The Senator

Well at least we can eliminate several hundred threads about the guy as draft day draws near. Now the new GM/FO can focus on drafting to bolster both lines, as they should.

More info... Link - Locker to return to Washington Thank God, I say - that's one less unproven, inexperienced underclassman to argue about in several hundred threads as draft day draws near!

Actually, they sometimes do just that - when they decide to keep 6 running backs (3 RBs & 3 FBs) and only 2 QBs on their active roster/depth chart, as Green Bay does. (The Bills, by contrast, carry only 2 RBs & 1 FB.) Interesting comment you made on the practice-squad talent thing too - you may have forgotten that the Bills initially cut Jason Peters, then - after he cleared waivers - re-signed him...to their practice squad!!!

Well of course I'll admit I was wrong, but I don't think I will be. Unlike some of the insecure kids out here, I'm not afraid that my dick will fall off if I have to admit I was wrong, ferchrissakes! I wouldn't be totally shocked to see Brohm play against NE*, but I think it's more likely Fitz gets one more start - maybe Brohm gets some garbage time if we're in the midst of crushing the Cheatriettes*, or (God forbid) getting crushed by them. I expect Brohm to get significant playing time against the Falcons, maybe even the start.

A matter of opinion, of which there are many. I think the Bills handled it almost perfectly - except they should have pushed for the Eagles #20 first round pick, instead of the #28. But we got Wood and Nelson for the fat bum, plus a 6th rounder this April - would have been an absolutely perfect trade (from the Bills perspective) if we used our own pick on Oher, even better if we picked Oher at #8 and had gotten the Eagles earlier pick to use on Pettigrew. JMO.

Trent's NFL career is over. He's not tough enough for the new Arena league, and his noodle-arm is too weak for the CFL's longer and wider field. He'll likely return to his internship at Synopsys after this season, unless he opts for divinity school.

Pretty freakin' hysterical (and pathetic) when a guy starts a thread for the sole purpose of saying, "Nyah nyah, my favorite $60M tackle actually showed up, played a full game and (OMFG) - for once - didn't allow a sack for an entire game!" Wowie!!!! Nice job, FatBoy, but hey - doesn't that call for a raise??? I smell another holdout....

OMFG!!!!! Stop the presses!!!!!! Alert the media at once!!!!!! FatBoy showed up for work, and actually did his job that he gets paid $60M to do!!!!! :thumbsup: :doh: (BTW, he did get manhandled on a couple of running plays, and still looked fat, slow, and outa shape.)

Personally, I hope like hell we win-out, starting with the Cheatriettes* next Sunday, and finishing by ruining the Colts perfect season. We'll likely still get either OSU OT Russel Okung or OU DT Gerald McCoy in the draft anyway.

Just keep it up - keep raggin' on Whitner, and we'll wind up drafting Eric Berry.

Likely so - we'll need a #3 to replace Edwards, who will likely be out of professional football next season. I still think we should have signed Graham Harrell last Spring.

I guarantee the reason the Bills grabbed Brohm is that they DON'T want to burn their first round pick on ANY of this year's projected QB draft-darlings - each of them has big question marks, and the Bills have burning needs on both lines as well as linebacker. They're hoping Brohm lives up to his Heisman-candidate days at Louisville, when he was one of the nation's top QBs and projected by at least one draftnik as the overall #1 pick of the '07 draft before he returned to Louisville for his senior year and fell to the 2nd round in the '08 draft. I doubt we'll see him against the Cheatriettes*, but trust me - if he doesn't start, we'll at least see Brohm get significant playing time the last two games.

OMFG!!!!!! :thumbsup: The people doing the evaluation MAY OR MAY NOT still be here. On draft day and the weeks leading up to it, THE FILM OF BROHM PLAYING QB WILL STILL BE HERE!!! :doh:

As he is now beginning to do, as a result of the success of the program he has built. Starting junior QB Taylor Potts was recruited by Michigan, Baylor, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas, and Texas A&M. It's obvious you don't follow the program, but just want to bash Leach without any factual knowledge upon which to base your claims. Leach also seems to have a keen eye for unwanted talent, like Wes Welker. Wow - more ignorance. You're comparing Arkansas football program to the program Leach inherited at Texas Tech??? You do know that Arkansas has won and competed for national championships, yes? You do know that Arkansas has given us NFL Hall of Famers Lance Alworth and Dan Hampton, in addition to more than two dozen other NFL players including Pat Summerall and former Bills QB Joe Ferguson, right? You really wanna compare the Razorbacks storied program - including the legendary Frank Broyles - to little ol' Lubbock's Red Raiders??? Leach has built the Texas Tech program from the ground up, my friend, with players that no one else wanted - and mangaged to have the NCAA's leading passing offense for 6 of his 10 years (coming in 2nd the other 4) and qualifying for post-season bowl play every year he's been there. Came outa nowhere last season to knock off #1 Texas and rise as high as #2 nationally, before settling at #11 - earning Leach Coach of the Year. You really want to compare that to 'The Nutt'? Nah, not really. Kinda stupid to make excuses today for something that will or won't happen until 12 months from now, dontcha think?

Why does the blatantly obvious seem so obscure to some??? :thumbsup: Plenty of reasons to take an early look at Brohm, starting with a high 1st round draft pick in April, and potentially having Clausen, Bradford, or Locker sitting there on the board when we draft.

Why?

Again, as I keep trying to remind both the cynical and the ignorant, what Leach has accomplished has been done with unlikely, unwanted players that ended up at TT after being rejected by Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, et al. If there was a draft in the Big 12, I gurantee Leach would have a conference title - several, in fact. Came damned close last season. Despite having to use 3 different QBs this season due to injuries, was still 2nd in the nation in passing offense. Look for Leach to win the Big 12 next season with Taylor Potts, and make a legitimate run at the BCS. Unless, of course, someone in the Bills FO is awake and notices Leach before then, when it'll be too late to keep other NFL teams and big-time college programs from offering the guy way more than the $1.8M he gets at TT.

The obvious self-contradiction that I'm sure has escaped Sullivan: he wants to 'lose-out' to improve our draft position, his proposal is to play the young guys to evaluate them while losing games - what happens if they start Brohm (et al) and he turns out to be, as I suspect he will, the best QB on our roster and the Bills end up 'winning-out' instead of 'losing-out' as Sullivan would like? Then we end up 8-8, Jerry, with a worse draft position than our current #7! The Bills should definitely start the young guys - not, as Sullivan suggests, to help us lose games and improve our draft position, but to evaluate them as potential future Bills, give them experience, and - hopefully - teach them how to WIN games. I don't think we're gonna get Suh, who's the only player I truly covet in this draft - and, as a true Bills fan (unlike the idiot Sullivan), I never advocate losing.

An interesting and, I'm sure, in your mind an entirely apt comparison. I'm guessing that, like FatBoy Peters, you went several months without communicating with your employer, only occasionally texting one of two or your favorite co-workers; tell us - did you also stay home for half a year to get your employer's attention and make him realize your worth while not communicating with him?

Yes, there's also a head coach/offensive genius down in Lubbock, TX who preaches that... "It doesn't matter what you run - whether you run it every snap, run the option, throw it - the most important position is offensive line. You can't do anything without a good offensive line, and the more that they can handle for you, the more margin-of-error you have all the way around." In addition to head coach of the NCAA's leading passing offense for the past 10 years and - prior to that - stints as OC at Kentucky and Oklahoma, few pay any attention at all that this perfect candidate for Bills HC also was an offensive-line coach early in his career at Iowa Weslyan... Mike Leach

FWIW... Seattle Times - Percentages say Locker should return to Washington

Not at all - he's still up in Saskatchewan, on a 2-year plus option contract, being groomed for the #1 spot and biding his time 'til he gets another shot at the NFL. But by all means feel free to keep making crap up.

Well, you acknowledge that you're unfamiliar with Leach's record of grooming QBs, which is more than I can say for my stubbornly ignorant adversary from P-Town. Mike Leach was OC at Kentucky in 1997-1998 - he gave us Tim Couch who, depsite WEO's nonsensical ramblings, was a #1 overall pick thrust into the starting role on an expansion team as a rookie, and did lead the expansion Cleveland Browns team to the playoffs - throwing for 3000 yards in '02 before a shoulder injury, a broken leg, and steroid/HGH use ended his career. WEO seems to think that's 'cause Leach didn't groom him well. Leach spent one year as OC at Oklahoma (1999) grooming Josh Heupel, who became an All-American and Heisman runner-up in 2000, leading the Sooners to an undefeated season and a national championship. Heupel was drafted by the Dolphins, but shoulder tendinitis ended his NFL career after one season - again, per WEO, apparently Leach's fault even though Leach was already at Texas Tech in 2000. Now at Texas Tech, Leach does not attract QB talent that the 'big' schools attract - like Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen, Matt Leinert, Mark Sanchez, etc., etc. - a fact apparently lost on WEO. Leach has taken a series of unlikely, unknown, unwanted QBs who were not 'scholarshipped' by any other major programs and turned every single one of them into NCAA leading QBs... CBS Sports: Texas Tech quarterbacks under Mike Leach Smart Football: How Mike Leach keeps producing prolific passers B.J. Symons and Kliff Kingsbury had brief stints in the NFL, Sonny Cumbie was signed briefly by both the Colts and the Ravens, but never played. I don't really see that as a knock on Leach, but rather an amazing accomplishment that these guys even got a shot at the pros! That Graham Harrell lingers in the CFL is a shock, when you look a shmoes like Trent Edwards, who's finished one complete season w/out injury since H.S. (his junior year at Stanford). Leach accomplished similar miracles in his early career at Iowa Wesleyan and Valdosta State, his QBs setting school and conderence records. Fact is, Mike Leach could probably make a half-decent QB out of anyone - even a cross-dressing Patriettes* fan like... Mr. WEO

Well first of all, Locker has yet to declare for the 2010 NFL draft... Seattle Times - Percentages say Locker should return to Washington Second, as the article states, 73% of high profile QBs who leave college early, fail in the NFL. Third, no matter who lines up at QB for the Bills next season, they'll get killed unless we shore up the O-line - and the pressure Locker faced in the PAC 10 is nothing compared to what he'll face from bigger, faster, stronger, meaner NFL defenses. Fourth, every mock draft shows Locker 'off the board' by the time the Bills pick anyway. Two mock drafts show us taking OSU OT Russell Okung, which seems like the smart move. Personally, I think the mock drafts that show Clausen, Bradford, and Locker all going in the top 10 picks are way off, but we should probably pass on all of 'em, even they're there when we pick. I'd take my chances with Brohm, Fitzpatrick, and - if he's still in the league next season - Fanning Fan Edwards at #3. Injuries and the level of pass protection and blocking have proven that the Bills need OTs, guards, DTs, DEs, and LBs more than they need to roll the dice and break the bank on an inexperienced, unproved junior QB.

Super. Then, by all means, based on the film from that Cal game and your opinion and vast experience as a pro scout, let's definitely forget about a our needs at LT, RT, DT, linebacker, etc., and burn a high first-round draft pick on the guy with a 74 QB rating who's played 28 college games and lost 19 of 'em - a guy with the least experience and worst stats of all the QBs that are projected to go in the first round - then, after a lengthy, protracted negotiation and likely holdout thru at least part of camp, give him a multi-year $10-15M/year contract with at least $25M guaranteed in the hopes (and extreme unlikelihood) that Lone Wolf knows how to spot a future star QB.