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Would’ve been upset at the refs but wouldn’t blame them-I would blame Daboll for a poor offensive plan, blame Frazier for a bad defensive scheme, blame the players foe terrible execution....I just think blaming the refs is just lazy

Look we are in agreement about the fumble, that was definitely a fumble-I don’t know how that call doesn’t get overturned. That being said, and maybe it’s a matter or semantics or interpretation, when I see or hear someone say a team had to beat the refs as well as the other team-to me that person is saying the refs are intentionally making calls against one team and completely favor of another team on a consistent basis throughout the game. The refs called pretty much no penalties all game. I find it hard to believe that in either side there wasn’t a single hold along the offensive line. They mentioned the delay of game thing on multiple occasions throughout the game and the network ref also said that those wouldn’t be called delay of game. I wanted them to be called for sure, but you do see it a lot when the ball is hiked just after the clock hits zero. For the most part I think the refs called the game fairly, meaning even for both sides. I’m going to venture a guess though and say that you and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one though

So I do think the Bills defense is significantly improved since the beginning of the year, but there’s also context that goes with some of those early games. In the Rams game it is obvious they took their foot off the gas on both sides of the ball when they were up by 25, then didn’t know how to put their foot back on the gas when it got close. The Seahawks game was never close-Russ and co. got a lot of their yards and points in garbage time type situations. This is not to excuse those defensive performances, you have to play well for 60 minutes, but there is certainly context that you are leaving out. As you could see later in the year, particularly those last 4 or 5 games the zbills didn’t let up on offense or defense so they clearly learned from those earlier games

So I’m going to nitpick because I agree with everything else, but outside of the fumble, how were the refs against the Bills? I just don’t like this thinking because absolutely every fan base thinks the refs have been told to screw over their team. I’m sure if you looked on a colts discussion board their fans are saying the refs were against them too. Saying the refs are against your team is a weak and lazy argument. Like I said, just nitpicking but I think fans need to be better than that

I wouldn’t say it’s embarrassing but it definitely did look like a fumble

Haha I love how people are already jumping to “oh man, Josh is just too amped up, he needs to settle down” 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

People gotta stop saying this, this is absolutely untrue! Will they be able to re-sign everyone they want? No, but that’s always been the case. There are always ways to move around money to pay the guys you want to pay, and that’s what good GM’s do. Look at KC, Seattle, Baltimore, New Orleans, New England-these guys sign their own and all have multiple big contract guys. Let Josh get paid what he is worth and let the front office do their job and make the salary cap work. Paying Josh less than what he is worth makes the organization look cheap and players don’t want to play for a cheap organization.

But it’s not like the team released this information today, the media did

Why does it matter if this information is released today? Josh and his reps will already know this information, it’s not new to them

If he was a real team player he would sign a 10 year, $10 million contract

I’m having major flashbacks to the whole Doug Flutie/Rob Johnson debacle

What’s I retesting is that they say Josh lost it because of his injury and play during the middle of the year, which is when the Bills arguably played their worst football....so the QB starts playing worse and the team plays worse, then the QB gets much better and the team gets much better. Obviously it’s not a direct correlation, but that sounds like an MVP to me

I don't know, he's not raising his knees as high as everyone else.....trying to decide if they should sit him this week or just cut him entirely....

I think you need to choose a different guy-let me preface this by saying I don’t like Hill, I think he is a piece of crap human being, but to say he wouldn’t make it out of OTA’s is a little too “looking back with rose colored glasses” for me. He is probably the fastest guy in the league-he wouldn’t put up the stats he does now but that dude is making the team and flying right past each corner in the league back then without breaking too much of sweat. i think some of you are forgetting another reason why they started changing the rules is because those guys were getting to a point of not playing football...grabbing the receiver the entire way down the field, taking cheap shot after cheap shot when guys went over the middle (even when they didn’t have the ball) or hitting quarterbacks way late. It’s like the argument with basketball in the 90’s-they changed the rules so guys could actually move and play offense because what those guys were playing then wasn’t defense. Completely different conversation, but no one can honestly say they watched a basketball game in the 90’s and said “man that Charles Oakley plays really good defense”

Josh Rosen says hello

Wait hold on, you're saying that a team that won 11 games and is in the playoffs has fans that think they will win on Saturday?!?!? That's preposterous!!!

I get the sentiment to vote for Rivera because of what he is going through and that should get him some 2nd or 3rd place votes, but a coach with a losing record should not win coach of the year. Congrats, you took a terrible team and made them slightly less terrible...to me this feels like another situation where they are moving the goal posts to make up reasons not to give to to McDermott

But that’s the great thing about this team-the players don’t have that at all. Besides Hughes, are there any guys left from the Rex years (how long has Ferguson been on the team)? These guys know winning Buffalo Bills football. I’m really excited to see what these guys do next week

Yeah...really Tua’d that one 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

The Bills are the 2 seed and currently the most entertaining team in the league-definitely not getting that 1 pm Or 4pm Saturday slot

FIFY

Stats without context is how good analysis is done these days apparently. It’s more important to get the stats out there to fit your narrative than it is to be thorough. People care about being first, they don’t care about the holes in their argument. Stats are the reason why Mahomes was considered the favorite foe so long this year for MVP. I think Mahomes is an amazing QB and deserves the praise he gets, but pretty much any QB is going to put up amazing numbers with the weapons they have on that offense

Wait hold on-you guys are saying that someone can get better after their second year in the league?!?! I have personally read on this board that is impossible!

You would think of all fan bases that Bills fans would try to avoid just believing the narratives that are put out against quarterbacks. I do believe that Josh is much better than Lamar and I think that Lamar can struggle if he needs to bring a team back, but the guy is a good quarterback

Oh I yelled at the tv just like everyone else did and I know there has been talk about his other plays, I was just making commentary about how there’s just way too much focus on his mistakes. Especially for what he is getting paid and the fact that it’s only his second year, the guy is playing pretty well...definitely gives a dimension to the offense that quite frankly none of the other tight ends give