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Easy peasy. LaFleur failed an actual generational talent in Rodgers. Mortified in the postseason 3 years in a row with the 2x or 3x MVP at QB, losing to Jimmy G twice. He also kicked a field goal down 8 instead of going for it in the playoffs in the redzone. Math is hard. Tomlin is a joke. His claim to fame is not being a loser and not being a winner either and winning a Super Bowl when Josh Allen was in middle school. ditto on Ravens Harbaugh, except his team also has gotten mortified in the postseason with 2x MVP Lamar. Is 2-4 in the playoffs good? Stefanski? Bowles? Shouldn’t even dignify those with a response. If you think McD struggles with clock management and when to be aggressive, Todd Bowles is McD with agoraphobia. Payton missed the playoffs three years in a row with an actual generational HoF QB. Talk about wasting talent, that’s much better than losing to the GOAT in the conference in the playoffs. Lmao. He also got 70 pieced this year. Dougie P was a one hit wonder, he’s a competent coach but his team was in the running for the 2 seed with a generational QB and tons of weapons and lost 5/6 including a meaningless game to the Titans to MISS THE POSTSEASON. Coach of the year stuff, I tell ya. Nick Sirianni is going to be fired probably around week 8, and they have made him fire his entire staff because of how bad the Eagles melted down. 10-1 to a first round inglorious exit to the Bucs and the aforementioned horrific Todd Bowles? With a team that talented? Yikes. For McDaniel, you can basically copy paste the Dougie P section, except he’s done it twice. I get it, he’s a good offensive mind, but I think he’s won 2 games after November in 2 seasons? Fumbled the division to the Bills twice? 0-2 in the postseason? Is that the stuff of elite coaching? Yeah, your meter is off.

Why?

These kids are different man. I think that’s part of the reason these old school coaches are less and less popular.

Who can forget Josh’s elite performances carrying us against the Chiefs, Cowboys, Chargers, Pats #2 and Dolphins to close out the year? McD was just along for the ride as our boy was lighting up the scoreboard.

You’re trying too hard to Papa Doc this discussion. The bottom line is the biggest problem for Buffalo, Allen and McD is that they are in the same conference as Mahomes and Reid. If they were an NFC team, they would’ve been in a Super Bowl by now. The floor you are describing of McD that other coaches “could” accomplish says more about the level of competition we face almost every year.

I’d love to see records of other coaches in one score games.

I remember it embarrassing the record setting Broncos in the Super Bowl. I also remember it effectively shutting KC down in the first half until Greenlaw got hurt. my take is just like every other great defensive scheme, it only works if you have the horses. If you have 4 stars, it’s an elite defense. And even still, with offensive holding disappearing in the playoffs, it’s probably not enough to shut down the elite QB’s for long.

Diggs gutted out the ProBowl with his mystery injury.

You’d hope the one involved in a teammates death would have grown up.

Yes, he is.

Agreed. What is more likely? Mahomes retires early or plays til 40? If he gets to 4-5 SB’s over the next 3 years, I could easily see him walking.

“Can’t wait to get back in the lab” January 2024 - February 2024

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but 2015 was now 8 years ago.

No coach in NFL history was coaching up AJ Klein to cover Kelce

I’m talking about the entire game. I don’t think any other QB could’ve outscored Allen that game.

I don’t agree.

To me, does 13 seconds even happen if we aren’t playing Mahomes? I don’t know, but my suspicion is no.

This is hotly debated but I wanna see the thoughts of TBD. Combination of all three as answers is discouraged.

The Aiyuk saga in SF has been very strange. There was a weird period where he was getting benched a few years back and there was whispers about him getting moved because of problems with him and Shanny. That’s quieted down in the last 2 years and his production has exploded as their number one-ish WR. I could see him being moved, but I don’t think it would be for Diggs, especially as Diggs is an unwilling blocker. He has enough production to warrant a first rounder as a starting point in negotiations, I could see them retaining Jennings and jettisoning Aiyuk.

Newton is not the standard, I wasn’t making some grand point besides him having bad weapons in Carolina, and him being a one man offense that season is the reason he won MVP and they went to the SB. He also did not suck in the playoffs that year, he had 4 TD’s in the NFCCG. You have a point IRT FA OL players, but the effort has been there IMO. McGovern was their target this last year and played well enough that there’s not going to be much of an effort to replace him going forward. The year prior they went for Saffold which was a predictable disaster. Daryl Williams prior to that was a high value FA signing that played extremely well his first year here. And you brought up Torrence, Morse and Ford, where they went 2/3. And like I said, they had Dawkins under contract (and Spencer Brown who just had his best year as a pro) so there was no need to make a splash in the OT market. If Cody Ford wasn’t a gigantic bust, or we had kept Wyatt Teller, the Bills would’ve probably had a top 5ish OL year after year around Allen. Despite some of those moves not above working, I think there has been a clear effort demonstrated to shore up OL over the years. When you compare the WR group effort to the OL group effort, particularly since 2020, it’s not close imo. WR has clearly lagged behind.

No, I would say that they have tried to surround Josh with WR talent instead of signing bargain-bin bums. Trying and failing > not trying. I understand that the draft is not a perfect science. That doesn’t mean I can’t critique picks, like Boogie Basham, who imo, had a very low ceiling and I thought the vision was questionable compared to a Greg Rousseau. I also understand that guys like Dyami Brown may have had a different career path with a good QB and not being buried on the depth chart. He’s a fast boundary guy on a team that needed more fast boundary guys. Nico Collins looked like a nobody until Stroud emerged.

I’d rather have all three of those dudes than Trent Sherfield.

Good teams don’t draft a bunch of OG’s high. There’s no reason to draft a bunch of tackles higher than 161 when you are already paying Dawkins big bucks. Cam Newton won his MVP because he was throwing to Ted Ginn and Devin Funchess (along with Greg Olsen who was sneaky a top 3 TE at his peak). Those WR’s were notoriously bad.

DJ Chark (who has had seasons better than Sherfield’s whole career) signed for less than Harty last offseason. Nico Collins was a third rounder in 2021 (we took Boogie for DE depth in the second that year). Do not tell me there was NO opportunity to shore up the boundary WR position in the last 3 seasons besides Kumerow and Harty/Sherfield. It’s not true.

What do you mean there wasn’t much? There wasn’t much better than Trent Sherfield, who is literal end of roster trash? That’s not true.