Hermes

Yes

Nah man, we gotta call the mafia..

Awesome?

That's just how the NFL is though, the close games like that are a part of the parity in the league. It's just the nature of the beast and not a trait that espouses the failures of a singular franchise. And man, being a Jets fan would suck, especially this year. You think you might have a solution at qb, Sanchez, Darnold, Wilson, they all suck, and then you go out and get a proven winner, Rodgers, and he blows his Achilles like 5 plays into the season. At least they have a defense that might carry them out of a good pick this year lol

I don't hate it. Except then would it be an endearing term. Like the B***** thing to do is win the superbowl.

That's a good point, but how many times did it come up when Brady was playing? I understand it, I just think that a community of adults shouldn't use the term like a bunch of children, when things go a little haywire. It's like you said. All fans, to some extent do this, but as "the best fans" in football shouldn't we as a collective hold ourselves to a higher standard. Than lamenting past failures and looking for any shred of correlation between now and then

Exactly! A game where there's 'essentially' no Bills relevance this term is used to describe what exactly? Please, explain how/why you use(d) it? My feelings are irrelevant in this discussion. This a term that's used almost explicitly in a DEROGATORY manner to describe the Bills on a Bills forum. Why should that be allowed?

I'm here today to make a formal request to the incredible mod team here on Two Bills Drive. I'm sick and tired of fans on this forum using the term "Billsy" as a disingenuous way to compare anything regarding NFL teams, in particular our beloved Bills, to the way the Bills have performed in the past. I find that this term is childish, pedantic, and frankly detrimental to the Bills organization as a whole. I would whole heartedly support the censoring of this term as many other words are censored on these boards. Admittedly, I'm probably in the minority here, so I propose, we have a community-wide vote and the results stand.

I'm glad that I never have to watch a Bills QB throw like that. Tua's had a few that bad this game

Seriously. An impressive heads up play

That's certainly a valid point and it's not time to panic because they're still in a playoff position. If management essentially "resigned" themselves to playing an extra game, potentially away, then why not. I mean realistically the team probably plays better away from the elements in January. What if they said that wherever they finish is fine since they have so much faith in the team to put it all together and win 4 games in a row at the end of the year, regardless of venue. They say seeds 1-7 are all (comparably) valuable because they're all going to the dance. 1 stands above the rest with the bye and 2-7 carry similar weight since it's the same number of games.. the travel and fans might be an impact but otherwise it's nothing when it could be in a dome or nice weather somewhere away from Buffalo.

I mean the Bills could pull out all the stops against the Pats or they could save the sauce for the upcoming stretch. Why would you put plays on tape for the Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, etc. When the team is capable of winning games with a gameplan designed to "fail forward". Which, in essence, is about working different concepts in order that the offense can do more later in the season when the games mean more and the stakes are higher. Despite what many on here believe, these guys at the top are all incredibly smart. And to say that there aren't varying levels of long and short term strategies that teams implement (across games, months, a season, longer) is asinine.

If the 2008 Giants can win against the Patriots, it's fair to say that as long as you're in can make some magic happen. The Bills have battled it out for the 1st seed the past few years and maybe they collectively took a less aggressive approach to stacking and are focusing on implementing different gameplans in order to be able to attack and control the game in different ways. The players know this and are only working specific sets, formations, and plays. Late in the year, being multiple and having the ability to shift gears, so to speak, allows you to take a varied and stratecally beneficial approach to in game situations. (I.e the Bills have the ball with 7 minutes left to go in the game, they can run a 7 minute drive to win. Or 4 minutes. Maybe your defense gets a turn over and you want to attack now. Or slow ball it to get the defense recovered after a long opposing drive)

I honestly considered looking it up but I didn't want @BillnutinHouston to think I cared enough for that. Contextually it's actually pretty hilarious..

Maybe in the minds of some of the players, yes. Could be what the meetings about? Idk, never know. You're talking about guys with huge egos who've been playing at one of the highest levels in the sport. I'm sure Mac Jones really scared them into being the most focused they could be for that game.

I don't know who that is so I'll take it as a compliment. I guess I should assume all of the players in the Bills locker room are as mentally and emotionally week as countless posters on the board (including you?). Any thought to the contrary are 'moronic and ill-conceived'

All they care about is endorsements obviously 🙄 I'm talking about the big picture. If the Bills win the Superbowl this year who in God's name (besides some ingrates on this board,) will care about a week 7 loss to the Pats. Get over the doom and gloom narrative that the team sucks if they don't blow every team out and win 50-0. Sure they might have some issues. Its week 7! They're currently in a playoff position and there's still 10 games for them to play. Yeah they lost to the Pats and of course they care in this moment. But do you think for one second the Bills players care enough that they're going to throw in the towel after a couple bad weeks. Do they care so much that they lost to the Pats they're gonna mope all season long and Josh Allen and Co. are already looking forward to the draft? You know I actually think that's what the players meeting was about. If they can suck enough to get Marvin Harrison Jr next year. That's why Von called it cause it's in his GM dna. They need a WR 2 to compete so this whole season is lost. The defense let Mac Jones work down the field for the win in week 7. I guess the season is over. We should all just call it as fans and boycott the season and root for a top pick in the draft

That's the thing. The Bills have been here before, for years, and they know as long as they make the dance they can go all the way. Who cares how they get there, as long as they do. In a vacuum anything can look as good or bad as you want to make it out to look, but at the end of the day you have to look at everything else going on. Sure, I'd love it if the Bills blew every team out en route to a superbowl win. How many teams have done that? How many teams have been THE team all season long and then smash the superbowl? It's just not a realistic proposition. At the end of the day the team that wins is typically the team that's hot at the right time. We can all B word and complain about how bad they look and how they're going nowhere or we can enjoy the ride and see how things play out. As they say hope springs eternal, and I'm just here for the ride

The defense is in a transition period from losing Milano, White, and Jones, while missing Oliver this past game. There's definitely cause for concern regarding the viability of a top notch defense when when a quarter of starters are injured but I'm willing to see how the season plays out. No one knows what might happen the rest of the season, maybe the Bills win out, maybe they lose out. That's why you play the games. To say they're a trash team because they've had a rough start is asinine when we've literally watched the Patriots do it for 20 years. Obviously not every year but some years. It's not about how you start, it's how you finish

A team that knows the Bills more intimately than 28 other team in the league and is literally fighting to stay relevant. The coach of that team has how many superbowl rings and playoff experience? It's so easy to brush of as a casual fan, but to think Belichek isn't using this win to tell his team the season isn't lost is a joke. He's trying to rally the troops and save his legacy, and what a way to do it..

At this point in the Bills "window" they already know what the score is.... winning a superbowl or bust. Now, I know a division game should probably mean something..., but at the end of the day the Patriots are not a threat to the Bills playoffs chances, in the least. The team knows this (unfortunately) and doesn't view these weaker teams as threats, either. Which has led to the lackluster performances we've grown so (dis/un?)fond of, the past 2-3 years. The issue is that the Bills aren't some up-and-coming team that other teams are caught offguard by. They have been a juggernaut for the past 4-5 seasons, regularly taking the lunch money of the weaker teams, especially those in their division.. At this point, every team that the Bills play against look at this roster as a litmus test, of sorts, to see where they rank in the NFL hierarchy. While the Bills, are trying to do what they can to play their best football in the late season and playoffs. It's a stark difference from the games games they played against the Patriots as "our superbowl" from the drought era. And that's the learning curve that the team has fallen behind on. For a lot of the teams in the league it's obvious that the Bills are their superbowl. They want to say "Yeah we might have finished 2-15, but one of those wins was against the Bills!" The other team's players get extra jazzed up to make a play against Allen (or Diggs, et al). It's easier to do that, than say, Allen or Diggs getting up to make a play on some JAGs. They'd rather make plays against the top teams and top players (it just means more). What we are watching is a team that is trying to work through the kinks early in the season rather than later and I'm all for it. I'd rather see them lose on the late TD to the Pats instead of the Chiefs. Let them work things out now and head into the bye at 7-5 or 6-6 (or better). I'm sure it wouldn't surprise anyone to see them finish 12-5 or 11-6 in either scenario. Unless you have no faith of course. But I digress. What I've seen from this team is a concerted effort to win games in a variety of ways. To be able to go on long clock draining drives (even, at times, to the detriment of the offense) and control the game a different way. Sure, the offense could go no huddle and score almost at will, but at the end of the day how sustainable is that really. I'm sure teams will figure it out or the offense will burn itself out eventually. Why not save the squeeze for crunch time? When it comes to the defense, it has almost certainly been as disappointing as the offense as of late. (Although they get a minor pass with the injury situation). But, It's frustrating to see all of the blitzes and manufactured pressures not hitting home and then Mac and cheese making the defense look like swiss. Hopefully this is less of a trend and more of an aberration for the rest of the season. The true test for the defense is coming up soon and I'm excited to see how they respond. If they're still sucking hopefully the offense can regroup and pave the way for more wins. It's almost time to turn on the gas and see what teams can handle the pressure. I know the Bills can, and hopefully will, ramp up the intensity when it comes down to it, and I, for one, can't wait for these late season games to separate the cream from the crop. I know things seem dire but of all the teams the Bills are behind in the standings only the Chiefs have a true game up on them. On top of the fact that the Bills themselves are still in position to make the playoffs if the season ended today. I like those odds. Go Bills!

Honestly, that list is generally underwhelming. Out of the 25 or so WRs only a handful, or so, of them would really help out the team now. On top of the fact that not only did Beane pass on these guys but so did (in most cases) every other GM. You're also looking at things in vacuum and not the overall team composition and needs at the time of the drafts. It's easy to look back and say the Bills or any other team should have drafted Brady, Brees, or Wilson (RIP). The hard part is deciding in the moment who will help your team now and in the future

Dammit Ela.... I mean Benford

The fact that you can own, makes it better. We'll see very soon how much he impacts a defense that's already playing lights. Imo it can't hurt to have a HOF player joining the fold

Seriously. Everything happens so fast there's no chance that CB has a prayer making a play