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Legitimately incorrect. I do think Lamar has gotten more love in the media than Josh even tho I believe that Josh is better but that’s the extent of my bias against him. for you to level accusations of this magnitude is frankly absurd. I’m not plotting under your bed dude. It’s twobillsdrive. Besides the fact, if what you said was true AT ALL, why wouldn’t I pick the easier target of Kyler Murray? Way more topical and relevant. Or was that a part of my insidious plan to throw you off the scent??

No, I just told them to meet me at high noon at Artpark.

I used to challenge posters on TBD to fight me but some moderators found it “immature” and “morally reprehensible” and so the bit died.

See this makes MORE sense to me. Honestly probably smart from a management standpoint. It wasn’t their year, and shut it down. I buy that. An unusual situation in the NFL, but they were an unusually injured football team.

Jauronimo was being sarcastic my dude.

Agreed, shots like that are insane. There are a ton of great black QB’s in the NFL. Dak, Kyler, Lamar, along with some guys who have potential like Hurts, Tua, Fields. We should be going forward, not backward.

Lol and MY thread about speculation is over the top? As much as I enjoy your football takes, you are WAY off on this one.

I think that’s a little over the top, personally.

Doing what? Discussing a rival QB? I don’t understand what the big deal is. There was rampant speculation that he’s battling IBD or some other problems months ago. I don’t know if any of that holds water. But it’s just kinda weird.

Dude. Lamar Jackson will probably the second biggest AFC rival to Josh Allen for the next 15 years. I think one topic on him is ok.

Are we acting like Lamar Jackson is not a media darling? there are two sides to every contract negotiation. For all you know, Lamar wants to be paid more than Mahomes.

How many people did anything with a torn labrum and broken shoulder this year? Let alone played football? Baker Mayfield did. In the words of Sammy Watkins, let’s not pretend all of y’all’s little jobs are the same.

I somehow manage to be tiresome unintentionally and intentionally. I am the Lamar Jackson of tiresome.

I said if I was a Ravens fan or player. I’m neither of those things. I swear, I’m not Marlon Humphrey. I do wonder the extent of his injury, because there’s basically no details. That’s why it’s strange.

This is a dome thread Umm you aren’t an nfl player. appreciate the insight tho. I don’t think Lamar has had surgery yet.

I don’t think Lamar is malingering. If he can’t go, he can’t go. I wouldn’t hold it against him personally. He’s gotta look out for himself, look what happened to Baker. He played hurt and played himself out of a long term deal. I think there may be more to the story because on its face it seems kinda odd and it seemed to me to not really be discussed.

Listen, Lamar wasn’t put on IR. there aren’t even articles trying to figure the extent of the injury. Just moratorium.

So we all know the Ravens were extremely unlucky IRT injuries this year. Still, despite being extremely banged up, this team was at one point one seed 2/3rds of the way through the season. they lost their final 6 to miss the postseason, 4 of those with LJ out with injury. Lamar’s injury? A bone bruise. So Lamar sits for their last 4, basically dooming a team that was 8-5, because he couldn’t play on a bone bruise? I get it, it was probably extremely painful, they probably weren’t going to go deep into the postseason but still. If it were Baker Mayfield who was in a similar situation, I think the media crushes him. Even if it was Aaron Rodgers, I think it’s a major topic. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone in the media even ask the question, was Lamar truly that hurt that they had to roll with “one read” Huntley and ruin their whole season? If I was a Ravens fan, I’d be kinda pissed. If I was a Ravens player, I’d be probably pretty annoyed. A lot of guys are banged up near the end of the year. Lamar with four weeks off couldn’t give it a go against the Steelers in a must win game? Even at 70%, wouldn’t he give them their best chance to win?

I kinda disagree. I think windows get larger and smaller for all teams with franchise QB's. Teams that think that they are a piece or two away will make short term gambles to get them over the hump. Philly was built through the draft for the most part, made some splash acquisitions like Alshon Jeffrey, previously traded a bunch to get Wentz and won it all which they paid for later. Seattle was ALSO built through the draft, but still made splash acquisitions (trading for Percy Harvin), or later trading for Jimmy Graham to get them there which they paid for later. The Falcons had their TG and Roddy White teams in the early 2010s, those guys got old, they rebuilt and went back to the SB 6 years later after retooling. Even the Packers had a few lean years when their great WR group aged out., retooled, and came back. Even the Pats, the model of sustainability in the NFL, had a 10 year SB drought and had to revamp the entire roster to get back to winning championships. Barring injury, teams like the Bills and Chiefs will be in the mix for most of their young QB's careers. Mahomes will have a down year when Tyreek and Kelce start to age, and they will have to make some moves to regain competitiveness in terms of SB's. The Bills will also have some down years when Diggs and our safeties start to get old but Josh has another 8 years of playing at a high level. The most important thing is to not double and triple down over and over. Once McD and Beane have built enough goodwill, you have to know when to plan for 2 or 3 years in the future to make another run. I'm okay with a weird 9 or 10 win year where we are shedding some older players and retooling to make a deep run. There aren't teams that are going to consistently draft superstars to perfectly replace their old blue chip players to constantly compete. It doesn't happen. And even if it did, we certainly don't appear to be that team. There is a distinct aspect of luck. The Seahawks got a couple HoFers in a row and that jammed open their window. They regressed in drafting JAGs more often than not and thus their window slid smaller. I hope AJ Epenesa and Greg Rousseau become stars on the edge. It would be helpful. And when they are old and expensive, I hope we draft players to replace them who will also be stars. But that just doesn't really happen. "Building to win now and win in the future" just isn't real.

Sure bro. Really don't hope that Breida costs us the Chiefs game. TBD may shut down with how many emojis you'll post being pumped about it!

You seem extremely gleeful that Matt Breida turned out to be a non-factor, are you rooting for the Bills or the Chiefs next weekend?

Again with this silly stat.

This is absolutely a concern. Hopefully Russ hates the Pats after that super bowl

Because attempts is directly correlated to games played? Does Josh Allen have more rushing yards since week 13 than Nick Chubb if they played the same amount of games? No. Dumb stat.

That rushing yard stat is SO BAD. Comparing Josh to multiple players with one or two less games than him. Apples to orangutans. Ho hum.