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I enjoy watching Josh every weekend, and I’m very grateful that we have the second best QB in the league. The potential for hope and heartbreak is what makes sports so special. Josh will get one. Bills football hasn’t been this entertaining since 1993, and our chances of winning a title have never been higher. This is the run you will remember forever and you should enjoy it while we have it.

Oh the IRONY lmao.

Andy Reid didn’t have to face Brady in the same conference, much like Shanny doesn’t have to face Mahomes now. Andy lost to Kerry Collins, Kurt Warner, Brad Johnson, Jake Delhomme, Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers in the postseason. Some great names in there, and also some not so great names. Marvin Lewis lost to Matt Schaub, Phil Rivers, Andrew Luck, Big Ben when Andy Dalton was a starter in the NFL. McD and Allen have lost to Mahomes 3 times and Burrow once (since Josh has been a franchise QB). Shanny has lost to Brady (as OC) Mahomes, Mahomes, Hurts (when his QB got hurt). your Marvin Lewis comparison fits far more to pre-Mahomes Andy than McD. Shanny and McD are the better comparison. Losing to the greatest QB in the generation isn’t a crime. We face them before an NFC team ever will. Losing to Jake Delhomme and Brad Johnson and Kerry Collins? Man, you’d have burned McD’s house down if he did that.

What % of punts does a punter actually do in game time situations? 1%? Less?

Not really a wash. It was probably, statistically, the most impactful defensive play of the entire game by both teams. Chris Jones causing an errant throw on second down in the redzone is the “game-sealing play?” What is this madness?

Poyer forced a fumble out of the end zone that saved the game from being a blowout and cost the Chiefs 7 points.

We would all agree that Brock Purdy has a chance to win the Super Bowl but didn’t play well enough to get it done? Missed a couple plays that would’ve changed the game? Why can we not use that same criteria for Allen? It all comes down to that fundamental flawed assumption. “He’s just as good, if not the better QB than Pat.” So Allen can’t be criticized in that same way, I guess. I will continue to live in the world where Patrick Mahomes almost ALWAYS delivers and that’s what makes him the best. Namely, reality. Ya’ll can continue to believe that Allen also does (despite what our eyes tell us). I wonder what Saints message boards were like when Brees and Brady were at their peak. “Brees is just as good if not better than Brady, there’s just a coaching discrepancy! The team isn’t good enough, they have Gronk and we only have Jimmy Graham!” Now of course, we can all admit that Brady was just a better QB. I’m sure even Saints fans admit it now. It’s hard being second best.

That’s true. There is a fair amount of luck involved. It’s hard to win championships. There’s also an aspect of when you’re the best, you sometimes just need to not beat yourselves. You can create your own luck. Folks that believe the NE dynasty and the Chiefs dynasty is “just” luck, are completely wrong imo. But luck certainly helps. Which is why the Chiefs lost their 1 SB and Brady/BB lost 3.

Nah, I think we keep scratching and clawing and trying to get better (with a pinch of draft luck) and try to beat them or hope we catch some breaks and not have to face them at all. I don’t think we can NEVER win. We just have to get lucky, and a team with a good coach (but not the best) and a great QB (but not the best) is going to need luck to break through. Mahomes can win 10 for all I care, I just want one. I am past the point of caring if Josh Allen goes down as the greatest QB in the history of QB’s. There’s some weird obsession with trying to wish Josh into being a better QB than Pat but that race is long over.

I think he’s a good coach. Honestly a great coach. I also know he wasn’t “good enough” before he got the best QB in football. If the Bills had the best QB in football and couldn’t beat them, I would be yelling fire McD with the rest of ya.

Two of the best HC’s in football. Looks good to me!

Let’s play a quiz game. Which coach is being referred to with these quotes? “Whenever I think of ****, I think of Bill Cowher. People were so critical of Cowher not being able to win the big one, yet he was the head coach for 14 years in PIT and did a damn fine job with only a single SB appearance prior to his last season. Before 2005, his last season, he had only four losing seasons, five AFC Championship appearances, and the one Super Bowl appearance, losing to Dallas in 1995. Yet his reputation was a good coach who couldn't win when it counted.” “*** i think is a very good coach Monday thru Saturday, but awful coach on Sunday...and for the last couple of years has had some incredible puck luck during the season.” “Hes another Chuck Knox, Marty Schottenheimer type. Beats bad teams all the time, loses the 5 or 6 toughies ends up 10-6 11-5 if the schedule smiled on him and exits when the playoffs start. If your not making the playoff he will get you there almost guaranteed then the frustration is your really not going anywhere and guess what they are not making the super bowl this year either” ”Have you watched him coach… in the playoffs? It's very entertaining. He's saves his best game day mismanagement for those games.” “He's a modern day Marty Schottenheimer, IMO. Solid but not spectacular. Very good regular season coach who usually fields a good, competitive squad but can't get over the hump in the playoffs.” If you guessed, “Andy Reid before he got the greatest QB in football,” you’re right! Johnny, tell them what they’ve won!

McD and Mahomes for sure.

It makes tremendous sense when you think about it. This fan base believes, by and large, believes that Josh Allen is at least Patrick Mahomes’ equal, maybe even better. Working off that assumption, they had to find other reasons why we haven’t had the same success as the Chiefs. First it was the weapons. “Give Josh Hill and Kelce!” “Sammy Watkins is their WR4!” Then Kelce got old and Hill got shipped out and that narrative had to die because they won two more. Now the only thing they have left is Reid. A guy who was a notorious choke artist for the first 20 or so years coaching. Never won the big one with talent at QB. Was clowned for a decade about sucking at clock management. Was a perennial first round exit in KC with a very talented roster. But of course, now he’s an elite coach. The upper echelon crust. And it can’t be because he has the current greatest QB in football. So really, the difference has to be Reid vastly outperforming McD. They ignore things they see with their own eyes (Harbaugh and Tomlin unable to win playoff games without elite QB play, BB’s Pats being a shell of themselves post Tom Brady, Arians winning an SB with the GOAT after failing to amount to much with Carson Palmer in Arizona.) It MUST be coaching.

They signed Knox two seasons ago. Did you think they should’ve thought, “we shouldn’t sign Knox in case there’s a first round TE we draft next year because all of the good WR’s are gone?”

Honest question, did our WR’s struggle against man coverage that much this year? So much so that it was a more primary way of defending us? To my eye, I didn’t see more than normal amounts of man coverage in 2023. I would also be interested in knowing where Diggs, Kincaid and Shakir ranked in a list like this, but obviously they aren’t UFAS. It’s unsurprising Gabe was low.

Now I see why you were a Kincaid truther from the jump!

Dude those are photos FROM Spotrac. Lol. Just go to the page. I just cut them out so you can look at the numbers and see for yourself. The numbers are clear on the website. $19M in cap savings this season does make financial sense. $5M in savings next season makes less sense, but as that’s the same kind of savings we’d get moving on in 2025 anyway, it’s kinda moot.

1. I could see $6M base with up to 8M with incentives 2. I would sign him $6M base with up to 8M with incentives, add a void year to bring his cap number down.

Just so I don’t have to repeat myself.

I don’t think there’s a chance he sees north of 8M. 10.3M is the near the franchise tag salary for an RB and would cement Henry as the 7th highest paid back in the NFL. I disagree he will see that money north of 30. Hell, the Titans are paying him 12.5M, why cut him at all if that’s his market value? Also, FWIW, the Spotrac market value stuff is really off. It’s probably the least accurate thing the site supports.

What is the price tag you expect?

We need good players.

Did you notice you mentioned a bunch of old dudes? It’s because none of our drafted players have been good enough, which is why these ancient players have been brought in.

Tom Pelissero agrees. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2877076-stefon-diggs-trade-rumors-odds-of-vikings-trading-star-wr-are-pretty-long.amp.html He said this is just Diggs being Diggs.