Simon

I want you to justify that take by telling us what the Ravens D ran tonight. When you can't I'll be locking this thread eventually and re-opening the other WR thread which was significantly higher in quality and more informed. Not trying to be a jerk; just letting you know why it's going to happen.

Is he? I think his throwing shoulder took some minor damage and his head hit the ground hard several times.

Maybe not. But Babich did finally adjust out of that passive horseshlt late in the 2nd qrtr and it was working. I don't know if they could have kept getting away with it with Lewis, Spector, Hamlin and WIlliams out there instead of the starters, but some Raven sphincters were about to get tight.

That was about to be a one score game in the 3rd qrtr and the Bills with all the juice. It flipped everything. (Although with another half second, it might have been 6)

And Hamlin. It was outstanding work by their staff. And would have likely looked much different with Taron, Milano, Bernard and Cole Bishop.

I don't disagree. But if he saw that Coleman was coming open for 6 down there? I understand......

He made the mistake of thinking endzone there instead of turning to secure the catch. Greedy rookie but I think he's a learner. Nice footwork for a big man on the two back shoulders. Thought this was Brady's biggest failure to adjust tonight. Swings and flares would have created problems for those blitzes we could not deal with and the Bills ignored all that space.

Lewis, Spector, Hamlin I think

Yeah, I was kvetching about that in the game thread. Mid 3rd qrtr I couldn't remember them properly dealing with a single one.

He spent a lot of the game spying Lamar and Henry did most of his damage on the edges. He wasn't "good" but he wasn't given many opportunities outside the 3rd qrtr

I get the sense that the All22 is going to show us Coleman streaking up the seam past flat-footed DBs. But it was still a bad design and a dipshlt call right there

James Cook had acreage in both flats against that defense and Brady refused to adjust and Allen refused to look at it.

He hasn't won a playoff game in 10 years

We're decades beyond backups being very relevant in the NFL anymore, imo.

You'd be asking him to do something very complicated that he has never practiced. They might go with another LB instead but we're already starting all backups.

He cannot play the nickel in this D

As long as he doesn't get anybody hurt, he's irrelevant

Coleman was flying up the seam and I think the DBs were caught flatfooted but you couldn't see enough of the field to know for sure. The whole exchange was fouled up with Samuel hung out to dry against a rusher and Allen having not time to set. There might have been a TD down there, but ti was still stupid to call it right then.

I don't disagree with any of that. It was a gutless defense in the first half and they paid for it against a well-coached offense.

Please don't start new threads during games. Please don't start threads about circus barkers ever.

It's been good discussion and I wouldn't mind seeing it still going, but I don;'t want it turning into a screech fest right now. It will open up again tomorrow when we're all less stupid.

Taron Johnson for Cam Lewis is worth a TD or more by itself, imo. Then Milano and Bernard for Spector (who's been horrid) and Williams (who has struggled also) are a significant difference with their smarts, spacing, faster reads and better athletes. Subbing in Cole Bishop for Hamlin is a difference maker too. I think this would probably be a 23-20 game if we're at full strength. And I'll take Josh over Lamar in that kind of 4th qrtr

Yeah, they were doing it right off the bat. The Bills have made minimal effort to take advantage of the space it creates. Brady with a poor effort making adjustments that were apparent early

If Bishop hadn't got hurt in preseason, he would be already.

DaQuan Jones and Smoot have been good. The rest of them spent most of the game playing contain. That's mostly on coach, imo.