Johnny Coli

I'm on my way out the door so someone can link to it, or dig it up, but the parkinson.org site says that increased tremors is a side effect of some of the medications. If anything, I would hope that this bit of controversy forces people to go to some of these sites and get some real info on the disease for themselves, unlike Rush who is counting on the fact that many of his listeners won't.

Look, man, far be it from me to rain on your "gotcha" thread, but you're attempting to use a flawed study as an example of how you know more about statistics than the other posters who called you out for using a flawed study to support your eugenics program in the other thread. And therein lies the problem with both threads. You are trying to make your argument without fully understanding the concepts you are using to form your end of the debate, and that makes it very hard for someone who does know the concept(s) to try and argue with you. Your response to everything in the other thread was "show me the evidence." But it's like arguing with someone who just got hit on the head with a piece of cheese and then extrapolates that event into "the moon is made of cheese". You could try and tell them that there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but if they keep pointing to the wedge of cheese as all the evidence they need, then there's really no point in continuing the debate. Stop pointing at the wedge of cheese.

Neither. You look at the Uninterested group’s response to the snack question, and throw out the Interested responses. The Interested responses are biased, as they would have joined regardless of the snacks, as evidenced by their interest without the bribe (based on the wording of the question no snacks were offered). You want to see whether the presence of snacks would have had any influence on the Uninterested respondents. Your null hypothesis is that there is no influence, and any significant change from that would give you your answer.

Why wouldn't they just add to the list. Seems kind of a shame to eliminate the other six. Adding structures like the Eiffle Tower and the Statue of Liberty sort of cheapens it, if you ask me.

Dude! I have a most excellent suggestion! What is is, Ted! In the future, future Bill and Ted should go back in time and put a garbage can in front of each defensive lineman so the next play we run will be over the dudes as they fall down. Wyld Stallyons! (doodley-doodley-doodley)

You will not get a debate from most people in the scientific community (myself included, as this will be the only post I make to you on this subject in this thread) for the same reasons that we will not enter into debate with creationists. You are arguing from a position that, even when presented with an overwhelming amount of evidence to the contary, you will not budge from. Your interpretation of genetics is so far off it's barely worth discussing, and that you are using this interpretation to frame your argument for eugenics only highlights why the majority of the scientific community brushes it off as pseudo science. You mention selective breeding for desirable characteristics. Intelligence is not a characteristic like pea plant height, corn kernal shape, or hair color in cats. In trying to breed selectively for a trait that is influenced by hundreds of interacting molecular pathways, outside environmental factors and influences, and most certainly diet, you risk the chance of increasing the number of deleterious alleles in the population's gene pool. Genetic diversity in the gene pool immunizes a population from disasterous events because a trait that may be considered undesirable can often become desirable if the conditions/environmment surrounding the population change. Genes are not easily interchangable dots on a line. They are linked and selectively breeding for one, or even worse, an unknown number leading to a subjective characteristic like intelligence could lead to disasterous and possibly the opposite results to which you intended. Yes, we can use model organisms like corn or fruit flies to study the genetics of kernal shape or eye color, but we know that these are influenced by simple biochemical pathways and the result of a single allele. Intelligence is not in this category. You can try and frame your argument using simple punnett squares , but intelligence is not a "50% chance of getting the smart gene and 50% chance of getting the stupid gene." Using selective breeding to influence the intelligence of a population is 100% stupid.

People go missing every single day. I'll reserve my concern for the ones who go missing against their will, and not for two HS seniors who willfully went camping in late October and who, up until 11:00PM saturday night, were calling their buddies with a cell phone. If it happens that they were tragically set upon by murderous thieves, eaten by wild mountain men, or frightened to death by "he who cannot be named on TSW", then maybe I'll feel a bit bad for them. But, the fact that they made it through Friday evening, all day Saturday, and a good portion of Saturday night unscathed, uneaten and unfrozen, means the odds are pretty good they're fine. So, the answer is "yup." They're fair game for ridicule.

Two kids are missing and all we're talking about is "the kids are gay" and a murderer who can no longer be referred to on TSW OMG!!!! All traces of them have also been wiped clean from the 'tubes!!!

I'm told the ghost of he who can not be named now inhabits those woods. Only fools or the careless dare enter the Adirondacks on a dark night when the frost descends upon the forest. If those two boys are still alive, they are no doubt begging for a swift death to deliver them from the horrors they have encountered. Pray for their souls......

You're reprimanding me for that post in this thread? Of all the posts that have been made in the past 24-plus hours, that post get's the finger-wag for "not thinking before posting?" Yes, CL, I'm so sorry that I posted a "haunted adirondacks" message instead of the more classy "they were gay lovers sneaking off to vermont via the adirondacks" post that was made. Please accept my heartfelt apology.

That goes without saying.

Helloooo!!! Freaking Holloween! Helloooo!! Two HS seniors went camping in the Adirondacks knowing the temps would dip into the 30s overnight. They clearly survived fine Friday PM, all day Sat, and last called their buddies with a cell phone saturday PM (11:00). This is, of course, all being relayed to us by a single poster because in my seach of the 'tubes I haven't come across a single story on it. So, I'm not going to apologize for what was meant to be a holloween related, tongue-in-cheek post that I'm sure most people got. A post, I might add, that was not the first light-hearted post in the thread, and a post that was followed by other posts intimating that the two kids are gay lovers.

The murder was committed in the Adirondacks, but I update for you VABills... I'm told the ghost of Thai-conderoga80 now inhabits those woods. Only fools or the careless dare enter the Adirondacks on a dark night when the frost descends upon the forest. If those two boys are still alive, they are no doubt begging for a swift death to deliver them from the horrors they have encountered. Pray for their souls......

I'm told the ghost of Thailog80 now inhabits those woods. Only fools or the careless dare enter the Adirondacks on a dark night when the frost descends upon the forest. If those two boys are still alive, they are no doubt begging for a swift death to deliver them from the horrors they have encountered. Pray for their souls......

There's tons of neat stuff that came out in the past decade (too bad we're not including the period consisting of '92-'95 as well, because some absolutely blistering stuff came out in those three years). Anyway, here are a few of the records that continue to blow me away every time I hear them: Turbonegro "Apocalypse Dudes" The pride of Oslo, Norway, Turbonegro's "Apocalypse Dudes" may be the greatest rock and roll record ever put to vinyl. Jello Biafra calls it "the most important European record ever" and who the hell is going to argue with Jello-freaking-Biafra? From opening track "Age of Pamparius" to the last track, "Good Head" (and only the most self-absorbed knock-out punch of a rock record ending in the history of mankind), "Apocalypse Dudes" has to be heard to be believed. And even then you won't be able to fully comprehend it. We worship what we will never understand. We make sacrifices to it because it is so far above our plane of existence we need to kill something to just feel anything but small and pathetic in it's presence. There is no other slab of music like it, and there will never be anything that compares to it ever again. "Apocalypse Dudes" transcends music. It transcends life itself. Guitar Wolf "Jet Generation" Smoking rock from Tokyo, Japan. Matador Records marketed "Jet Generation" as "the loudest CD ever made." Oh man! If you like your rock trashy and LOUD this is it. This is the zenith of maxed out amplifiers, blown speakers and pegged levels. This record goes way past anyone's idea of eleven and right through the ceiling along with everything else in the room in it's wake. "Jet Generation" will either be one of your top five records of all time, or you will run screaming from the room never to listen to music again. There is no in-between with Guitar Wolf. There is no holding anything back with Guitar Wolf. You are either with us, gloriously rolling around in the trash with our ears blown right off our skulls, or you are dead to us. "Can-Nana Fever! Let's go rock and roll!!!!!" Reatards "Grown up, F---ed up" Jay Reatard, bastard son of Nashville, Tennessee. Howling. Screaming. Pitching his emaciated body into a mountain of shattered glass. The overdriven amps smoke, screech and belch as he excorsizes his demons and any you've brought along for the ride. There is only one word that can describe "Grown up, F---ed up". Visceral. "Grown up, F---ed up" is the worst hangover you have ever had. "Grown up, F---ed up" is a debilitating migraine. "Grown up, F---ed up" is the rush of sound inside your head as your significant other is cutting you lose and taking your records with them. You will never get "Grown up, F---ed up" out of your head. You will never get the stench of "Grown up, F---ed up" out of your clothes. "Grown up, F---ed up" will stay with you until you go to your grave.

Stick it to the Man!

I'd be honored. Why don't you show some initiative and lobby a mod, or create a poll. How about we also call all suck-up posts a "/dev/null"?

[minor thread hijack] Columnist Dan Savage has been making an effort to get "santorum" into the english lexicon. santorum (san-TOR-um) n. The frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. I challenge all PPP readers to try and insert "santorum" into their speech at least once a day. Let's hear your anecdotes on the PPP, and let us know if anyone recognizes the word when you use it. [/minor thread hijack]

They didn't have a good scheme for the format they were using. I listened to it a handfull of times, hated it, and quickly switched back to either NPR or sports radio. The listeners they were/are targetting are more inclined to stay up-to-speed using the web, ie liberal blogs, news blogs, messageboards, campaign sites, flashmobs, youtube, podcasts. Additionally, their programming was dull and lacked any creativity. There are probably at least half-a-dozen liberal-leaning posters on TSW that could have put together a better, more exciting format. It wasn't the message that missed, as we are seeing a fair number of polls suggest that many americans are frustrated with Bush and the GOP. It was their management was truly abyssmal. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest to see them dissappear. They weren't on my radar anyway.

"Aggressive regional diplomacy" is a tactic being put forth by James Baker as well. U.S. may have weeks, not months, to avert civil war, adviser warns The Iraq Study Group is also suggesting a redeployment within as little as 18 months, or three years at the most. That sounds exactly like the plan Murphy has on his website. Redeployment with a strike force in the region. Surely everyone calling for a gradual drawdown and redeployment can't all be considered idiots. At some point it has to be made known to the iraqi people that the US is leaving and their security will be up to them. I don't care if it has to be handed over city by city, town by town, block by block or even freaking house by house, the US should leave and the iraqis should be left to deal with their own country.

There is no plan in place right now. None. You and Ken can continue to put forth the nonsense that Bush and Rummy have a clue and are victims of bad PR, but reality is telling a completely different story. I do not have the answers. But it has become crystal clear that Bush, Rummy, et al have no answers either. Multiple people from retired generals, to people currently in the military, to former administration members (including Bush I), to members of the GOP, to the Dems are calling for a change in direction. You can continue to maintain that all are complete idiots and aren't qualified to discuss a different strategy for Iraq , but it is becoming clearer who the real idiots are. EDIT: In re-reading this post it could possibly be interpreted that I am calling Ken and Tom idiots. That is not the case.

So a decorated Iraq war veteran isn't qualified to discuss Iraq because I happen to share his point of view?

The FBI is questioning someone in Milwaukee for making the threats. So, by your logic, we should be fighting them in Wisconsin so we don't have to fight them in the Oakland Colliseum. The front line in the war on terror is made of cheese.

I just took a look at his campaign site. He's an Iraq War vet (Army paratrooper), a Bronze Star recipient, and taught at West Point. I would think that if anyone was qualified to discuss Iraq it would be Patrick Murphy. Here is his plan for redeployment. His plan does not call for all troops to be withdrawn in six months, just the Guard and Reserves. I don't see anything unreasonable with this plan, and had it been implemented last December, it would take two full years to redeploy the troops. That's not a cut and run strategy.

Maybe the intelligence they're getting is even worse than ours.