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6 minutes ago, Doc said:
Gesicki has almost 150 more yards than Kincaid and the same number of TDs. And their RB Brown has (slightly) more yards rushing and receiving but 6 fewer TDs.
This MVP has taken so many weird turns. We have now reached the point where people feel the need to make sure to downgrade as many Bills as possible
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5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Gibbs is tearing it up
same for Peyton ManningPeyton would’ve succeeded anywhere. He made a lot of guys much better than they actually were
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They wait until they see what the matchups are. A Bills/Bengals matchup will get a prime time spot while a Bills/Broncos matchup probably gets Sunday 1pm treatment
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23 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Not contradicting myself at all. The player’s responsibility is to play as hard as possible and in any event it’s hard to avoid doing that given the physical intensity and violence of an NFL game. A coach needs to focus on the big-picture outlook for the organization and do what is strategically wisest for his employer. Do not be surprised if Drake Maye sits next week.
Again, you are getting the coach and the GM mixed up. If a coach isn’t putting his players in a position to win on a weekly basis, that’s a bad coach and I guarantee you that guy will lose the locker room. The GM/front office/ownership/fans might have wanted the Giants to lose, but a coach will never want to lose
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2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
No, not Lock or Nabers. You misunderstood completely what I wrote. Daboll was selfish. Players are obviously going to play hard. It's the coaches who have the ability to dictate how the game will be played.
Also, again, I guarantee you that virtually all Giants fans agree with me.
There’s a misunderstanding because your statements contradict each other. Calling a coach selfish because he won a game but not the players doesn’t make sense. It’s obvious you are only looking at this from a fan’s POV and not a coach or player. Of course the fans want to see losses at this point, but as someone who WILL get another job in the league, why would Daboll do anything but try to win games? He’s not going to sabotage future interviews and job employment and intentionally lose games
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1 hour ago, Gregg said:
If the Bengals somehow get into the playoffs (I don't think they will) then Burrow will get serious consideration for the MVP, and he will deserve it. He would be right there with Allen, Jackson, and Barkey.
I know the MVP is essentially a stats award, but it’s not completely a stats award. You can’t have the MVP of the league be on the 14th best team in the league, your stats have to contribute to the team consistently winning
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6 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:
You should watch more football then
Start with the Bucs sitting their starters in the final game 6 years ago to get 1st crack at Jameis in the draft. Its not debatable. Clear tank. The Colts/Rams game prior to Luck draft also obvious.
Players not trying i've never seen, but fielding a less than optimal team to get a QB that might be your ticket to a dozen years of playoff appearances is another story.
But those aren’t coach or player decisions. Those are GM owner decisions. Organizations might want to tank, but coaches and players don’t
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Why do you say it’s looking like the Dolphins? It’s still very firmly looking like the Broncos. Dolphins need them to lose AND they need to win their last game with potentially a back up QB
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3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Come on. The Giants season is OVER, and they get absolutely zilch for winning. The only valuable commodity they get for being abjectly terrible all year is incredibly valuable draft capital — and the first pick in every round is as valuable as it gets in that realm. Coaches are members of larger organizations, and they have a responsibility to that organization to look past the shiny object in front of them — an utterly meaningless win — and focus on how they can help make the organization that employs them better for the long term. There is only path for that, and it ain’t winning a game in week 17 that gets you to 3-13.
I also *guarantee* you that pretty much every Giants fan agrees with me. As would every Jets fan who remembers missing out on Trevor Lawrence and settling for Zach Wilson. Lawrence is good-not-great but certainly possesses franchise-level talent. Zach Wilson is an absolute bust.
The fact that NFL coaches aren’t “wired that way” (ie, accepting that it’s ok to figure out how to lose without it being blatantly obvious) is frankly their problem. I suspect Mayo will put his own interest above his employer’s next week, but perhaps he’ll surprise me.
Those coaches and players are potentially auditioning for 31 other teams. They are going to play hard so perhaps a team like Buffalo/KC/Baltimore will perhaps sign them. Plus if Daboll knows he is in his way out, don’t you think he wants to stick it to the Giants?
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Just now, dave mcbride said:
The Giants’ victory today was a fireable offense for Daboll — totally selfish, and I mean that. It calls to mind the Jets beating the Rams in 2020, which caused them to lose Trevor Lawrence for Zach Wilson.
Are the Patriots a smarter organization than the Giants?This is why you would be never allowed anywhere near an NFL field. At no point does a coach and players ever want to lose a game
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3 minutes ago, 90sBills said:
The rest of the NFL didn’t lose to Houston and Baltimore. Bills did. That’s what cost them the #1 seed. Every year it’s a loss here and there that leaves them short of the #1 seed.Just think about what you’re saying here. I would’ve taken LITERALLY the first ever 16-1 regular season in the history of the NFL to get the 1 seed and there are 6 pages of people crushing McDermott for it. People need to get a grip
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59 minutes ago, BillsMontreal said:
You got it. They won the games they had to win against teams with losing record.
The Bills are 3-3 against teams with a winning record.
It's a great season in terms of Win-Lose...and now, they have to beat those winning teams 3 times in a row only to be in the Big show and 4 games in a row to win it.
Having a 14 or 15 wins in a season is absolutely great. But, a 1-1 or even 2-1 in playoffs isnt enough with the QB and the offense we have.
It's all about expectations.
With a QB like Allen, we never know. Our conservative HC will have to not try to slow down our offense to help our defense. If our offense can score at will against those kind of teams, let them score. If we have to win, it will be by our offense. Let them score. Fast or not, let them score like they want to.
I dont want to lose because our offense has to slow down because the defense needs help. I want to see them playing to win.
I dont trust that bend but dont break at all against a good QB, a good offense and i just hope they could help our offense a little when they will need it.
Let see in a couple of weeks.
Go Bills.
Ah yes, the old conservative coach trope. Even though he goes for it on 4th down more than almost any coach, the team averages over 30 points a game, etc. Do you actually watch the games?
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2 minutes ago, zow2 said:
For me, it's all of the above as well. If you choose to go vanilla, then you still have to execute, and they didn't. You just get the sense sometimes that when the Bills start to "feel" themselves and read the press clippings, they play as if they can roll out of bed at home in front of the Mafia and get an automatic W. And we saw that against the Pats in the first half. If they want to take week 18 off against NE that's fine, as long as they put out max effort against the Jets.
What are you talking about? What have the Bills ever said/done in the McDermott era that would make you think this? If you need to tell yourself this to make you feel better that’s fine, but this is going way overboard in terms of reading into a situation.
How have people still not figured out this is a week to week league and one week/game has no bearing on how the next week will go for any team
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Am I late to the game here? Why have so many threads lately needed with Belinda?
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4 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:
Not sure how I would rank these so mine is in no official order but these are definitely the Top 4
2007- Giants at Bills Freezing rain game
2007 Bills at Browns Whiteout Game
2021 Patriots at Bills MNF Wind Game
2021 Patriots at Bills Sub Below Temperature
Was thinking about this topic earlier from some discussion I saw on Twitter and after careful thought these would be my Top 4 but then I thought about how it was interesting how each pair came from the same season and relatively close to each other. The Giants and Browns games were back to back weeks.
That Giants/Bills game was definitely awful. The wind and rain made it impossible to watch the game. It’s the only game my wife has ever been to-she made us leave at halftime. Only time I’ve ever left a game early. By the time we made it back to get parents House it was snowing so I was actually really happy we left
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2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:
yep, same story year in and out with losses to demonstrably inferior teams costing the Bills the 1 seed
So just wondering, if we looked back through your posts before the season, did you predict the Bills going 16-1?
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3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Lamar clear MVP after today. Allen and the Bills will likely struggle against the Jets as usual and maybe Allen doesn't play against Pats week 18. No 1 seed, no MVP, divisional round beat down up next. Just a typical year for the 2020's Bills. The new drought.
Cool story-there’s room on the chiefs and ravens bandwagons, I hear Detroit’s is filling up but if you go quickly you can still get on theirs. See ya
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1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:
What is similar between 29 TD and 18 INTs vs 38 TD's and 4 INT's?
Need to ends this now. It's not meant for this talk.
You wrote 44 TD wrong
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8 minutes ago, skibum said:
I hate to say it, but it looks like it will be good for the Bills to win one more. They can probably manage a few selective rest games for banged-up starters who have competent backups, but I don't see them benching all the 1s until the #2 seed is safe. Josh is playing until then, too.
Hopefully the Jets are playing for their draft pick this weekend and we can earn a bye week for the starting lineup.
You do know that this actually isn’t a thing right? The coaches and players aren’t playing to intentionally lose, that would be idiotic
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8 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:
IF he puts up big numbers.
Why? Lamar isn’t putting up huge numbers so far this game
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Just now, streetkings01 said:
Stats and he has the head to head over Allen. 37 touchdown passes with 4 picks looks like MVP status to me!
8 straight games of 30+ points, 2-0 against the top teams in each conference, those teams are 16-1 against everyone else, Baltimore lost to 2 teams battling for the top pick in the draft. It’s not as if Lamar is leading the league in the major passing categories, they are just higher than Josh. And good job clarifying touchdown passes, because when you go to overall touchdowns all of a sudden Lamar doesn’t have a very big lead at all
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2 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:
Josh Allen is my QB but LJ should get MVP again.
But why? Bills were supposed to be third in the division by many before the season, fighting for a playoff spot. Baltimore was supposed to be battling KC for the top spot in the AFC. So this tells me you are looking at nothing but stats
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Just now, boyst said:
It's weird how so many of us, probably a majority of us, dislike them far more than we ever did the Patriots.
Well most of us hated the Pats because they were in the same division and dominated, but the Bills never stood a chance against them. We hated the Chiefs because they are the 1 team standing in the way of the Bills going to/winning a Super Bowl. That wasn’t the case ever with the Patriots
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You play the starters as long as whatever seed they are is still in doubt. A second home game is incredibly valuable, and you can’t sit the guys for too long
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Pro Bowl Voting
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So the Ravens have 9 pro bowlers and the Bills have 2. Interesting…