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After the draft: current odds of the Bills winning the SB
CorkScrewHill replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
Just jumping on one last time to delete my original post and to apologize to @Mr. WEO. I am drained and my head is all foggy from the treatments and likely too emotional. I will be staying off, but not because of @Mr. WEO and my apologies also for my snarkiness. Go Bills -
After the draft: current odds of the Bills winning the SB
CorkScrewHill replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
If you haven’t seen similar statements many times over on this board you are either 1) randomly skipping those posts; 2) suffering from significant memory loss; or 3) just a troll. if 1) congrats; off 2) my condolences; if 3) then I totally get it .. trolls gonna troll -
After the draft: current odds of the Bills winning the SB
CorkScrewHill replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
Look 7 posts up in this very thread from Dillinger4 ”Our D is the big question. With Tre as our #1 CB we ain't going anywhere. Don't give me " hopefully he rebounds and gets healthy". The dude is a wimp at 100% strength.” Sorry I corrected the grammar. There are numerous references to fire McDermott / Beane as well as statements about us not being good enough to win. I will not be spending my time finding them for you. If you have not seen those posts good for you .. they are there. Have a great weekend. -
After the draft: current odds of the Bills winning the SB
CorkScrewHill replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
Look at any bash McBeane thread … there are so many or just look 4 comments up .. “we are going nowhere” -
After the draft: current odds of the Bills winning the SB
CorkScrewHill replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
How would the smart money in Vegas put us closer to the Chiefs than we are from the Jets. I have been reading on TBD tgat we have zero percent chance of winning a title. I am thinking some people on the board should plunk down money on everybody put the Bills. -
Let's focus on the latter three years as a good GM improves his team over time. - as a GM you look to keep your team competitive . Last years Chiefs were not as good their team from 3 years ago, but they were competitive and things played out for them in the playoffs. Baltimore is the only one. You're really not going to cite NE with Jones in his rookie season and not a WR to mention on the team, at home for us, are you? I'd hardly call that a feat. - well I also counted Houston and Jacksonville I'm not sure how that is demonstrating how the D didn't show up. We also no-showed, at home, for Cincy before Hamlin got hurt in that game, it's hardly as if we were shutting them down. - now we are talking regular season .. if you want to do that we were 13-3 including beating KC in KC In five of those playoff games we allowed over 32 PPG. That's good? - the D has only given up 32 points in two of those games both to the top offense KC. Maybe your problem is you are getting your data from bad sources. We must have different standards. - Definitely! This past season was a complete debacle and everyone knows it, we can make excuses, but vs. the Bengals in the regular season game - the playoffs were a debacle agreed. Micah Parsons, a guy who plays football at a pretty high level recently stated that the team was understandably emotionally drained for the playoffs. As for the regular season they were 13-3 .. by my standards that is not a debacle but as you pointed out we have different standards. i did not respond to all of your points as this is a message board not a place for essays and I will not respond further because there will be no convincing you and you will not convince me.
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2017 - not a great team that outperformed expectations. D gave up 10 pts 2019 - in it to the end and without the phantom illegal block call probably win it. D only gave up 22 including overtime 2020 - let a mediocre team hang around in the Colts. D allowed 24 pts; D dominated Baltimore allowing only 3 pts; outclassed by the Chiefs 2021 - crushed the Patsies D only gave up 17 and they were playing backups fairly early on; should have won against the Chiefs but the D could not stop Mahomes 2022 - team was out of sorts for both games - I truly believe they were emotionally spent. Barely beat an overmatched Dolphins team and were no-shows against the Bengals. Given this I think it is unfair to say the D does not show up in the playoffs with the exception of the last few minutes of 2021 and this year’s playoffs.
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A GM is supposed to get players to get to the playoffs and position a team for a run. The best team does not always win in the playoffs as they are one and done games. When the Giants beat the undefeated Patriots the Giants weren’t the better team they just happened to get hot and a bit lucky. The Bills management has built a team that will compete for a while and hopefully they will go on one of those runs by avoiding key injuries, playing well, and getting a few lucky bounces along the way. I do agree with @GunnerBill that they have been lacking in the 2nd and 3 rd rounds but overall compared to their peers McBeane has done admirably in the drafting of players
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McBeane take a lot of garbage around here but in a league where more guys fail than succeed the Bills have not had a flop of a first rounder (would like more out of Ed but when he is a free agent he will get a big contract from someone. Tre, Allen, Tremaine have all landed huge contracts and Ed and Greg will as well. Maybe if you look at success rates one should compare to how other front offices are doing. In the case of 2020 first rounders that is 37.5%. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/03/only-12-first-round-picks-from-2020-had-their-fifth-year-option-exercised/
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PFF has a fuller list BUFFALO BILLS RB Jordan Mims, Fresno State WR Tyrell Shavers, San Diego State WR Jalen Wayne, South Alabama OT Richard Gouraige, Florida OT Noah Henderson, East Carolina DI DJ Dale, Alabama Minicamp RB Isaiah Bowser, UCF OG Josh Donovan, Arizona DI KD Hill, Ole Miss DI Taron Vincent, Ohio State LB James Patterson, Buffalo S Joe Foucha, LSU S Javon Scruggs, Liberty S Morgan Vest, Northern Arizona LS Aaron Bolinsky, Syracuse https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-udfa-tracker-undrafted-free-agent-signings-all-32-teams
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Woo Governor did not declare for the draft and therefore is not able to sign a free agent deal .. source is Woo Governor’s twitter account
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From the Buffalo News quoting Terry ““Kim and our family have entered a new season in our lives,” Terry Pegula said in the video shown to a crowd of 300-plus at Eastern Hills Wesleyan Church. Another 300-350 people joined a livestream of the event, which was co-organized by Kim’s alma mater, Houghton University. “The beginning of this season has been difficult,” Terry Pegula continued. “But we ask, with God’s help, that Kim’s recovery continues. We also ask, with God’s help, that Kim has a full recovery. We ask humbly, but we pray boldly.”’