FireChans

Don’t tell me buddy, tell the oddsmakers in Vegas.

The 12th highest RB salary by AAV in 2023 was $6M. Some folks have not caught on to how long the RB market has gone. The differences in these numbers is pretty meaningless. Murray and Harris cost $3M against the cap and Henry is, at least, twice as good as them combined.

That’s very curious. I hope for your sanity, he doesn’t get moved. We’d be reading about you on the news.

I think you missed the point. they don’t WANT Diggs to be moved. They make comments to that effect, then claim that he CAN’T be moved. It has very little to do with the trade partner take.

When was that video posted? Oh, two days after Kenny boi was shown the door. Lmao. Proved my point for me, thank you for the yellow oval.

Those numbers are straight from Spotrac. The dead money in 2025 for a post 6/1 cut is the same whether he gets cuts post 6/1 or in league year 2025. This is for league year 2024. This is for league year 2025. Per Spotrac, cutting Diggs post 6/1 in 2024 saves us 19M this year, and 5M next year. But no Diggs in 2024, obviously. Cutting Diggs next year saves us no money in 2024, again obviously, and the same 5M next year.

What really turned me off of Cover1 was them carrying water for Dorsey all season pointing to his EPA/play etc etc; until he got fired, then doing a complete 180 and talking about how had a lack of feel for calling a game, and calling a series and the chess match stuff. Neither take is necessarily bad (despite my personal opinions) but I find very little value in takes that change with the wind. If they lack conviction, then they are just saying stuff they think people want to hear. This calls their objectivity into question. Even in their Diggs' contract takes (which I begrudgingly listened to), they start off talking about how he still has value, how he's still a WR1, how they think he's very valuable to the Bills, then talk about how his contract is "unmovable." Are they saying that because they actually believe it, or because they want it to be true? Once that question needs to be asked, you aren't worth my time.

Finally, someone recognizes genius.

Not to sound arrogant, but I don’t find those guys to have as trustworthy opinions as others do.

03/17/2024 → 6/1/2024 2024 Dead Cap: $49,596,000 2024 Cap Savings: $-21,742,000 Post 6/1 release: 2024 Dead Cap: $8,849,0002025 Dead Cap: $22,247,0002024 Cap Savings: $19,005,000 they make a special point to delineate the 2024 salary guaranteeing on 3/17 but still giving the 6/1 date after. So….

Spoilers: the dude who had to change schools because he couldn’t beat out JAKE FROMM may not be any good.

I wouldn’t call the bolded “terrible.” Terrible would be like Diggs turned out to be Zay Jones with less fighting for Jesus. You give them reasons to move on. In the form of compensation. In a trade.

Look at post 6/1.

My barometer for “was this a good decision” is not “did we win a Super Bowl.” Because if that’s you’re barometer, then Clyde Edwards Helaire was a great draft pick and the Josh Allen pick was not a success.

there is a difference in 2024 money saved. Not 2025

The only one being definitive is you lol. I haven’t seen a single person say that Diggs is definitely going to be moved this off-season. This is probably why you keep getting sucked into talking about it. Someone says, “it’s possible” and you fly off the handle a bit arguing about why it’s NOT POSSIBLE. In a fun “trade for Terry McLaurin” thread.

Was the Diggs trade not smart? The Jets and Dolphins crumbled because their QB’s ain’t it. The Rams won the Super Bowl with the top heaviest roster in NFL history.

McLaurin, if traded, is going to cost Washington $16.8M against their cap in dead money. I don’t think he is have a cap hit of $18.5M for the team trading for him. He could walk after 2025. Or demand out sooner, because he hates it there. Diggs got out of his first stop with more years on his deal. To be clear, if I was Washington, I wouldn’t trade him. But bad franchises gonna bad franchise. So, “they wouldn’t want to do that” doesn’t fly as an argument for me lol.

That’s what it’s saying, yeah. Now that I do the math in my head, it may be less. But it is workable, with savings. Old enough to not be in their five year plan, particularly with contract renegotiations around the corner. He also may plan on walking because he probably hates it there?

I find that spotrac is the most accurate website IRT cap intricacies and they say the numbers are absolutely clear that we can move off from Diggs this year and make financial sense doing so. His salary becoming completely guaranteed on 3/17 is actually noted on their website. Prior to 3/17, we lose 3M against the cap to cut him. After 3/17, we lose 21M to cut him. After 6/1, we save 19M in 2024 to cut him. Post 6/1 releases effectively spread the dead cap over two seasons, which is why it’s more affordable, however it means you are still taking on the same hit in the next year, i.e. the 2025 hit remains the same regardless if he is cut post 6/1 in 2024 or early in 2025. So anyone saying it makes sense to do it in 2025 but not post 6/1 2024 is 100% completely wrong, because the cap savings in 2025 are the same So, unfortunately, 3/17 ain’t gonna change anything lol.

Does that change his post 6/1 designation money?

We talk a lot about DHop, about Evans, about all these older dudes. Let’s talk about some younger WR’s who have to be sick wasting their careers away. Terry will be 29 years old in the upcoming season. He is entering the last year of his “big” contract before the potential out. And he is an “old guard” player with new and shiny head coach Dan Quinn taking the reins. If traded pre 6/1, he will have a cap hit of $7M to his new team, which is relatively cheap. With Stef on his way out potentially next year, this sets Josh up with an “in his prime” WR ready to take over as WR1. Stef could also be included in the package, but then we would be talking post 6/1 otherwise the financials get wonky. Is he intriguing? Is he an upgrade over $10M AAV for a Mooney or Curtis Samuel? His price tag may be as high as a first or a second and other stuff.

How does it cost us extra money to do it this year? My understanding is that, on the whole, it saves us more money to get it done this year.