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Being a top 3 team in scoring. Does it matter how we do it?
FireChans replied to PrimeTime101's topic in The Stadium Wall
I’m saying they could easily have done both. They will also likely still try to do both. The Bills have 3 picks in the first two rounds. They will likely use one, maybe the first or maybe one of the seconds on an offensive player, like a WR. So again, the argument comes down to what’s a better plan? Fixing the defense and improving the offense with 3 draft picks vs fixing the defense and improving the offense with 2 draft picks and DK? Obviously plan #2 -
DK for 2nd and 4th of course. that’s not really the point in this topic though. The point is that extending those players at this point isn’t really upgrading the team. It’s keeping the team the team together.
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I think Cooper helped the offense significantly too. Not as much as we hoped but hey.
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He was really good in 23 and helped save the season and was horrible in 2024. Ultimately it’s hard to fault the trade as we are trying to win. Doing everything safe with a 10 year plan doesn’t work.
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Being a top 3 team in scoring. Does it matter how we do it?
FireChans replied to PrimeTime101's topic in The Stadium Wall
Nice retort. I must have really put you in a pretzel with that last one. It really sucks when it makes so much sense and there’s nothing you can do about it. I feel it all the time. -
Being a top 3 team in scoring. Does it matter how we do it?
FireChans replied to PrimeTime101's topic in The Stadium Wall
Fair, but I would say more often than not Josh delivers in the playoffs. He isn’t Peyton or Lamar. Also, he’s so good that you can’t reasonably expect or want to upgrade. He’s elite. I wouldn’t trade him for anyone. But there’s a way to help him be even better. And when he makes a miracle 1 of 1 pass on 4th down with the game on the line, maybe getting him a pass catcher to help make the play is one of those ways. Maybe being up 10 points instead of down 3 with 3 minutes to go makes the point moot as well. I don’t feel like any of this stuff is that radical tbh. -
Being a top 3 team in scoring. Does it matter how we do it?
FireChans replied to PrimeTime101's topic in The Stadium Wall
Benford was already on the team in 2025. Maybe the cap goes up another $25M like it does every year and it would make no difference at all? I mean hoping for a starter/contributor in the draft vs getting a proven one is an easy answer. I would take DK over the rookie contributions from AJE, Ford, Boogie, Bishop, Cook, OCT etc etc all day every day. Obviously. Y’all are hoping the next draft pick saves the defense. Or the next middle class FA DL player. Maybe it will. But it probably won’t. Just like the last dozen haven’t. This is the false choice that I’m talking about though. We could have 8 picks in the 2025 draft to pick defensive or offensive players AND DK Metcalf AND Benford on the Bills in 2025. trading for DK doesn’t mean that you can’t take 2 defensive players in the first 3 rounds. It doesn’t mean Benford is playing in a different uniform in September. You keep incorrectly framing it that way. I think it’s a Beane defense mechanism lol. Score more points than them and it doesn’t matter. Score at the end when Kincaid couldn’t catch a pass that hit his hands and it doesn’t matter. -
The problem is certainly not with the retentions on their face. I would say that easily 90% of this board agrees that Benford’s extension was a good deal for Buffalo. Their issue is that it’s being spun as we could only sign the PED crew and Josh Palmer because we HAD to pay Benford, Bernard etc etc. Which is not only not true, it makes those extensions seem worse if that was the cost associated with them.
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Being a top 3 team in scoring. Does it matter how we do it?
FireChans replied to PrimeTime101's topic in The Stadium Wall
DK Metcalf. Do you remember Josh going 9 for 30 against the Texans? -
Being a top 3 team in scoring. Does it matter how we do it?
FireChans replied to PrimeTime101's topic in The Stadium Wall
Nothing and no one is a lock to make clutch plays. Josh Allen isn’t a lock to make clutch plays, but I would take him over the field, wouldn’t you? Doesn’t that make him the next best thing? I find this take very odd tbh. Do you have a method for “locks” to make clutch plays? Or a method to improve our luck? If so, can you please tell One Bills Drive before I die? -
Being a top 3 team in scoring. Does it matter how we do it?
FireChans replied to PrimeTime101's topic in The Stadium Wall
Nothing guarantees you a playoff berth much less a playoff win. like @Dr. Who said, you can’t control for luck, so what are you supposed to do? the answer is do your best to make luck irrelevant. Or the refs irrelevant. Or injuries irrelevant. -
Problem with this strategy is that if Cook hits FA and gets a big deal, he may contribute a 3rd or 4th in a comp pick. Does it make sense to sell him during a hold out for 2 fifth’s? one of the einstein’s, either @Einstein's Dog or @Einstein is right. If Beane thinks this is heading to a hold out, get rid of him now.
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None of those players were FAs haha. Probably 90% of the money spent by Beane this offseason was keeping pieces of that 2024 roster through 2026 and beyond. Not improving the 2025 roster. I like the Benford deal. I’m ambivalent on the Bernard deal. I don’t like the Rousseau deal. I like the Shakir deal. I think if you told the board heading into FA that our big offseason moves were going to be big money extensions to 4 existing players, a moderate overpay for Josh Palmer, a one year deal for Joey Boss and then rotation guys, it would be received with massive disappointment tbh.