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Well the hope is that Palmer had a Darnell Mooney type e v a l when it came to play vs production. I think Mooney produced more in a single season, but he was coming off back to back 400 yard seasons and still had a pretty good market last year. Watching a lot of Bears games told me that he was really held back by the system and QB and I thought he was gonna be a steal. Obviously Palmer wasn’t held back by his QB as much as Mooney was but still. Maybe he can be an 800-900 yard guy. I’m not in love with the signing, because I think where the WR market has the worst talent meets pay intersection is the middle tier guys but maybe he surprises us.

Josh Palmer was your #1 offseason WR target? I think that may be enough to diagnose you with Stockholm syndrome

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How does this affect the Ottawa Redblack Grey Cup odds?

All you need to ask yourself about this signing is: 4th and 10 vs the Chiefs in crunch time. Do we want Josh throwing the ball to Josh Palmer?

I’ll tell you, I’m getting more nervous.

Yes without debate. It was the second most impact a singular addition had on wins of Beane’s career, second only to Josh. Is JJ even there if teams know we are WR needy in the first? Maybe, maybe not. If he is there, do we even take him? Maybe, maybe not. If we take JJ instead have the same or better impact? Maybe. We’ll never know. What we do know is that trading for Diggs is second in “wins added” CLEARLY imo. I don’t think you can make a reasonable debate for any other single player outside of Josh in Beane’s tenure, but you are welcome to try.

I don’t hate it but I find it hard to love tbh.

@Magox are we starting to get a little nervous?

Man the FA market is getting thin. are teams wising up to the cap going up every year?

The Diggs trade is legitimately the second best move of Beane’s entire tenure. Second only to the Allen pick. Without debate.

I think there’s far more pressure to extend Cook now than 2 days ago

I don’t know what to tell you. No one is saying Bernard isn’t good or Greg sucks because they aren’t game-wreckers. But you agree that Beane’s #1 weakness is finding that blue chip guy WORTH $30M on both sides of the ball, yes? And you also think that McD/Beane excel at finding late round gems that can be plus starters, especially on defense, yes? So when we extend good, but not great players, and limit our ability to get a proven blue chip guy worth $30M, that’s probably a problem, yes? Especially when we already KNOW that McD/Beane can draft and develop late round talent? It’s really simple. I have the utmost confidence that Beane and McD could find the NEXT Terrell Bernard or Greg Rousseau in the draft. I truly do. I have next to zero confidence they can find a blue chip guy in the draft. So, to me, the easiest answer is to dedicate resources to filling THAT hole and then fill in the rest with your draft picks. Tell Beane to stop making the same mistakes every offseason and I promise I will stop complaining about them.

I mean, if you can’t see the cognitive dissonance between 1. “Rousseau and Bernard are good but they need good players around them,” 2. “It’s good that we extended them at high numbers.” 3. “Beane hasn’t done a good enough job” I really don’t know what to tell you lol.

Well apparently we just locked up another couple of defensive cornerstones in Greg Rousseau and Terrell Bernard, and are probably about to lock up Benford. After of course locking up Oliver. And we’ll probably spend two of our top 4 picks on defensive players, and we of course spent 2 of our top 3 picks last year on defense. Maybe one day we will get enough around him.

Well if Bill Belichick and his defenses are walking through that door, we are having a different conversation imo.

Yeah and they went to the Super Bowl that year. Wouldn’t that be kinda nice?

Um they traded a first round pick for AJ Brown.

You better be right, because if you are wrong, I’m going to be mercilessly petty about this thread lol.

Yup. He will probably have a cap hit of $10M year one. Tough day.

The Seahawks are tanking for the first overall pick I think.

Which may be meaningless depending on guarantees. Seeing as they haven’t been reported, I doubt he got over $100M guaranteed

Josh Allen took a paycut so Beane could extend Greg Rousseau lol.

Someone please show this tweet to James’ agent.

Imagine if one of those picks was good enough to command $30M per year. I shudder at the thought