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At the 50 yard line.

They do? What’s current method of lifting them nowadays? Blood sacrifice to Santa Claus?

That’s pure fantasy. The organization does not and cannot live in a vacuum. They are part of a larger entity. They have numerous corporate partnerships. They have innumerable fans that spend money on them. Head in sand is impossible.

Due process by the prosecutor’s office is exactly what just cleared him.

Which crap? Going to a horse race? Golfing? Raising money for charity? yeah it’s all pretty horrific.

That’s you believing their PR. That’s a you problem. The Bills are a business.

Araiza and the Bills are not and never were “family.” They were his employer for a short period of time.

Then re-read it. It was pretty clear. The prosecutors basically told her to her face that none of her claims were supported by any of the gathered evidence. She made up a story.

Yes - did you read the story? There are multiple short videos of sex acts with this accuser. None of which involved Araiza. Edit: And none of which support her claims of violence or forcible sexual assault, according to the prosecutors. Seriously read the thing man. It’s not that long.

I get it man. In a perfect world maybe that’s a feasible and equitable solution. It absolutely will not happen. If you want to start that pressure campaign on the league though, please do I’ll upvote it I guess.

Right? It’s funny some want to correct a grave injustice to one guy by doing an injustice to another guy, who absolutely earned his job and his extension.

well one reason might be Araiza isn’t interested in coming back to the Bills after cutting him over this stuff. You’ll never know the full story and even if the Bills were amenable to doing it he might just say no. He’s pretty much exonerated at this point. He’ll have other suitors.

and that’s fine - you’re obviously more excited about punters than I ever could be. look, the kid got railroaded. It sucks. I’m sure Beane is reading the same **** tonight and extremely mad at all the same people we are mad at. He should get another chance in the NFL (which I think he will, given he signed and then backed out of the Mexican league deal right around the time this meeting between the prosecutors and the (edit: ALLEGED) victim happened.) And who knows, maybe he ends up back on the Bills one day.

I’m not following did I say the underlined?

I mean he’s just a punter and they’re expendable. Again, just business. I couldn’t care less who the punter is. It has minuscule affect on their chances in the long run. Beyond the team though, yes I hope Araiza is able to get some sort of vindication beyond this prosecution report. Whether it be through a countersuit or something else I believe he deserves that at least. But the Bills don’t owe him squat.

not going to get all into this for a 3rd time but he technically did not engage in statutory rape based on the fact she was 17 alone. Or at least he was not guilty of it.

YES! thank you. You finally got it. Everything else is a lie. It’s a form of entertainment nothing more.

yeah I think that’s BS too. This should be as widely reported as the initial story was. That has nothing to do with the Bills and owing Araiza “due process” - that has a specific legal definition (not cultural) and doesn’t apply to the Bills. All of your statements on this I agree with. Not his, sorry.

yes it was a terrible injustice done to him by a professional organization that did not want to deal with that **** and had no obligation to deal with it. the only one truly at fault here is the accuser who made it up. There’s no need to nail him to multiple crosses.

Not when there is legitimate, competing business interests at stake. The Buffalo Bills are not in the business of ensuring Matt Araiza gets “his day in court” or whatever without penalty by keeping him employed. The Buffalo Bills are in the business of making money and (hopefully) winning games.

You think the other owners are seriously going to entertain giving the Bills a roster exemption to carry a second punter?

Jesus this is ridiculous even from you. They didn’t cave to “fan irrationality” they made the right call at the time for the team. In no way does having a rostered player on the roster with rape allegations hanging over him help the locker room. And now you want them to cut the established punter who did fine for them last season and re-sign this guy just because? He’ll get another chance. no NFL team is subject to due process obligations, you nonce. You should stop

One of the things that gave me pause initially and thought looked bad for Araiza was the fact that this accuser did do something that many actual rape victims unfortunately do not do - go in immediately (next day) and get a rape kit done. That, combined with all these prosecutor findings (which I do not doubt at all), just doesn’t add up to me, unless she was attempting some actual malicious s***.

Is this full 200 page transcript floating around somewhere, or was it just leaked to press and the reporters pulled details?

besides the accuser herself, yeah those BMB women should be the first to say something publicly. Hard to expect an actual apology, but maybe an acknowledgment? I wouldn’t hold my breath though.