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How many days are we removed from you saying Kincaid was the next Kelce? Now Dorian is more talented than Roquan? What is next

Kincaid is going to be 26 next season. For reference, Josh was 26 in the 2022 season. It’s not a lost cause for Kincaid but it’s not “early.”

I find myself getting banned far less when I add a targeted “lol” in my takes to keep it light.

I mean, I think he starts for a lot of teams. You are acting like he’s a total bum. You said he wouldn’t start for “anybody” lol. Hyde and Poyer also got AP nods while they were Bills. I guess the AP just got hoodwinked and they were also trash JAGs.

His biggest weakness is pass protection. It kept him off the field as a rookie and even though he’s improved, it still keeps him off the field.

Taylor Rapp started like the majority of his entire rookie deal in LA lol. Are you joking?

Your elite list would not be mine. You have a good/very good list for the most part. Allen, Brown, Dawkins and maybe Benford. That’s it. James Cook is VERY good and imo still a step behind Henry, Barkley and a healthy CMC. Shakir had 900 yards. Good slot with elite slot traits. Not elite. Taron and Milano are living off their names a little bit. Milano shook off some rust towards the end, but I’m not sure he’s the same guy he was 2 years ago. Ditto with Taron. He got banged up but he’s had probably his worst year as our slot since like 2020.

I think I just did. Now when you do the 2025 annual wAV analysis you can add a disclaimer about how the ProBowl is simultaneously a complete joke and also an integral part of your formula.

I think McD is a better coach than Beane is a GM. And both are good. The problem is that the QB gap between the Bills and the Chiefs is much smaller than the coaching/GM gap. Which is stark. as @GoBills808 said, Beane and McD are lockstep. Beane picks the players but their vision is shared. The roster is 100% overrated on TBD. These folks will argue Allen deserves MVP for dragging a bunch of bums to the AFCCG, then praise the GM for assembling this group. It’s bizarre lol.

Is ProBowl accounted for in AV assessment? Sounds like your AV methodology is cooked.

Our entire UFA group this offseason is a whose who of JAGs that either started or heavily contributed to the Bills this year. Ty, Reggie, Smoot, Toohill, Phillips, QJ, Hamlin lmao. Then you add the older, semi-washed mercenaries like Douglas and Cooper. How many of these dudes are getting a contract of $10M AAV or more? Maybe one? That’s one guy getting the tied for 222nd highest salary in the NFL. Very funny

They were playoff teams both those years FYI.

KC fans and Philly fans are doing just fine without the Bills I think.

We have 2 first round picks, 1 second round pick and a decently priced FA on the line lol. we just need 5 first or second rounders and then maybe it will happen! I hope you’re right. I truly do, especially because they are probably gonna go DL heavy again. But I think you and them will be wrong.

My argument is that we have been there and done that lmao. How many All-Pros and future All-Pros on defense did we have in 2021? How much did it matter? Obviously, NOT AT ALL.

The playoff game vs the Chiefs was the second highest offensive EP of their season. Second only to the Panthers. stop me if you heard this before. The defense sucks in the biggest moments against the Chiefs…. every season. 2024 teams that held the Chiefs to a lower offensive EP than the Bills in the AFCCG: Texans x 2 Bucs Saints Steelers Raiders x 2 Falcons Niners Broncos x2 Chargers x2 Bengals Browns Guess where the 2023 Bills were? Bottom 5. Again. Guess where the 2021 Bills were? Bottom 3. Again. Guess where the 2020 Bills were? Worst defensive performance against the Chiefs the ENTIRE SEASON. So really, what the heck are we talking about? Invest more in defense so we can be more like the 2020-2021 Bills and be terrible like always?

Questions are indefensible? Brother, you could have said, “yeah I do” and made yourself look far less silly lmao.

It’s a message board opinion homie. It’s not that serious, I promise

Seriously though, do you think more defensive-heavy investments are the answer? I don’t think we are ever gonna play a half like the Bengals did in the 2021 AFCCG. We could have Garrett and Crosby, and a good CB to pair with Benford. I don’t think we are ever shutting them down like that. For most of the game last week and when we’ve played KC in the past, we have lived and died with KC’s mistakes and plays that you can’t rely on. Especially because they make less in the postseason. Think of all the big defensive plays the Bills have ever made over the years vs that team. Random unforced Mahomes fumble Random unforced Mahomes overthrow pick Random tipped pass off the receivers’ hands for a pick six when they elevate in the postseason, their dudes are OPEN OPEN. And they routinely make the plays that are there to be made. It would take an entire defensive philosophy shift and a massive infusion of talent to alter that. Neither of which I believe are possible or even likely to happen. We have done the “multiple All-Pros in the back 7” thing. They still dominated on offense. If the argument is we need defensive talent better than those 2020-2021 teams, it’s just not gonna happen outside of pure dumb luck. We would need like a two year Seattle run of multiple defensive All Pros found all over the draft.

Lmao okay. Thanks for your contribution?

Did you think I was a mind reader or maybe I’m a Bills player in disguise?

Most of them tbh. They probably feel that way because they always lose.

That was in 2021 bro. We are heading into 2025.

Where would the Bills be if they weren’t doubling down on overrated players like Eddy O and his 3 sack years. Draft a guy who will be better than Ed and replace him as a pass rusher over a 1T to maximize Ed so he can post another goose egg postseason.