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Where is the link the panthers complained

Yeah it was “common knowledge” based on supposition, largely by you if I recall correctly. dont get me wrong, I’m not saying I necessarily disagree. I just am asking if there’s any proof or if you actually heard something

What is your source on that is my question. a supposition is one thing

If that’s the case, I’m on pace to have been posting for 400 years by Christmas. Too much pride

No one is saying this. Lots of folks are saying they wouldn’t pay the Dak/Lawrence tier. Which is why I included Baker. Because he’s a tier above. IMO. I LOVE Baker. He’s 8-12 for me.

Someone has racked up 1 too many warning points. Don’t fall for his tricks@Simon

“Baker is the worst QB that I would give franchise money to” is not a controversial take!

Bro I STG I’m not having a Baker conversation I don’t care.

I’m more concerned that TJ has switched to offense, personally. In all seriousness, you are 100% correct. This offense’s only “explosives” come from Allen’s extending or Cook.

No I guess what I’m asking is about the “what Carolina believed” part

He was arguably a top 5 QB last year. 2 years ago he was almost out of the league. like I said, opinion noted lol.

Huh

What, again.

Really not sure that’s true but that’s okay, opinion noted.

Someone may not think Tua/Purdy/Lawrence/Geno or Kyler are franchise QBs. For some the list may be 20 or for some the list may be 12.

Not sure if computing. No one says Marty was great because he’s 8th in total wins. This is a strawman to no one in particular. No one thinks McD can carry Shula’s jock so why even bring it up? The rest of your post basically boils down to “McDermott found/developed Josh so even if he is carried hard by Josh and is the reason Josh doesn’t have a SB ring yet, it’s okay because he found him”

What list? Does anyone understand the question lol

What

What independent reporting have you done to dispute The Athletics’ article?

FWIW, Brandon Beane didn't interview with the Bills until after the draft, and was one of a couple candidates interviewed. I know the suspicion is that he knew and was tipping picks to McD but do we know that's true?

I think Murray is actually the answer as the worst franchise QB in the NFL. I did forget to put him. To your list I would probably shuffle around Baker/Stroud which would put him near the bottom, (every other QB near there has been mentioned in this topic).

It can be your own definition. You can think the worst guy worth franchise QB money. The worst guy who can lead a team to a Superbowl. Whatever. The only way to get this answer wrong is to name a player you don't think is a franchise QB, like everyone is doing lol. You can say "Dak Prescott is a franchise QB but he's flawed because X, Y and Z, and that's why he's the worst franchise QB" You have missed the point if you say "My answer is Dak Prescott because he isn't a franchise QB."

Do you think Lawrence is franchise?

The point of the conversation is that the last guy is supposed to be legit and a franchise QB.

Baker has been awesome, but I don't think it's a slight or unfair to say that QB's worse than him aren't worth paying/aren't franchise. Heck, Baker took 19th best QB in the NFL money just last year. You can be better than Derek Carr or Andy Dalton and still be the last of the franchise QBs. It just means the tide has risen imo. Darnold feels like he's not it because his career is filled with very bad years. He's more of a 1 year wonder than a franchise QB at this point imo.