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22 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
When agent described Beasley's leg injury he called it broken but it was cracked.
Likely ribs were cracked as well.
I have had both cracked and broken bones.
For me my arm bone was broken playing football and when endorphins went down my arm was in Z shape with bone pieces separated from each other. There is a difference between broken and fractured.
Lmao where'd you get ur MD
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1 hour ago, White Linen said:
Oh cmon, you dismissed him like its some no brainer. He's no slouch and has been throwing guys into huge numbers for a long time.
I mean, Joe Burrow is way better than Kirk Cousins. Who could argue this?
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3 hours ago, TBBills said:
Jim Kelly numbers but in the new age of football... average.
Absolutely, but still way better than when he started.
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4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
Did I mention anywhere the Kansas City Chiefs? No. You have Issues, son.
If you say ‘don’t go to Vegas’, I’m calling my travel agent. Should give you some idea of the respect you’ve earned with your opinions..🤦♂️
They were the #2 offense in the NFL. And their odds of "scoring" on a particular drive were less than 50% 😆
I bet you hit on 18 in blackjack.
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12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:
Nope. Recover your onside lick, shake hands with the losers.
In 2018-2019, under the new rules, there have been 79 onside kicks and the kicking team has recovered 5 of them, or 6 percent.
No.
KC only scores on <50% of their drives.
Those are horrible odds. Don't go to Vegas
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54 minutes ago, White Linen said:
Cousins can't help a WR put up huge numbers?
Sure he can but I’d rather have Joe Burrow. He had an OUTRAGEOUS 8.9 YPA last year.
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1 hour ago, mabden said:
With the rule changes over the years favoring the offensive side of the game, this is now a passing league and a QB, was and still is, it's most important position. The combo of QB/WR (take advantage of the rules) followed by CB/DE (counter to the rules) are where teams are putting their money.
The Bill's top 4 players (money wise) are QB, DE, WR, CB. (Allen, Miller, Diggs, White)
NE seems to be going in the opposite direction. Weak armed QB, no WR weapon to throw to, and let their top CB (exposed by Diggs) walk. Their top DE (jodun) was exposed by Allen as second rate. Their strategy of run the ball/play great defense may have got them to the playoffs, but no further and all indications are they won't make the payoffs this year.
Buffalo, on the other hand, is considered the favorite to make and win the SB.
Lol the Pats drafted a QB in the first round and spent the most money ever on receiving targets.
How are people so wrong
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8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:
Doubt this will happen, but win the OT coin toss, take the ball and score a TD. Then Onsides Kickoff. Don’t recover it and give them possession near midfield? Fine. They score then you get the ball back and drive to a FG to win or recover the ball. Or recover the kick. Either way, game over, you win.
You would almost certainly never onside kick in that scenario. Higher chance for a tipped pick, fumble or just a turnover on downs driving 80 yards.
And if you don’t, you still need to score twice to win.
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2 hours ago, KzooMike said:
With QB/WR/CB contracts making up such large % of the cap. That's if you're even lucky enough to be in that position with a QB. Now put yourselves in the shoes of teams that don't have a clear QB. Do you really try and model teams like Buffalo? It took us 20 years to find a QB and plenty of wasted draft capital in the process. The league is always evolving and I can't help but think we are at a crossroads with the way teams go about building.
We saw Baltimore take Lamar with this type of mindset. They had no intention of running a traditional NFL offense. Ironically, they very well could end up paying a traditional franchise QB price tag. Then New England last year. Both franchises really did not place a big focus on the traditional passing game. Spend resources in areas other teams aren't. Run the football and play great defense. This has been enough to allow playoff appearances by both teams but that is as far as it's gotten. Perhaps that's as far as it can go.
All I know is if I'm in the AFC right now I'm looking at about a dozen teams that have a nuclear bomb and I don't know if my goal is to keep up with that arms race. I think I have a better chance fighting this battle differently.
Is this something you expect we will see championed by more teams in the coming years? More teams essentially reverting back to more of a traditional football strategy?
I mean, you have to rate your chances of just getting lucky vs putting together a super team sans QB.
When you look at the history of the NFL, particularly in the last 20 years, there are a handful of teams without “elite” QB’s that won titles. Some of them had good teams with solid QB’s who got hot, some had incredible defenses with bad QB’s.
Would the Giants have been better off trying to find a better QB than Eli? A guy who, outside of two historic playoff runs, was maybe a little bit better than Derek Carr level QB? Is there a universe where a little less luck has Eli being a better version of Jimmy G who got his team close but ultimately lost to the better QB?
Joe Flacco has as many Super Bowls as Russell Wilson, but he wasn’t the same caliber of QB. Joe Flacco wasn’t close to as good as Rivers and Rivers never sniffed a SB.
IMO, teams that have a “good enough” QB should do exactly what they do in the NFL. Build the best possible team around them, hope they get some luck and string together a few wins in the postseason. Lamar is good enough. Jimmy G was good enough (when healthy).
Every team can’t tank until they get a top 3 QB. Every team can’t punt on the season just because better QB’s exist. Look at the Raiders. Some folks say “why are they trading for Adams when they have the worst QB in the division?” And my response would be, what else are they supposed to do? Just forfeit til Mahomes and Herbert retire?
The Bills are unique in the sense that we went from “no QB” to “great QB,” after 20 years of waiting. Most NFL teams don’t do that. Most teams eventually have starter quality QB’s over a period of 10 years, that can win games with a good enough team around them. The 49ers had Smith and Jimmy in the last 20. The Ravens had Flacco and Lamar. The Bengals had Palmer then Dalton then Burrow. Cowboys had Romo then Dak.The Bills strategy is the exact strategy you don’t want. They would have been in the exact same boat Pre Josh Allen if they drafted a QB every year. Except they may have actually made the playoffs more than once.
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Fitz either aged like fine wine or is a perfect example of modern NFL rules/offense benefiting QB's.
Fitz's first 8 years in the NFL:
59.5% completion percentage, 6.4 YPA, 92 TD's 81 INT's. Terry Bradshaw numbers
Fitz's last 9 years in the NFL:
61.7%, 7.3 YPA, 131 TD's, 88 INT's. Jim Kelly numbers.
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11 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:
He's a better prospect. Started over JJ in college (#1 vs. #2). 5th pick of the draft (vs. 22nd for JJ). 13 TDs as a rookie (JJ had 7 and 10 respectively in his two seasons). 18.0 ypc. Elevated his offense/team to playoffs and SB in first season. Extra year on his cheap rookie deal. And I don't see him backsliding. If anything, I expect him to put up MONSTER numbers next year. No brainer for me.
Kirk Cousins vs Joe Burrow?
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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I think Deshaun Watson is kind of a weirdo and did some untoward weird stuff.
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1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:
If you want to go with that reasoning, Jamarr Chase is just as good as JJ and has an additional year on his rookie contract.
Jamarr has 1 year body of work with the much better QB. But I get your point.
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As we continue to bear the doldrums of NFL FA, I thought this would be a fun little debate. QB’s eliminated because their trade value is STAGGERINGLY high.
So, topic title. What player currently in the NFL, currently under their existing contract, would go for the most in a “we are shopping X” type bidding war?
I think there may be one clear answer. And my pick is Justin Jefferson. Superstar? Check. Affordable contract for 3 years? Check. Young with potential? Check.
I’m sure the AD’s of the world will get tossed around, but he’s older and with a big fat contract. I think JJ is potentially in the most valuable NFL player currently.
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7 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
With near unanimous consensus even LSU fans don’t even want the guy and with kamara facing suspension he could be put to use. Your friend just sucks.
4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:I think its more he doesn't follow it all that closely to know the real details, hes not a bad dude, just a friend I play basketball with
This whole topic was an elaborate ploy to expose @Alphadawg7's bball buddies
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Had some legal trouble, accused of some bad stuff, but was a second round pick.
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6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
They are just for fun.
Seriously.
Is posting on TBD “worth it?”
God I hope so.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Those guys bust as well.
All positions bust. We shouldn't draft anybody.
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11 minutes ago, beebe said:
Before the trade, the Chiefs couldn't keep Mathieu. Now they can if they desire. The trade now allows them to add someone like CB Gilmore if they desire. It allows them to trade for a defensive player now that they've cleared space (Veach has made a ton of trades in his time, including last year for Melvin Ingram and LT Orlando Brown, on top of the Tyreek trade, on top of countless others.) There will still be post June 1 cuts. And most obviously, they have eight picks in the first four rounds, and he will likely package a few of them to move up to select a defensive player or two who can make an instant impact. Or a stud WR in mid 1st round. So yes, this can for sure help the team in 2022 on the whole, even while acknowledging that Tyreek was special beyond words.
LMAO this is hilarious.
The Chiefs can now add a player (like MVS, nice). Excellent use of $10M.
They can also trade for a defensive player. Which defensive player? Idk. Someone. Maybe.
They can also draft players. They can package those picks, and get instant impact players/stud WR's. The classic move. Everyone knows working a little package action in the third round ALWAYS means instant impact.
Ya'll should hear yourselves. The Chiefs are like the old Pats to you.
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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Agree to disagree. You think Josh Allen NEEDS a “game breaking RB” to win a super bowl. I whole heartedly disagree.
I would rather have the fourth WR than the 1st RB in the first round. Pls and ty
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1 hour ago, mrags said:
I’m done arguing this point with anyone. We clearly don’t have a true number 1 RB (Singletary last numbers have proved that). We definitely don’t have a RB that offers us the ability to be on the field as a 3 down back (Beanes need for McKissik, Johnson, and Breida have proved that). We don’t have a game changer at the position. We don’t have a player that defenses and coordinators have to game plan for. And that makes our offense more one dimensional than it needs to be.
of course we can win with what he have. We have proved that. Of course we could win the SB with what we have, last year would have proved that if McDermott didn’t decide to go prevent defense with 13 seconds left. Of course if there’s better players than a RB at pick 25 we should take them. My argument is, and has always been that if the top 4-5 WRs are gone, if the top 2-4 CBs are gone, if Hall or another RB they see as the best at the position, and the best player in the board at 25 or even later rounds. They should take him. We are definitely handcuffed by what we Currently have in our RB room. Another 3-4th round pick likely won’t fix that.
everyone has their opinions. I’m not going to bother trying to change anyone else’s anymore. Believe what you want. And I hope you all stay true to your displeasure with the pick of an early round RB if it happens.
If only we could draft a player like Kamara or Henry or Montgomery or Cook without using a first. Alas
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We had a massive hole at gunner.
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30 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Dude is likely going to jail. Did you see him play last year behind No OL and No QB? He wasn’t good. 3.7 ypc 4 TDs. Motor was 💯 better than Kamara last year.
Excellent total post. How many times do we have to watch this song and dance?
The Demarco Murray to Zeke to Tony Pollard saga is the EXACT reason you don’t draft RB’s high and you don’t pay RB’s.
Murray went from the best RB in football to out of the league in two seconds. Zeke was great for a couple years and fell off a cliff.
I would love a superstar RB. I get it. But it’s not necessary and they are USUALLY bad investments. And it’s bad team building to not treat them any other way than BAD investments.
35 minutes ago, mrags said:Your not saying anything I’m not. I also want a WR early. One that can become our future #1. But the fact is, if you don’t find that at 25, and your picking BPA to help you now and in the future, then Hall bight be it.
There is not a single instance of a 1st round RB being a good long-term investment in the last decade of the NFL.
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21 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:
We Drafted Rouseau, Basham 1sr and 2nd last year… brought in Von Miller and Shaq Lawson..Epinessa was a 2nd Rd pick in 2020… how many pass rushers do we need?
What message does it send to Diggs if we draft a WR #1? That we are planning to move on from him? I want to keep harmony on the team also ..at least for this year. I am not saying you wouldn’t draft one.. but I don’t think it is an area of need this year.
Diggs can’t catch every pass. Teams start 3 WR’s and 3 CB’s. Diggs and Tre understand this.
And Von Miller has 2-3 years left. We ABSOLUTELY should be still taking shots on pass rushers while he’s here. Having a bunch of good pass rushers is a GOOD thing. Having a bunch of good receivers is a GOOD thing.
What you shouldn’t do is throw high picks away on positions like RB and OG that you will let walk if they are Pro Bowlers. The goal with the first round pick is to acquire players you plan to retain. Those are players at impact positions.
Rise of the Contrarian Teams?
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They made the playoffs. Mostly because they drafted an upgrade at QB.
Mac may never be elite. But by drafting ANY QB in the first round, and spending a ton of money on recieving threats in FA, how can anyone say they aren’t prioritizing the passing game?
You can argue it won’t work, but you can’t argue that they aren’t trying.