Johnny Coli

That's two weeks in a row we've gotten to see that puke Boomer Essiason have to choke up a back-handed compliment about JP. I'd like to see a few more weeks of him twisting in the wind. Ef-you, has-been.

No kidding. There's some guy comparing him to Ryan Leaf in this thread.

Everybody take a swig of ice cold beer and rejoice.

One way of not getting called a racist is to not scream "motherf--king N-----" over and over again to insult a black man from the stage. One way of not getting called a racist is to not use lynching to insult a black man from a stage. One way of not getting called a racist is to verbally attack the heckler, not his race. Seems pretty simple to me. Wanna know why that word would never come out of my mouth, even when in a rage of anger? Because I'm not a racist pig. Just because he lost control on stage does not excuse the fact that his response was to attack the heckler's race. A person who is not a racist scumbag would never do that, no matter what their state of mind.

Finally found the time to watch this thing. No way in hell is that acceptable. If a heckler is getting under your skin, you attack the heckler as a person, you don't attack his race. It's not like he just busted out that word once. He used it multiple times, and brought up lynching. Way over the top. I don't see how people can defend that, I really don't.

Yes on all counts. We're just going to have to wait for Smith v. Walmart to clear the interpretation up. It ought to hit the courts at 12:01AM on the day the amendment takes effect.

It's not vague with respect to the entire paragraph. There is no way that anyone will be allowed to walk in off the street and be able to get the company's payroll information just by asking politely. Also, how would you interpret "a person acting on behalf of an employee?" We are crossing into the realm of the absurd here. From what I see, the amendment certainly favors labor unions, which is probably second only to gays destroying our culture for some in here. An employee of a non-union shop could file to see the payroll, and a union could use that information to convince the other employees to unionize. That should fire up the anti-union crowd in here.

You're talking about a "worst-case" scenario. A lawyer/designee would have to file a complaint "on GG's behalf" to get the company to release the records. If you haven't given consent, then there would have to be a pretty damn strong legal reason for that to get to the stage where it even get's ruled on after it's deemed unnecessary to get your consent. Then it has to be ruled in the lawyer's/designee's favor. The merits of the complaint can't be "We want to publicize all the employee's salaries for the company GG works for." It would never get through. Not to mention that in your scenario the legal boundaries of the amendment have to be stretched to include the info of all the employees. The way it is written seems to limit the results of the complaint to just the single employee's information. I don't see it happening.

Clarify, please. If the info isn't publicized or voluntarily divulged to me by that employee how would I know, other than what I already know about the general payscale for my industry?

I don't see anywhere in that amendment where it says an employee's payscale will be publicized. It states: So, unless the employee, or a designee of the employee (read lawyer) requests it, the info isn't in the public domain. Additionally, anyone else who wants this information has to file a complaint to see it, and it clearly states that the employee's name is left out of the disclosure unless it is deemed necessary to resolve the complaint.

There's no way to keep them from streaming across our borders.

I am the one looking at this sensibly. You are the one saying that employer record keeping will aid criminals. This new amendment isn't going to impact that either way, as the information is already there. What employer doesn't already have a record of what their employees make? What employer doesn't already have employee home address info stored in-house? It's ludicrous to think that keeping a record of what employees make (which, btw, already freaking exists in every workplace) is going to make it easier for someone with a criminal intent to commit crimes against other employees. There's no connection. You make it sound like anybody can waltz right in and ask a secretary for someone's pay history and home address, and that's just not the case, as per the way the amendment is written. Also, if I'm not mistaken, both the Ohio State Senate and Ohio House of Reps were under GOP control. I'm not sure how the amendment got on the ballot, but this Ohio Citizen Action site has a pretty good run-down. It can be added via the legislature, or you need to get 10% of the elctorate's signatures (in 2005 this was 322,900 people). So, either the GOP legislature got it on there, or a whole lot of Ohio citizens did. Your beef isn't with "liberal" extremeists.

A little common sense, indeed. I know what Sic (love the acronym, btw) was trying to say, and I know what you're trying to say. But if you think employers keeping your paystubs for three years makes women an easier target you're insane. If the "criminal element" wants to stalk someone I'm sure there are easier ways than by requesting a copy of another employee's records. They'd just follow them home. And if they're willing to break into a file system for an address of another employee then they already have the information in human resources or on some administative assistant's computer, unless you're going to tell me that up until this past November the 7th not a single employer in Ohio kept their employee's addresses and information on file. To quote you, "How about a little !@#$ [common] sense," instead of scare tactics and paranoia. Lastly, the people of Ohio voted on this. I didn't. The "liberals" didn't force it on them. The "criminal elements" didn't pull the wool over their eyes. It was all right there in black and white on the ballot. Over two million of them voted for it. If Ohio has over two million stalkers and "criminal elements" that were waiting in the wings for Ohio companies to begin storing paystubs (which they already do, btw) just so they could rape and pillage their way through the Ohio valley, then Ohio has a bigger problem than a record keeping issue.

Lost in all the wailing and rending of garments in this post is that Issue 2 was voted on in the 2006 election, by actual citizens of Ohio, in a democratic fashion, and the Issue passed 56 to 43 percent. It wasn't rammed down the good people of Ohio's throats by liberal activist judges. It wasn't forced upon the good people of Ohio by a liberal legislature hell-bent on destroying small businesses and pushing their anti-business, pro-gay agenda. It was actually voted on...and it passed. Also, if some "crumb has his eye on your wife" this ammendment isn't going to be the catalyst that destroys your marriage. This ammendment isn't providing the impetus for disgruntled ex-employees to come and hunt you down. Telemarketers and shady competitors don't need this law to bug you or steal your intellectual property. They could get the info they needed to make Ohio Hell on Earth regardless of whether this ammendment passed. It's a shame that your Egg McMuffin went up 5 cents, but let's try and keep this in perspective, shall we. Two million plus citizens of Ohio voted to raise the minimum wage in their state, and tie it to the cost of living. Here's a link to the constitutional ammendment that passed in Ohio. Issue 2, via SmartVoter.com No more than usual.

I don't see the point. Who's going to want coins other than collectors? Seems like a waste of time. You can put them into circulation, but who they hell wants to carry them around? In fact, after a bit of digging on the site, they passed a law REQUIRING all government facilities and anyone who receives government money to put in vending machines that will use the things ( Removal of Barriers: Obligations of Certain Agencies, Businesses and Transit Systems). That's totally mental. What's that going to cost? Here's the pdf of the law : Presidential coin act of 2005 Looks like they're also going to crank out $50 gold bullion "Buffalo" coins, and for some insane reason we're minting pennies again. Why in god's name are we minting pennies in 2006? Why? I was in an outstanding mood because of the victory over the hated Texans, but these damn coins are bringing me down. I hate them already, and they haven't even been minted yet.

Right after the early games were over, CBS did it's quick highlights segment. Essiasson (sic?) got the Bills-Texans. They lead in with Losman's INT, then Boomer practically chokes out that Losman hits Price for the game winner. Boomer is scum. In later broadcasts he actually said JP had a nice game, but he had already made my list. I don't want the Bills getting any props. It'll be that much sweeter to see the sports chatteratti heads spin around when the Bills run the table.

Nice. That might be the best catch of Price's tepid carreer. There aren't many highlights to select from, but that must rank up there pretty damn high for him.

Yup. Not including yesterday's win, that's three games this year that could have swung the local squad's way had a play or two gone their way. That's pretty good, as two of those tilts were against teams considerd "elite" AFC teams. An optimist might even say that the Bills softened up the Colts for Dallas. No one is going to want to play The Most Dangerous Team in the NFL down the stretch. Next up, putting the hurt on the Jags' season.

Happy BD, NG! And a happy BD to Guff, as well!

I'm so jacked up right now that they're going to have to break out the tasers to get me down!

Game winning TD on the road with 9 seconds left on the clock. I'm going to get carried away, and I'm not going to apologize for it.

You sir are a damn idiot. The kid drove them 55 yards in 7 plays to win the game with 9 seconds left. On the damn road. That's a confidence-building win. That's a win a young team builds on. Only a moron would suggest that a win like that hurts this team. The TSW filters prevent me from going any further with this.

They should get rid of that peice of dirt Smerlas, as well.

They all got tased.

He was leaving, as per more than one witness.