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10 hours ago, MJS said:
No, it's not adding attempts, it is completing two more of his already attempted passes per game (and Allen attempts less passes than most QB's as it is, having a smaller sample size and a smaller margin for error).
And really this highlights that there really isn't a big difference between 58.8% and the magical, arbitrary 60%. They are virtually the same.
Allen was over 60% as a passer for much of the season. He then faced some of the NFL's best defenses late in the year which dipped him below that number.
Unfortunately, 60% puts him squarely at 30th in the NFL last season
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lol this clown show perfectly encapsulates why Aaron Rodgers is a better version of Jeff George.
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5 minutes ago, MJS said:
I don't disagree.
Can you elaborate?
The overarching point is that there are a handful of young QBs in the NFL that have not proven enough to be considered stars, but also have shown enough good things that their teams are quite comfortable and happy with them so far
Allen, Jones, Darnold, Mayfield, and Murray fall into this. Some would argue that Goff/Wentz are on the tail end of these good graces for one reason or another. The only proven really good QB’s who are still relatively young are Watson, Mahomes, Wilson and on the bottom rung Dak.
I would understand the argument of not trading Allen for Dak and below. I would also understand the argument for not trading Dak or Jones or Mayfield for Allen. The only reasonable answer is that everyone would trade Allen for Wilson, Watson or Mahomes.
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1 hour ago, Doc said:
So you'd sign Cam just in case that happens? Why wouldn't, say, the Cheaters, or the Jets, or the Browns, or the Raiders do that as well?
The Pats can’t afford him like you’ve said a trillion times.
I don’t know if I’d sign Cam in case that happens. I don’t know if I’d even WANT it to happen. I’d rather win or lose with Josh and know where things stand going into year 4.
The Jets and Browns are in similar camps. Gruden seems to like Carr or so he says so I can’t comment on the Raiders.
I’m torn on the point tbh. Especially since we have no idea what Cam has left in the tank.
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38 minutes ago, MJS said:
So I'm supposed to disregard wins because it isn't a QB stat. But I'm supposed to consider the head coach, coordinator, and schemes when judging a QB. I should also ignore rushing stats (even though that's a huge part of Josh's game, especially in the red zone). I should also penalize Josh Allen when comparing him to other QB's because he has a good (defensive) coach and continuity and more talent around him.
I'm also supposed to compare only Josh's rookie year to Jones's rookie year (again, ignoring rushing stats), and in this instance not consider the talent around him. I should also assume that Jones will progress, even though there are plenty of examples of sophmore QB's struggling.
It's crazy the lengths we have to go to in order to de-legitimize Josh Allen.
There's no world where Beane would ever consider trading Josh Allen for Daniel Jones. Stupid, stupid trade proposal.
I don’t think there’s a world where Gettleman trades Jones for Josh either. They are far different QB’s.
There are also plenty of examples of third year QB’s struggling, FYI.
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1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:
I bet Carroll was thinking about what he could do with Mayfield on a rookie deal and save $35 million to roll into skill positions and rebuilding a defense. Paying max contract to a QB makes filling out the rest of your roster difficult.
I’m sure he was. And I understand the argument, I just don’t agree with it.
Russ without a great team around him still put up STELLAR 18 and 19 campaigns. Baker put up good and okay numbers with a very talented Browns team (I know, Hue and Kitchens though.)
Russell’s contract isn’t preventing Carroll from falling into All-Pro DB’s in the fifth round which was the real reason that team was so nasty in 2014. The other core guys were mostly drafted in the later rounds.
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2 hours ago, MJS said:
I see no reason why they can't win at least 8. They have talent. Goff has shown he can be a game manager. They won 9 games last year. I expect them to win 9 or 10.
I think folks heard that Goff struggled last year and assumed that they went 6-10.
If Goff and McVay expand that offense and change things up, they are right back in the playoff mix.
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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:
or just certain specific people.
I don’t think a lot of Giants fans would trade Jones for Allen. Jones quietly had a pretty solid rookie year.
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21 minutes ago, Doc said:
If you think he's a legit threat to Josh, there are many places they could have gone...but didn't/haven't.
I think if Josh struggled in the first half of the year and the rest of the team looked great, there would be a few little birdies talking about a QB switch mid season.
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That’s insane IMO. Wilson is an MVP candidate every year. A winner, a mobile threat etc etc.
I liked the 2018 class as much as anyone (shout out Rosen and Baker) but what a gaffe that would have proven to be.
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2 hours ago, Simon said:
I don't think it would be an issue because a) there's a lot of pride involved in individual matchups and somebody trying to rip your head off tends to concentrate the mind wonderfully and b) this will sound weird but you don't really hear crowd noise when you're actually playing; it's like your mind is dealing with so much other data that it dismisses any auditory input outside of the field of play. I've actually had moments where I can see people yelling near the sidelines but don't register any actual related sound.
You say this but I firmly remember groans when I got a pass called for me in high school.
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8 minutes ago, snafu said:
The bold text is an excellent question.
Leadership is about managing people’s expectations and making rational, non-arbitrary decisions. Normal citizens without agendas understand this.
There just aren’t many of those any more. For even suggesting people need to eventually return to work, you are called a murderer.
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1 hour ago, eball said:
Why didn't those home crowds lead to better results at home?
It's an overblown "advantage."
We played better teams at home?
28 minutes ago, KD in CA said:The bigger issue is which guys will be able to play to their max ability in front of an empty house. Let's be clear -- these guys are performers, they thrive off the energy of the crowd and have been used to playing in front of thousands of people since they were kids. Playing in an empty stadium will feel like a practice. Some won't be affected at all, but I believe many will. I think it will add a huge variable to the season.
This is an excellent point. And while I’m not usually a McBeane cheerleader when it comes to the process and culture, I have to think that them bringing in a lot high culture DNA guys who aren’t exactly heralded may help here. Mario Addison may find it easier to get pumped up than a lot of NFLers.
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16 hours ago, CommonCents said:
The Rams aren’t winning 8 games this year.
Huh? They went 9-7 last year and 4 of their games were vs the Seahawks and 49ers.
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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:
And? He performed when he was on the field.... Then enter McDermott, and he didn’t want to put up with his ***** up mentality. So he shipped him off and many Bills fans have hated him since.
Sammy wasn’t on the field because he was tearing off his cast and acting like a psycho. And Sammy was clearly begging to leave town.
Sammy had the potential to be our #1 WR for over a decade and instead he prolonged his own injury problems, was an issue to our new coach, and acted like a complete psycho. Wow, can’t believe he’s disliked.
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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:
He had two good years actually. One injury consumed year where he suffered a Jones fracture.... he’s a ***** whack job.... this doesn’t make him much different than A LOT of NFL players.
So what? We didn’t spend two first rounders on A LOT of NFL players. We did on Sammy.
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4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
I responded to the thread by saying you’d think Sammy was a complete bust and out of the league by now with all the hate he’s getting in here.
I’m not sure why you understand Sammy is hated.
I could break it down for you. We invested 2 first rounds picks in an offensive player who had one good year, battled injuries, screwed up his own rehab, saw dark energy from our HC and acted like an insane person, and who had to be shipped off for a much lower value due to all of the above. Then this guy puts up okayish numbers on two teams since then, and then has a good postseason and ultimately wins a Super Bowl.
He’d get less hate if he was a complete bust. Imagine if we cut Aaron Maybin, he put up 8 sacks with the Jets and then won a Super Bowl.
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3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
A little crazy? That guys ***** nuts. Dude was off his rocker 24/7. A lot of NFL players(and really good players mind you) are complete delinquents off the field. Who knew? Teams put up with it because they perform on the field
If your just checking the box score, yea Patriots don’t win a super bowl without Hogan.... Sammy stepped up big all post season and made Sherman a fool to set up the go ahead TD for the Chiefs.
To answer your question, for the new regime and for McDermotts style I’d say no it wasn’t the wrong move to trade him, but I don’t think it’s that simple.
They essentially swapped Sammy for Kelvin Benjamin.(Of course, they preferred the ex Carolina Panther?) Benjamin was a ***** show where it matters, on the football field and is now out of the league in case you didn’t know that either.
Except they traded a 3rd for KB, not the second they got for Sammy.
And if you think the bolded, what is all the ***** hand wringing about?
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23 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:
Punctuation and spell check would really help the rest of us morons comprehend your posts, T Might Shyamalan.
This was the first Agatha Christie/TBD mashup in history. Your plebeian mind couldn’t hope to comprehend it.
Don’t listen to them @T master!! First they laugh at you, then they listen to you, then you win! I look forward to your next murder mystery that’s tertiarily related to Walt Patulski!
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2 hours ago, matter2003 said:
You can believe what you will believe. I believe the universe doesn't exist in the narrow confines that we think it does. Ironically if you actually believe in physics and the teachings of Einstein, Tesla and various other brilliant minds they clearly talk about other dimensions and worm holes, dark matter, a universal energy source, etc as being real and as far as I know none of those theories have been proven wrong, and in fact most have been proven right.
There is so much we have no clue about, but few people question things beyond what is directly in front of their face.
I certainly question the lizard king from Ft Myers and his ability to sense the wavelength of the dark spirits following my energy.
Maybe I’m the crazy one, but I doubt it.
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Imagine if the rest of the D doesn’t miss a beat from last season and Norman plays at a ProBowl level. I think that could be enough to take us to a championship even without the offense taking another step.
2 minutes ago, Doc said:I don't see it as a huge concern. Wallace manned the position and should get better. But competition helps and hopefully Norman can find the fountain of youth.
CB2 is really just a mild concern on a team without many of them. Our DB room in general is pretty well stocked. I’m confident someone steps up to take the job, whether it’s Wallace, Gaines, or Norman.
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1 minute ago, NewEra said:
That’s not the only difference. Did the other guys think they are living in another dimension? We’re they constantly injured and isolating themselves from their teammates? Did they rip off their walking boot against team advice and reinjure themselves?
Zay Jones tried to fight for Jesus and he wasn’t nearly as insane as Sammy is.
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1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
If Allen can bolster his passing numbers by running or 8-9 TDs every year, then great. I just don't know if that is sustainable.
If it's not, then the passing numbers have to improve or he's in the bottom 5 of the league.
As long as the Bills offense scores more points, that's the most important.
If you look at the way the Bills use Josh in the RZ and the way Cam was used in the RZ, it’s probably sustainable he gets something like 5 to 8 rushing TD’s per year.
Cam rushed about .46 TD’s per start over his career. Josh is at .62. Some years he may only have 4 and some years he may have double digits.
I agree that expecting 9 RTD’s every year is unlikely to come to fruition. But with the addition of Diggs I could see 25 PTD’s and 5 RTD’s next year easy.
2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:IF ALLEN GOES OUT AND HAS TRUBISKY'S YEAR 3 THEN WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION YOU SLEEPY POTATO
Lol. It’s really quite simple. Saying Tom Brady or Russell Wilson was underdrafted is using the benefit of hindsight. Asking if you’d rather have Tom Brady or Russell Wilson next season as your QB is not.
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3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
I hate you.
but as annoying as you are, I’ve come to hate you less. Maybe I’ll just go back to being a homer. ?
Josh Allen is the best qb in the nfl and anyone who says different is a ? head!!! Better?
Your playbook hasn’t changed in 10 years of posting. It’s just incredible. I now truly understand your Jauron love. It’s because you are the Jauron of TBD posters.
Anybody want to go on record about Josh?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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None of the above. A combo of Matt Stafford/Jay Cutler type career. Earns a second contract, is franchise material. Never is a truly elite QB but has his share of great seasons.