The Senator

Uh oh... Thurman#1

Christ, that's five more posts Thurman#1 will have to refute - individually and sequentially.

Ditto, dog. Beside Leach and Brandon Carter, he's the guy from TT I'd most like to see in Bills blue. Heisman candidate, led the NCAA in passing yardage, holds the NCAA record for touchdown passes. Got a strong arm, is pinpoint accurate, incredibly bright, reads the field well, gets rid of the ball in about 2 seconds, can take a hit. Can't for the life of me figure out why he wasn't drafted, or signed as a UDFA after Cleveland released him. I think he could be an elite QB in the NFL - hope he gets a chance.

You're the best - thanks! That's 'cause his coach was... Mike Leach

Still can't figure out why the Bills didn't pursue... Graham Harrell

See this is why I'm in favor of an anti-theft device that locks the thief in before activating the 200 dB ear-piecing sirens and cyanide gas diffusers.

Keep busy. Stay active. Exercise vigorously - both your body and your brain. Surround yourself with interesting and supportive friends (sad to say, but you may have to avoid the friends that you used to drink with - at least for a while). Drink cranberry juice with a lime (unless 'Cape Codders' were your beverage of choice) and lots of water. 'Designer water' with a lemon wedge may ease the angst of having a glass in your hand at social events. As a 'borderline guy' myself - who walks that thin line between admitting he has a problem vs. 'drinking to make other people interesting' - do not be at all ashamed to seek help from a professional or a trusted friend. Be well.

Didn't some cow kick one over in Chicago a while back?

:worthy: :worthy: Ha ha ha ha ha - actually, I woke up without a thought about the object of your man-crush. Then I saw your posts - time-stamped 12:50 AM, 12:59 AM, 1:05 AM, 1:17 AM, 6:24 AM, and 6:34 AM - continuing your proclivity of responding sequentially to every single freaking post that maligns the object of your man-lust. Judging from the time-stamps, it looks like Jason gives you about 6 to 12 minutes rest between blow-jobs, and about 5 hours after a good ass-pounding. And regarding your snotty remark... ...all I did was cite another article by a guy - Ross Tucker - whose opinion you claim to respect - ...and who, with regard to Pro Bowl voting - wrote - Though I'm quite sure some of my personal opinions regarding players that didn't deserve to get in (I'm talking to you, Jason Peters) and vice versa will come to the forefront, my focus will be on the process itself because more often than not that is where the problems originate.One team I was on simply had every player go into their own position room and fill out a ballot and turn it in like a fan voting online, with no discussion whatsoever. Some guys filled it out in less than five minutes. Not good. There is no way that I, as an offensive lineman, would know how well the corners or safeties around the league are truly playing. And do you honestly think the wide receivers really know what defensive tackle is doing the best job stopping the run? Please. All they know is what they hear on the scouting report, if they were even listening during that portion, or from the media hype machine that carries certain players to Hawaii every year. Players should primarily and often do only vote for the position groups they compete against or among. That means offensive linemen should vote for other offensive linemen, defensive linemen and linebackers. This varies from team to team. Then their votes are reconciled with the other position groups on the team to form one unanimous vote, for all intents and purposes, among the 53 guys on a team. That only works, or course, when the position groups decide to vote in unison, which is fairly common but can often cause heated discussions and some players may be forced to vote for players they do not deem worthy of the selection. That is where the politics can come into play. There is a long-held belief among a large segment of players that there is a mild form of collusion among the perennial Pro Bowlers to ensure they all make their way back to Hawaii yet again. Since Pro Bowlers are almost always the leaders of their position group if not their team, they tend to have a tremendous amount of influence during the voting process and thus the ability to push the room, as the case may be, in a certain direction. That might be part of the reason why a veteran stalwart that is having a subpar season, like Charles Woodson - or Jason Peters (my addition) - gets selected. link Ross Tucker's words, not mine. (A pro, an offensive lineman who played with Peters, and a guy whom you claim to respect.) But you know more than him. Right.

(Thanks for that lesson - and the CAPS for EMPHASIS.) So says a young teenager - on summer vacation and from the comfort of his parents' home - as he prepares to head back to bucolic Ithaca and the comfort and sanctuary of Cornell, where he can continue lecturing weary wage earners and battle-scarred war veterans on the meaning of the flag while sipping lattes in Collegetown, and while more young men and women get their limbs blown off in Iraq and Afghanistan. Do you know how stupid you seem when you presume to 'educate' folks who have far more 'tree-rings', tax returns, and prosthetic devices to show for their life experience, and and who are far more educated than you at this point in your life? Someone burns a flag in contempt to make a political statement, I'm goin' after them. Maybe not physically, but - within the confines of the law - they will know and fear my wrath. You want to burn a flag? Go to North Korea and burn one of theirs. Please stop telling folks you go to Cornell - it's freaking embarrassing. Walter LaFeber would gleefully fail you. L. Pearce Williams would kick your ass. (You're an Aggie, right? Please say you're an Aggie or a Hotelie, so I can continue to support the College of Arts & Sciences.)

I'm still flabbergasted by your Arm-like statistical refutation regarding Pro Bowl voting (Sorry about the bike, though - I know it was expensive.)

Uh oh...The Dean's 'on the hooch' again...and this time it's an angry buzz... Gin, I'll guess...God, I hate when he gets like this... The Dean

Arm? That you?

So you're a #'s guy, Dean - what percentage of "the guys that play now and voted him to the Pro Bowl" actually played with/against Peters? (I don't consider a WR, QB, RB, offensive lineman, kicker, etc., from a team we play - nor anyone from a team we don't play - as someone who played against him.) I'm curious.

So Crabtree's not sitting out and reentering the '10 draft? The whole thread's a bunch of crap? Fine. Can I just start bashing Jason Peters now?

Yeah, but not as much as... Joe DeLamielleure (go to around the 8:24 mark in the interview when he starts talking about Peters) Now why wouldn't two former Bills offensive linemen - one a Hall-of-Famer, and one who played alongside FatBoy - not realize what the TSW experts and Peters FanBoys know about football, playing o-line, and specifically Peters?

Yeah, I don't mind those chowderheads too much. They're so stupid that it's pretty easy to slap 'em around like the freakin' NE* queers they are. Most NE* sports fans are so pumped up about the Red Sox/Yankees series starting tonite that they don't even care about the Cheatriettes*, or football, right now. They certainly wouldn't be getting their jollies by jerking each other off while trying to act clever on a Bills board, like Pisswater and 4th & Dumb, but those two homos just seem to have a ball getting sh1t on together by real football fans. No big deal - they're idiots, and probably pretty young. Just gives me a chance to show 'em how their girls* finally clawed their way out of the cellar... Exclusive New England Patriots Spy Video Stolen From NFL

Yeah, I could never figure out why the Cheatriettes* didn't start Flutie either, especially over Tony Eason - the quarterback that HOF guard John Hannah said, "should have worn a skirt!" (Guess Hannah must have known something about those freakin' queers in New England ) 'Course, nothing could have helped the hapless Patriettes* against the dynasty known as the Buffalo Bills at that time - and nothing did - until SpyGate happened and they became the Cheatriettes* under... Shady Brady* and Bill Belicheat*

My pleasure. Thurman#1 does seem to put some credence into what Ross Tucker's opinions, so I'm surprised he didn't cite this piece... NFL Pro Bowl voting among players should be consistent

Where, JR? I just drove thru all of NYS, the Berkshires, and spent a weekend in Boxford, MA, and everything was green

So judging by the original poster, I'll guess he meant this Ross Tucker article... 'Two C's' are crucial for OLs ...and not this one: Peters trade has already started game of musical chairs in draft GO BILLSSS!!!! 19 and 0 baby!!!!!

Yes, I got it the first time. I don't mind stealing a good line from a great film every now and then. (But it would have been hilarious if Hobson had called someone a CumSponge )

Huh? Hobson never called anyone a CumSponge

Actually, we don't know that - especially if he* gets caught at some gay bar in Provincetown, engaged in a lewd act with with you and '4th and 1'. But we do know that Andre Reed will eventually join the 9 current Bills inductees, and were it not for the fact that you can't induct an entire team, probably a few others (Kent Hull, Cornelius Bennett, and Steve Tasker come to mind) from the team that played in 5 AFC title games in 6 years, went to four consecutive Superbowls, and missed the playoffs only twice from 1988 thru 1999. Go figure - all of that, without cheating! And if T.O. stays, he'll certainly be in the HOF along with several other members of the next Bills dynasty, while the Cheatriettes* descend back to the cellar and quickly dissolve into crumbled ruins...

Fixed - and I'm sure you feel the same about my posts. Guess we'll just agree to disagree on this whole Peters thing? And sorry - wasn't calling you a child (or, at least, didn't mean to) - just quoting one of the corniest lines from the old Batman series. My apologies. GO BILLSSS!!!! 19 and 0 baby!!!!!