Simon

I think there are also some folks (read: me) who don't necessarily want it banned, don't care that it's unstoppable but still don't like it because it's just boring and predictable. 3rd/short used to be an interesting down; now I look at it as a chance to change the channel or go to the fridge. A league that emphasizes revenue over all else might be wise to consider that side effect.

Looks like it was an interesting meeting

The correct answer is Chris Spielman; accept no substitutes. But Raion Hill needs a shout-out; an absolute assassin at Safety until he broke his neck on LaDainian Tomlinson's hip.

Just going by memory but I think one of those guys might have been here more than one year?

I used to do that all the time too. 'Til the day my wife turned the oven on to 425 without knowing it was in there Pizza flambe'

Locked by the OP's request

I guess that's what it really boils down to. For me it's a guy that does multiple things at a very high level, is highly respected by both his teammates and opponents and causes coaches to specifically have to deal with him a certain way every week. Others look more toward voting contests or statistics; I prefer to watch what they actually do on the field.

They are all elite players on the field regardless of the popularity contests you prefer to rely on.

Spencer Brown Christian Benford Greg Rousseau James Cook Ed Oliver Terrel Bernard With the jury still out on Torrence, Kincaid and another 2-3 from the most recent class

Smart teams pay for future performance, not past performance, imo.

I don't, but my wife does. When she's done cleaning the gutters, I'll ask her what model she got herself for her birthday.

You'd be the only GM in the world willing to do so.

We don't really know jack-shlt as of yet; that still puts us well ahead of you which is perhaps why we don't feel the need to cluelessly rag on some kid we know nothing about.

Yeah, it'd be nice to not have to worry about that giant bag of dlcks going after Allen's knees for a third time.

Says a guy that has never watched him play or even heard of him until the Bills signed him.

fwiw = for what it's worth Ragging on people for adding content to the forum does nobody any favors.

I sort of think that the reason he was repeatedly running loose all over the place against KC is because they had no fear of him whatsoever.

I just think it was frustrating for a lot of folks to watch Gabe Davis spend 4 years here and at the end of it, still not be able to get on the same page as Allen.

Edited for accuracy

I think in one year that Hollins made more clutch plays than Davis did his entire time here. He also made 100x fewer mistakes, imo.

Honestly I saw that as more of a blown coverage by the Chiefs who were scrambling late and ended up with a slot corner in outside leverage when he should have been inside. That was more about the OC and Allen's recognition than it was about Davis, imo.

Mack Hollins has the clutch gene. Gabe Davis does not.

Wow, who'd have thought Kelvin Benjamin was actually marriage material?!

What in the actual $%*# is going on with this franchise.