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44 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
Gabe in the slot is likely a terrible idea. He is very poor at winning contested catches, drops too many balls, and isn't a precise route runner.
Brian Daboll had Davis in the slot ~33% his first two seasons. Daboll clearly didn’t think it was a terrible idea.
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22 minutes ago, Dan said:
Wasn’t a defender at his feet, preventing him from stepping into the throw at all. Perhaps even makin him hesitant after the low hit last week.
Yes, clearly should have been a roughing the passer penalty.
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39 minutes ago, ddaryl said:
We heard the Vikings CB say Gabe only runs 3 routes, so that tells me Gabe's mental game is far from top notch. We've seen some communication hiccups as well as lack of focus/concentration.
I don't know that if that is Davis' fault or Dorsey's. According to Cover 1, Davis went from being in the slot ~33% of time in prior years to <10% this year. That is a huge shift in usage and could explain some things.
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2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:
Anyone have any idea where Josh was throwing the ball on INT?
The game log on ESPN has the intended receiver at Gabe Davis, who was in the end zone at the time. The ball was more or less on his line but obviously way too short.
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1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:
But he needs to learn the art of "late hands" further downfield if he wants to be very productive being a guy who isn't going to get a lot of separation. His "fair catch" attempt in the end zone got a would-be TD deflected by a DB with his back turned who otherwise had no idea where the ball was.
Glad you mentioned that, I thought the same thing.
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1 minute ago, Utah John said:
If the Bills had had a normal schedule of mostly 1 pm Sunday games, this would be great -- staying with a 1 pm Sunday game. But since they've been bounced around so much, this game will probably feel more like just another different schedule. (I can't remember the last time they played at home at 1 pm Sunday. Does anyone know? I can't find this info on line.)
Yesterday.
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13 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
I don't think the short passes are as effective as you believe and we're talking about 5 yards NOT 10 yards. I've seen a lot of check down offenses the last few weeks and they're boring & not very potent. It works early in a game but over time the defenses adjust and they squeeze those initial 7 yard gains down to 3 yard gains.
IMO the Bills offense looked disjointed for four main reasons yesterday:
* Two KO TD returns meant two less offensive possessions.
* The Pats are a very good defense and a lot of offenses look disjointed against them.
* A couple of dropped asses which stalled out drives.
* Uneven O-line play, particularly with almost immediate pressure up the middle.
The calls for more check downs from some today is so bizarre to me. Here is the Bills passing in the first half by drive:
1) 3/4, 14 yards, 4.6 yards/completion, Punt
2) 5/8, 64 yards, 12.8 yards/completion, Touchdown
3) 3/4, 12 yards, 4.0 yards/completion, Punt
4) 1/4, 6 yards, 6.0 yards/completion, Interception
Second half total:
7/11, 158 yards, 22.5 yards/completion
The Bills were throwing short a ton and it was clearly not working well. In the one good drive in the first half, they opened it up and had receptions of 16, 9, 16, and 19 before the TD pass of 4 yards.
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2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
Hard to interpret today given what’s happened this week. But Josh has not been as consistent as one would like for weeks now. We need the good Josh in the playoff games.
Allen was fantastic today.
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2 minutes ago, Success said:
I mean, that's the EXACT time the game will be played. What's the universe trying to tell us here?
That guy is not a meteorologist, he’s a Miami talk show host.
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4 minutes ago, nucci said:
I think you are misinterpreting the tweet and graphic. She is saying 8" on the ground by kick-off and 10" - 12" on the ground by the end of the game. That is 0.66"-1.33"/hour during the game which is manageable.
One of her other tweets shows that Orchard Park is right on the edge of the heavy snow band prediction. If it tracks a couple miles south it may not be snowing at all during game time.
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2 hours ago, Pete said:
Davis still leads NFL-averaging 19 yards per catch. And Gabe has over 1000 yards. But where has he been lately? Gabe got robbed out of a catch last week- he got his second foot down and dragged it a foot. McDermott should have challenged. Didn’t matter, we still scored. But I read bill’s reporter Sal M ripping Gabe for not making that catch. Gabe caught it, refs blew it
That play was overturned by the “sky judge”. The reception counted.
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23 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:
Played the Falcons week 16. & They didn't make the championship game let alone the SB. So that analogy isn't very comforting.
OP was right, It was week 17. January 2nd.
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51 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
You should watch more football then. Pretty much every team has games like that.
KC almost choked against Denver after being up 27-0 and held on for dear life to win 34-28.
I swear most of the people complaining don’t watch other teams/games. There are no style points. They also don’t seem to realize how much better the team is this year versus last year. They have a much harder schedule this year and are 3 (!!!) games ahead of last year at this point. They were 7-6 on December 19 last year! They have a ton of quality wins this year.
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3 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:
Jefferson is also not down and is free to advance the ball. There's nothing wrong with the DB hitting him hard.
I agree. I’m just saying, that hit was more ejection worthy than Hamlins, based on the current rule.
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7 minutes ago, mannc said:
There’s an argument that the guy Hamlin drilled was a “defenseless receiver”. Definitely not the case in the Jefferson hit.
Watch the play again. Whitehead gets there almost simultaneously as the ball. Jefferson was defenseless for sure.
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We didn’t win our eighth game until December 19th last year.
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5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
We had plenty of intensity for a major part of the season. However, this last week against the Browns was very unfamiliar, especially Josh Allen. Every week, Allen is fired up, he is constantly showing fire and passion all game long amongst himself, but also to all his teammates on both sides of the ball. He plays with an edge that he can do anything and no one can stop his will to win.
But this week against the Browns, that Josh was not there and the overall team lacked his normal intensity and passion too. I do not know if its because he was so down on himself and putting all the blame on himself for the past 3 games where we went 1-2 and the Bills had bad second halves, or if it was the coaches really trying to reel him in some and focus on less risks.
Whatever it was, it was not the Josh we have known and that is a big concern. He played Sunday not to lose rather than his usual win at all costs. I have been referring to it as neutered Josh since that game because that is what it felt like. We will not go into KC and win in the playoffs...or beat them here at home...if we don't have the balls to the wall, no one can stop me, Josh Allen. That is a major part of what makes him special.
And yes, we won the game and still put up 31 points...but did we really beat them or did Cle beat themselves? They had 3 easy missed TD passes, two flat out dropped while wide open on back to back plays to see them settle for a FG. And another wide open that Jacoby just missed the throw a little high. They fumbled a snap giving us a free FG after we yet again couldnt get a first down. Then Davis fumbled the onside kick and the Browns player couldn't wrangle it in despite getting 2 hands on it with only a 1 score lead for us.
We still only have 1 TD in the last 4 games in the 2nd half, we settled for a ton of FG's against the Browns, and the offense had only amassed 12 yards in the first quarter and a half. Against KC we would have been down 21 points at least if we had 12 yards of offense in the first quarter and a half.
Browns lost that game more than we won it. Nothing about that game felt like resolved issues. The offense was anemic, Josh wasn't firery like he normally is, he didn't take chances, he didn't push the ball. End result...195 yards passing. I love Josh, and I still think him and Mahomes are the class of the NFL without question...but this Allen...this offense we saw on Sunday...it won't get it done against better teams.
So I really hope with a win under their belt, Allen regains his confidence to go out and try and smash opponents the way he has. I will take the sample size of the last 2 and a 1/2 years over the sample size of the 2nd half of 3 games any day of the week. We live and die by his ability to take risks and make plays. That is much better than him playing not to lose.
Allen started 4/10 for 27 yards through most of the first half. The rest of the way he went 14/17 (82%) for 170 yards (10 yards per attempt) and a TD. One of those incompletions was a throw away. The Bills scored on all six of those possessions before the kneel down to end the game. Allen was really good once he shook off that early funk.
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3 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:
Someone help me with the details here but I think it was Losman who on his last play as a Bill, which was something like 4th and 18, ran out of bounds after a short gain rather than get tackled. That was our butt fumble in my foggy recollection.
That was Trent Edwards.
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23 hours ago, Einstein said:
- 0 and 7 in one score games the last two seasons
This talking point I keep hearing is ridiculous and shows a complete lack of critical thinking. Winning a lot of games by a big margin and losing a few games by a small margin is what good teams do. It is how sports work. Not to mention the Bills actually won their share of close games last year too:
- Week 8: Bills were up 6 to Miami with under 4 minutes to go. Does not count to you because they took care of business and won by 15.
- Week 16: Bills were up 5 to New England with under 3 minutes to go. Does not count to you because of that crazy drive to seal the game and division lead.
- Week 18: Bills were up 3 to New York Jets with under 9 minutes to go. Ignored because they took over the game in the final minutes and pulled away.
Are we supposed to take serious your argument that the Bills would have been a better team if the offense didn't come through late to pull away in those games and instead they hung on by fewer points? It is nonsense.
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13 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
Believe the rules are you need to provide the same equipment to both sides, fans for heat, or heated benches in cold weather, but would be rather difficult to dictate visiting team can't be in sun. Only so many ways you can build/orient a stadium. Not that the NFL cares much about fans but placing a tent or something on the sidelines would not do much for fans sight lines and wouldn't look very good on TV either.
Recall many years ago in Minn, Bud Grant was the coach and he would not put heated benches on the field for both teams as felt Vikings were used to playing in cold other team wasn't so game them big advantage.
Eventually when a player dies in a game from heat, then they may change the scheduling so games like this are played in north early and south late. But only so much can be done there too.
The obvious answer is to have the sidelines be determined by coin flip and/or have them switch sides at half time.
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4 minutes ago, K-9 said:
The 20/20 hindsight armchair quarterbacking never gets old around here. Miami’s D line abused our interior OL all day. Now, I think having a 3rd string center and OG much of the time played into that and it’s not much of a stretch to assume Dorsey and Co. were seeing the same thing. Perfectly understandable that they’d opt to pass in that situation and 9 times out of 10, Josh doesn’t lose his footing and miss an open McKenzie.
Yup, this x1000. Somehow these guys must’ve missed the fact that our line (and receivers) were decimated in the second half and that affected both playcalling and execution.
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20 minutes ago, mannc said:
Josh’s first 25 or so throws were pretty much perfect…then guys started going down, he got less time to throw and I assume he started to feel the effects of the heat. I can’t imagine how exhausting it had to be for him to be running around all day behind that line, throwing 63 times in that heat. I’m actually surprised he was able to finish the game…
Thank you! I feel like I’m in bizzaro world with some of these opinions. Allen was by far the best player on the field today. Gee could the reason he finally missed a throw at the end be because he was exhausted? My god, it’s possible he was the only player on offense who didn’t crawl off the field at some point. He was incredible today.
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As I say above, by the numbers the 2P conversion is a less than 50-50 proposition. I didn't like the move.
Wow, a whole lot of misunderstandings occurring in this thread.
The Patriots weren't playing for the tie nor were they depending on the two point conversion. Six minutes to go, down by eight. You can't plan on having a third possesion, so it's a TD+2 point conversion or a TD+FG. Either way, you need a TD. This drive was the deepest New England hand managed to drive on their own all game, as far they know it was the last best chance to get a TD. When New England beat the Giants earlier this year we saw what happens when your 2:00 drill only has to get in field goal range rather than score a TD.
If they score a TD on that drive, then they go for two and they're either tied with 5:00 left or down less than field goal with timeouts still available. The Patriots made the right decision, it just didn't work out. Happens all the time.
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did it?
or are you just saying that wishfully?
my bad (maybe) for some reason I thought it had to reach or cross the LOS
A ball carrier, in any location, commits intentional grounding when throwing a pass that does not reach the line of scrimmage; for instance, throwing the football down near himself.
What are you watching? The ball not only goes past the line of scrimmage, it appears to go past the first down marker as well.
Interesting Stat...Allen led NFL in average air yards past the first down marker on 3rd downs
in The Stadium Wall
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I don't think you understood the stat or the post.