can send billions to Ukraine. This is a good plan. We are getting somewhere you and I.
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9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
People don't give up their bodily autonomy because they made poor choices. I won't ever compromise on that.
What? Yes they do, all the time.
Unless you think people consent to those pesky lethal injections when they get the death penalty.
2 minutes ago, BillStime said:That would require the cult to have to actually fund it - freak
Put a bill on the floor. Who controls Congress?
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4 minutes ago, LeviF said:
In that scenario, should the uncles be executed?Castrated.
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2 minutes ago, Andy1 said:
Are only men concerned about the life of the unborn? What I suggested was hypothetical of course, but I still believe that women understand this complex issue on a far deeper level than men.
Based on what? What hidden knowledge do "women" inherently possess?
Just now, BillStime said:The cult never cared about the details.
Let's reform CPS instead of tweeting about it then.
Oh, wait. Crickets.
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21 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Are they literally just going to try and turn the country into right wing wonderland? Is everything the right wants about to be delivered to them?
This new gun regulation that's about to be passed, how can that survive a challenge if NY can't have its gun laws upheld
Gun laws gone
Health care gone
Environmental protections gone
Gay rights gone
Corporate regulations gone
Voting rights gone
I have a hard time seeing this crowd stopping until we have a theocracy
I heard they are going to ban PPP for left wing posters next. Extremely high on ACB's agenda.
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9 minutes ago, Andy1 said:
I would be ok with legislatures solving the issue provided that the voting members were all women. This is a womens health issue. If women decided the rules, we would probably get to reasonable compromise in the states.
lmao no.
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3 hours ago, HappyDays said:
Hers, obviously. She doesn't exist separately from a part of her body.
No. Bodily autonomy cannot be compromised. Consenting to sex is not the same as consenting to pregnancy. That's like saying consenting to driving is also consenting to being in a car accident. Pregnancy is inherently dangerous. Nobody should be forced against their will to put their own life at risk, even if another life is at stake. Think of the implications of that moral standard if applied to all walks of life. Should we start forcing the elderly to give up their organs to young people? Even if you take the most conservative view of fetus personhood I still don't accept that a person should be forced by the government to do that to themselves.
This would be a good point if there was any way to get pregnant without having sex. But there isn’t. They know the game and the score. If you don’t accept it, don’t play.
If you can’t accept the risk of a car accident, don’t get behind the wheel.
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10 hours ago, cle23 said:
The "spine" of Mitch McConnel. That might be the funniest thing I've read in a really long time.
You ever see animals abandon their young if they aren't fit? Or the ones that eat them? Or the ones that wipe out an entire group of young to they can impregnate the mothers again? So yeah, your point is pointless.
It’s moral to eat kids because animals do it. Sick point idiot.
10 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:All good points, but I would go a bit further - why do we always fall back on "endangers her life?"
What if there's no threat to her life, but what if she has severe morning sickness? I looked it up because, well, I'm not a woman: it typically begins at 6 weeks, is at its worst at 9 weeks, and can continue a few weeks beyond that. So we tell women: "You are required to undergo 6 weeks of misery even though a simple procedure could restore you to full health and happiness almost immediately."
I don't see how the existence of a mere potential for a human life more than half a year later can outweigh the woman's interest in her own health and happiness.
LMAO I MUST KILL MY CHILD BC IM SLIGHTLY UNCOMFORTABLE. ANOTHER GREAT POINT.
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5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
The states will what? I think that was the question.
They will decide the manner of enforcement.
Just now, ChiGoose said:
The states will all set their own laws, so that rich people always have access to abortion but poor people may not.
Some states will enact long arm statutes to punish people seeking abortions elsewhere.
People in some states will have more rights than people in other states.
People in some states may be prosecuted for miscarriages, needing to spend money on a lawyer to fight the charges.
Taxpayers in some states will have to pay for care for people fleeing other states for medical care.
That is what “letting the states decide” means.
lmao it's past your bedtime, save the histrionics for the morning.
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1 hour ago, Coffeesforclosers said:
So in the states that just banned abortion. Does this mean women will have to register their pregnancies with the government? How are we supposed to make sure all these pregnancies are being carried to term?
Has anybody thought about enforcement, what it looks like, and the implications?
The states will.
That's the whole point.
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4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
In terms of pure constitutional law this is probably the right decision. Roe v Wade was always an activist decision. But it really sucks for women that live in states who are going to criminalize abortion. Abortions will still happen in those states, just unsafely. Millions of unwanted pregnancies being carried to term will lead to an increased crime rate in about 20 years. I don't have a problem with the court decision but illegal abortion in many states is a net negative for the country IMO.
The issue is I don't trust legislators to build laws around that science. Not even a little bit. In my mind it has always seemed simpler to leave it up to the person that carries the fetus, period. I get that abortion is a moral grey area but in a free society we have to accept those grey areas because the alternative is stripping people of their freedoms.
Bolded is all you need to say.
Left right or center, after COVID, we can all agree that legislators and government officials by and large SUCK at being scientists.
What's really the quandry is should states be allowed to make what I would consider bad decisions and legislation? In our system of government, the answer is yes.
2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:Not to mention men on the hook for child support for a child neither parent wanted.
Oh no, will someone think of the men!
***** all that. You get a girl pregnant, pony up you deadbeat.
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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:
But, but, but ... I do hate injuries, and I do hope that Tom Brady gets hurt for the year! Is there anything wrong with that?
I can't bear to answer yes.
***** I have been thwarted by my own analogy.
5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:Dead fetus = spontaneous abortion, not induced abortion. So, correct.
But: nonviable fetus? Severe genetic defect, sure to be "born" stillborn? Illegal to abort that fetus in many states. Make that mom deliver!
If there's a proposal in my state to ensure legal abortions for non-viable infants, I will support it.
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Roe vs Wade Overturned
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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“Why do you care if someone else gets murdered.”
man you’re killing it today. PUN INTENDED