Simon

I think it's hard to exchange ideas about this stuff sometimes because generations of trying to homogenize our culture have put us in a mindset where we are almost wired to view differences as a negative and we tend to make assumptions about where people who disagree about those differences are coming from. Hell, I would submit that a tendency toward less physical aggressiveness is a positive human characteristic, if anything. That's probably where any disconnect was as I was indeed considering the latter. And the visual stimuli I was thinking of was more along the lines of fighting than **cking. A fair point, but the question of how and why those places became more accepting in the first place is also worth considering. I'd be careful about taking that 33% figure as fact for the very reasons you stated in your previous sentence. I actually have multiple times and then typically end up getting rag-dolled as the party crew I run with has several gay twenty-something sons who are 6'5" - 6'11", can really move and love to initiate spontaneous midnight dance parties on the deck. If those kids weren't so sweet I'd be scared to death of them.

I'm not aware of that and it would surprise me. Although here's a study from an institution that is well-regarded as fairly reliable and authoritative that does not support that claim. Gay Men and Lesbians in the U.S. Military A summary snippet: Using the mid-point estimate that 3 percent of women and 4 percent of men are gay or lesbian among adults in the general population, the findings shown in table 2 suggest that 1.8 percent of active duty personnel are gay or lesbian, meaning that nearly 26,000 gay men and lesbians are serving on active duty. The proportion of lesbians among active duty female personnel is approximately four times higher than the proportion of gay men among male personnel, regardless of the assumptions about prevalence in the population. The mid-range estimate of the proportion of lesbians among women serving on active duty is 5.2 percent while the comparable figure for gay men is 1.2 percent. These estimates imply that more than 11,000 lesbians and 14,500 gay men are currently serving in active duty. Of course there's many homosexual men that enjoy banging heads. But I don't think it's wild speculation to suggest that gay men trend toward less physically aggressive tendencies. If I were to suggest that most men tend to be taller than most women, the fact that many tall women exist doesn't invalidate the observation.

I'm sure there's some folks who have used imaging tools on brain responses to visual stimuli among people of varying sexual orientations, but considering how marginalized that community has been across most global cultures, I'd wonder how much funding is readily available for that kind of research. Although I'd think that we're currently moving through the kind of cultural advance that might make it more accessible.

Or maybe it's others who are colorblind and you're just fine ? - )

Just because it differs from yours doesn't make it wrong. It's just a perception. Objectively, I doubt there's been any conclusive research done that would make either of us know whether we're right or wrong.

Sorry, but a bunch of people buying jerseys in the midst of a media frenzy doesn't change my perception that there is something biologically that generally makes heterosexual men more physically aggressive than gay men. By extension, I think this would suggest that there is likely a somewhat lower percentage of gay men hitting people for a living than there is gay men among the general population.

Are we still doing phrasing?

I edited and added to the original post, but I meant I thought Poyer was the best player on the Bills D last year.

Yup. If they had been willing to work outside the box and take a chance on it earlier, I think he'd have been an effective offensive player his entire career.

imo, Poyer was probably the best player on the Bills defense last year. And that's coming from a guy who had never been very high on him previously.

No data for that could possibly exist. But of the 8-10 gay men I know, not a single one of them has ever showed the slightest interest in any sport. I don't think it's pejorative to suggest that gay men are less interested in football or any other sport. It just seems like a general observation that holds up more often than not.

Ooooh, a list

At the risk of insulting usually reasonable people, his detractors have no clue what the hell they're actually looking at

And I don't think it's just the opportunities for more singe blocking that are going to help him, but he's also likely to be fresher and less beat up throughout the year. Taking on doubles is a grind and even though he actually managed to beat a fair amount of them, winning against two guys burns up a crazy amount of energy. The less often he has to totally sell out to beat two blockers, the more often he's going to have some extra jump on downs where there's plays to made.

"on the Bills defensive front" Yes ; - )

He already has. He was the best player on the Bills defensive front last year and it wasn't really close.

I remember that was my favorite signing of that entire offseason. I still laugh thinking about it.

I've been thinking that knocking Carey Price out of this tournament is going to be a very serious problem.

If he slows down he's not going to get there and he knows it; the timing on the whole play couldn't possibly have been any worse. I don't think it was dirty because he checked him at high speed. But I do think following through with that chicken wing ended up making it dirty.

If he tries to dive at that speed he's going to break his neck on the dasher. A diving play was not an option.

He seems like kind of an ass but he only averages like 20 PiMs a year so I doubt if he has much of a rep as a dirtbag.

He's not going to dive into the endboards at that speed but a poke check might have been possible. But if he misses the poke, it's game over. He was definitely looking to bury him but I thought it was more to prevent the goal than an intent to injure. Although seeing the replay now and watching that arm follow through high makes it look a lot dirtier than it did in real time.

If they deal the pick then does the rule not apply? Or can they not even be eligible to win the lottery again regardless of where they end up picking?

I happened to be watching it live and had a tough time deciding if it was really dirty or not. There's some additional context here that nobody is mentioning and that is that the reason Scheifele was driving that hard was because it was the only way he was going to get there in time to prevent the goal that ended the game. I'm not sure I'm convinced he was headhunting, he was just trying to get back as fast as he possibly could to get to Evans before he tucked in the deciding goal. The only thing I thought was dirty about it was that he got that chicken wing up there and followed through with it. If he had kept that arm tucked in it would have just been him digging hard to get back and catching Evans in a vulnerable position while he was trying to save the game.

Thank you for picking up the the slack for all us cynical dummies with such outstanding intellectual contributions.