Simon

This may ultimately turn out to be correct, but until they put an NFL caliber offensive line in front of him nobody will truly know for sure whether he is the real problem.

lol, I was in and out of the room and missed that one. Thanks for the great visual.

Yep, when it's that frequent and widespread, Coach becomes the common denominator.

You guys are nutso. There was zero need for him to fall all over himself; he was in midstride when that ball contacted his hands and then he went stumbling and bumbling after it.

Bunk. I dgaf about the media; that ball was a pillow. He could have stuck his arms out and just run through his route with his eyes closed and it probably would have stuck to him.

He was also useless on that INT and blew the punt cover on that Eagles scoring drive among other mistakes you see from great athletes with poor instincts. I bet he's dumber than a chicken.....

I think you're giving short shrift to the unreal frequency of execution errors that killed drive after drive. It was worse than the turnovers, imo; more frustrating anyways. I suspect that Dorsey was not a details guy in practice and that might be the biggest positive result from the change. Agreed on the more traditional game plan; been whining for years that it's the best thing you can do for Allen.

He most certainly did not have to dive. Mahomes laid it perfectly in his basket.

As a Devil's Advocate: Their pass catchers cannot look that gawdawful on a dry field can they?

no

I actually cracked that little bone on the outside of your wrist doing that after dropping a pick once.

I don't think one of those things is true any more.

He laid a freaking pillow in his hands for the win.

that ball didnt make the line of scrimmage

Not sure about that. It doesn't feel all that physical out there tonight. The weather and a wet field tends to tamp that aspect down a bit.

Was that Fletcher Cox trying to intercept Mahomes spike?

I've got to throw some props at Zach here. Yes, he's a gawdawful QB right now (although I think he might be the kind of kid that finds his game a couple years down the road, ala Geno Smith). But that kid took a ferocious pounding last night and never once hesitated to get up and get right back to work. At one point I thought Ed Oliver had finished him for good (I thought that was worth every one of the 15 yards he drew) but he shook it off and kept right on rolling. He might be wet behind the ears and not ready for this league, but the boy has some moxie.

I have to give some credit to McD for getting a handle on Spencer; his first year he wanted to fight everybody at the drop of a hat. Now he's always one of the first ones on the scene but I can't remember the last time I saw him take a dumb penalty for retaliation. He's a great enforcer because he no longer gets sucked into stupid stuff and when he shows up, suddenly everybody loses interest in escalating.

That and the pacing were the first two things that were immediately noticeable on the opening drive.

That's just how it was reported after the game before anybody had seen any video so the OP was just relating what was being reported.

He had three drops and a fumble in the first quarter. I imagine that may have affected how they used him the remainder of the day.

And I'm always amazed how folks manifest their jealousy by making stupid, pointless demands of those people for no reason whatsoever. 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, that was a Tre White kind of play. Agreed on that blown PI call. He sat on the guys route and then held his water and didn't attack until the ball was arriving. One of several ridiculous calls mixed in with the repeated bungling of that pack of zebras. They are going to enjoy the film room about as much as the Jets will this week.

Yeah, come to work and stay til midnight for no reason on your day off.

I have zero doubt that when the D was on the field, Josh Allen spent much of the game sitting quietly on the bench looking no different than he has been. The network just didn't try to use that shot to promote some stupid dramatic narrative due to the fact that the the Bills were winning the game. The next time the Bills are behind, you'll see that shot again and a bunch of our armchair psychologists will be screeching and wondering why our QB isn't running around the sidelines like Hulk Hogan.