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You know that guys are allowed to be good players even without a Super Bowl win, right?

Not an expert, but from what I have read/heard the difference between what the Bengals are doing and what other teams have done is the vagueness in the contract that the Bengals are using and the extremeness in terms of money. Essentially even trying to take back “guaranteed” money if they release him before the end of the contract

Football is such a weird sport/business because it seems to be the only sport where fans OVERWHELMINGLY side with the billionaire owners. If he signs the current contract it does in fact potentially screw over future players. From what I understand the Bengals have made the wording intentionally vague. It does not say legal trouble makes it so they can void the entirety of the remaining contract, it just says trouble. So they could conceivably look at “trouble” as he showed up late to a couple of meetings, got fined, and now they can use that against him. its an unnecessary thing they are trying to put into the contract. If no other player has ever had this in their contract, why should Stewart accept it in his?

Don’t seems like you’re trying to paint these rookies inaccurate a bad light, but in both cases it’s the team. It’s the team that “overdrafted” the QB, it’s the teams at the top of the second round that gave unprecedented fully guaranteed deals to those guys, it’s the Bengals trying to slide something completely unheard of into their first round pick’s contract. it’s rarely ever a rookie’s fault when these things don’t get signed now (not saying it doesn’t happen) it is almost always the teams trying to put something over on these guys

Back off the caffeine, this is really going overboard

without his injury last year he surpasses those numbers as a rookie-so you actually think he’s going to regress his 2nd year rather than improve

No, they’re going into year 6 with arguably a top 4 QB and outside of 2 WR and an older DE they have nothing. Honestly, what do they have that’s above Buffalo outside of that-their defense IS laughable and so is their offensive line

In mini camp in June? Yes it can, it 100% can

I’m not upset at all, just pointing out how absurd your statements have been. Reading your stuff lately, you seem like it’s a personal attack on you that he wasn’t at OTAs or made some tweets. But that’s cool, deflect if you need to

Who cares right now if he is or isn’t. Guys have done things the “right way” and teams haven’t brought them back. Him leaving after the season doesn’t mean things aged poorly

Wait hold on-you are the same exact dude saying he didn’t handle things the right way. He shows up, which is doing things the right way, and you’re still crapping on him. Come on man, your fight is getting weaker by the second

This Bishop statement is outstanding-PEAK offseason nonsense and I love it! Little evidence to suggest growth-no crap, they’ve had lifting and like 3 OTA practices. Then you compare it to Bernard’s 2nd year that nobody saw coming. Great, nonsensical stuff!!!

This isn't a true statement. It's just not how you would have handled it. The brother thing is also incredibly overplayed. JJ Watt, pulled for TJ Watt to get paid, is that terrible? Same with the Kelce brothers, are they "terrible teammates" as well? Too many people are taking this too personally - it's business, and he and his representation made a business decision (one that many players have used in the past)

Ok so I’ll simplify my question. Would you rather have Bateman for $12 million a year or Cook for $12 million? To me that’s a no brainer-Cook is a much more dynamic weapon than Bateman is and if I had to choose between the 2 I wouldn’t hesitate to pick Cook

You’re right, he’s $10 million a year, not $12 million 🙄 the bigger point I’m trying to make is the impact these guys have on the game. I’ll ask again, what would be considered a successful season stats wise for Palmer (and for Bateman, considering this thread is about his deal)? We know that Cook has an impact on every game, and at this point we are all hoping Palmer has an impact on some games. Also, not really sure how comparing yards is a new thing….1400 yards is 1400 yards