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It’s fine because Diggs’ days were numbered as a high-level WR, extension or no. Ultimately, this team is going to have to reset the WR room multiple times during Josh Allen’s career. Between the market forces and crazy contracts, we are not gonna see high level QB/WR combos play 12 years together probably ever again. When I say it’s fine, I don’t mean that they are without fault or blame. The Diggs extension was an obvious disaster, especially because Beane bent his own negotiation rules to make an exception to Diggs and extend him with 2 years left. But once that mistake has been made, there is no good way to rip off that bandaid. Suffice it to say, even if we drafted 3 WR’s in 2024 (imo we should have drafted 2 at a minimum) the 2024 WR group would’ve still looked significantly weaker. It would still be a down year talent-wise with eyes on the future. But they may have eyes on something like a move for Metcalf prior to 2025 along with a second year Coleman and 4th year Shakir. Thats why it’s so maddening some folks won’t admit we are worse lol. It’s the bare minimum of assessing this group.

To support this point, both Beasley and Brown signed to comparable money to Curtis Samuel under the WR market and cap constraints 5 years ago. if the argument is that Allen can elevate Samuel, I tend to agree (he’s gonna have to as he’s de facto WR1) This whole argument has gotten tiresome. It’s clear to me that the plan was Diggs as WR1 + Samuel/Coleman replacing Davis + Shakir + Kincaid as the target group. Which honestly, wouldn’t have been a terrible plan for the group but it blew up in their face when they decided Diggs had negative value here off the field in 2024. So here we are. They took a talent downgrade to ship Diggs out of town. And that’s honestly fine, if he was a cancer and they have plans to rebuild up the room by 2025. But it’s a short term downgrade and that happens.

I think they will be a WC team year 1 personally. Harbaugh is the perfect shot in the arm coach.

Harbaugh will split with the Chiefs if not sweep them. Book it

This can’t be true. I know this because my good friend just said: Unless I’ve missed something, has Patrick Mahomes not been in/won SB’s? Wouldn’t that better his odds? Is there an active QB in the NFL who has played in more Superbowls? Won more Superbowls? I’m blanking.

The best QBs are usually in/winning SBs. this argument is so funny. You are basically agreeing the Bills SB odds would be higher if Mahomes was the QB because he has been in and won a bunch of SB’s but not because he’s the best QB. Either way, the odds would be better. You admit it. Congrats, you played yourself

Brady played for the Pats, Pats had great odds. Brady left the Pats for the Bucs, Bucs had great odds, Pats had nothing odds. Two Super Bowls ago there was an argument to be had about who was the best QB in football. Someone must’ve changed between now and then but I can’t put my finger on it.

Sure. But two years removed from the last Brady/BB Super Bowl (2020) the Buccaneers were third in the NFL in preseason SB odds. The Pats were 15th. We all know why the Bucs odds jumped and the Pats odds dropped and it sure as hell wasn’t the coach lol Not true, I’m just a bad gambler.

The best QB is the first part of the equation.

“Brady and his team started the season as the betting favorite or co-favorite to win the Super Bowl nine times. Brady ended up winning the Super Bowl in those seasons twice (Super Bowls LI and LIII).” https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/nfl-odds-tom-bradys-career-from-a-sports-betting-perspective Would bet a significant amount of money than no other QB came close during Brady’s career to that number. The best QB is usually favored to win the Super Bowl. This is obvious to anyone without Josh Allen goggles on.

They quietly got better today. We have new guys like Nick Morrow and the other dude whose name I can’t spell yet just oozing with potential.

I wish it wasn’t close because Ed had arrived as an elite pass rusher (not saying he isn’t good but he’s not elite imo). But it isn’t close in 2024 in large part because he honestly has no competition lol. And that’s unique to 2024.

Correct. they have the advantage at HC, QB and roster talent going into 2024. a swap of any of them would increase our odds and decrease theirs. The Bills roster is where the gap has gotten larger in 2024. We had clear “guys” in years past. White, Milano, Hyde, Poyer etc etc. Guys who were high level performers for most of their time here and would be no-brainers on a “who are the 7 best Bills players” list. Going into 2024, in light of the Milano injury, who is the second best player on the team? Ed Oliver maybe? Who is the third best? I think it might be Curtis Samuel? 2024 is proof positive of the talent dearth facing the Bills. This team needs a few draft picks to really pop to get back to where we were in 2020-21.

2.0 means he’s a bit better. He’s still no difference maker at EDGE.

Rousseau is Shaq Lawson 2.0. No need to give him top 20 EDGE money to not rush the passer.

This is the problem with relying on a thirty year old off ball linebacker coming off a major injury as your second best player.

In fairness, I think LJ has a far worse case for best or second best than any of the others.

Probably one maybe.

Unfortunately, you’re sneaky wrong. You can have some concentration drops and not be in danger of losing your job to a 24 year old mid round pick. no one is saying those drops don’t exist. He drops the ball. He’s still had one of the best individual seasons by a running back last year.

Um it’s not like we are a flawless football team.

I think what @GoBills808 is trying to say is: Eagles sneak a lot/use Hurts rushing because it’s a team strength. The Bills sneak a lot/use Josh rushing because they have to.

Come on bro. youre telling me you’re not excited for all the gaslighting by like week 6 that “nobody could have known this group wasn’t gonna be great before the season”?

Corey Davis is a solid comp for Keon Coleman imo.

That’s not goal line passing.

Who could have seen this coming? Yeah 4 of 11 starters on offense (and really 4 of 6 non-OL players) is not 5.6% FYI.