[NE fans are hating life right now. Lookie here...]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

Kraft being charged with a felony is not football related? Because the name Epstein and Trump was mentioned means the discussion  has to go away?  Sad to here cancel culture exists in TBD now. 
 

 

i mean, it’s related to football to the same degree the Russ Brandon scandal and firing was I suppose. 

[NE fans are hating life right now. Lookie here...]

Just now, wppete said:

Discussion on here yesterday about Kraft authorities looking to charge Kraft with a felony was moved from The Stadium forum section. Bury it away from the majority of people on here. 

ah yeah I remember that. Probably because it’s not football related and people were comparing Kraft to Jeffrey Epstein and whatnot.

[NE fans are hating life right now. Lookie here...]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

Be careful powers that be on here not very happy with any negative discussion of the Patriots. 

what?

[Texans want the Bills; Plan to start McCarron at QB today]

4 hours ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said:

this was similar scenario for us last week.  No way Pats lose to Dolphins this week.

 

and yet NO ONE was saying sit Allen vs. Patriots.

you sure about that?

[Disputed -St. Doug to be fired after the season]

You hate to see it...

[we need a big receiver on the field for the end of games tired of this *****]

2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Look no further than the Sabres for the worst trades possible- just sayin’

You can just say it but the Sabres have no relevance here. Ownership’s not making these decisions.

[Let's for a minute flip the Offense & Defense.... Where would the Bills be?]

19 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

And I'd be on here a lot less as would be excited watching the team march up and down the field.

 

Bills fans wouldn't accept a Defense as bad as this Offense (in terms of ranking) 

 

And KC beat Baltimore this year.  

No argument there, I agree.

[Sports Misery Index]

Eh. i don't feel too bad. Not as bad as say, san diego or oakland, who are both being stripped of their teams.

 

and of course cleveland gets a bump because of lebron and the title he handed that city.

[Let's for a minute flip the Offense & Defense.... Where would the Bills be?]

If we flipped and the bills had a top 3 offense and a lower third defense I think we’d be exactly where the chiefs were last year in the AFC. Maybe one slot lower with the emergence of Jackson in Baltimore 

[Poll: Thru Playoffs, should "this college guy a good fit?" threads be moved to the College Football forum?]

Absolutely. There is plenty of time in the offseason for draft talk.

[Josh Allen 2019 Regular Season at 58.8% Completion Percentage]

23 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

If you turn out to be wrong? You already are wrong based on your first 16 games to next 16 games theory. Allen has improved in his 11 starts after his first 16 starts already. And if Allen never improves another iota beyond his current 11, while somewhat disappointing, he's still reached that low level franchise QB benchmark like a Eli Manning, Stafford or Newton. But if he improves just a bit, which I guess you think he might, then he's definitely a legitimate franchise QB.

Zero also thought the Chiefs were going to go perfect 19-0 this year so I wouldn’t take him so seriously. 

[Tre/Allen for Mahomes Outcome]

4 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

White & Allen > Mahomes. Mahomes is not going to be around long & his knees & gait look like my grandma’s. No way that dude is around in 10 years. He’s injury prone.

You aren’t serious with this comment are you? Never seen Mahomes play huh. That’s okay.

[Tre/Allen for Mahomes Outcome]

1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Although Josh is still developing, can we put to rest the 2017 trade down was not a disaster?

 

KC netted Mahones while the Bills landed White and then Allen the following year with the draft capital.  Seems like a win-win deal right now. 

certainly not a disaster (so far) but it’s too early to say it’s a win-win. I’d think we’d have to wait until Allen gets renewed (or gets to the Super Bowl ?) in order to say that. KC got a MVP QB in the deal, so I have to lean their way right now.

[Ever read this board and think how the heck is this team 10-5?]

18 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I don’t need to debate a person who clearly every post already proves my point when you make my argument for me why bother?

Never asked for a debate, just some clarity. You start a thread on a discussion (key word there) board complaining about complainers and lumping together a wide variety of complaints made by a wide variety of people and saying, what exactly? Can’t tell because you just dismiss anyone asking what you’re actually trying to say. You want all criticisms reserved for losing seasons? 

[Ever read this board and think how the heck is this team 10-5?]

19 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Once again you also proved my point some people are perpetually never happy 

Yes it is and I like how badly you feel this franchise is doing 

right. So you really don’t have a point. Not one you care to elaborate on at least. Everyone is happy the team is in the playoffs. 

[Josh Allen 2019 Regular Season at 58.8% Completion Percentage]

38 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I agree. There's still more lessons for Josh to be had but I think he's right on schedule. He was always going to be a 3-4 year project. Other than an occasional minor setback he's improving every game. Get him a true #1 wr, true #1 rb and hopefully Knox can secure the ball. Then we'll see Josh explode on the scene. 

i think Motor end up a true no. 1 back someday but besides that I agree. Look what Allen did with just competent receivers this year in brown and beasley. A dominant WR will help immensely.

[Josh Allen 2019 Regular Season at 58.8% Completion Percentage]

On 12/25/2019 at 8:44 PM, CincyBillsFan said:

 

This is why I don't understand those that seem to be rooting against Allen.  At least it looks to me like that's what they're doing.

 

This is the dilemma facing every team with a young, potential franchise QB.  They have to make a bet early in their career whether they're the guy of not and then build an offense around them.  And I agree that the Bill's brain trust, which has seen Allen up close a lot more then we have, believe he is the guy.  And I also think that based on what I've seen he's the guy. But the risk is that if he isn't the Bills are SCREWED big time. 

 

As you note the last thing anybody wants to do is start over at QB.  That's why I struggle to wrap my head around some of the posters who are so damn negative.  They seem almost gleeful when Allen struggles.  Don't they understand what a disaster it would be if Allen stopped improving?

 

 

 

 

My theory is that people that are dead set against Allen (and you’re right - there are a few) are lumped together with many more people (like me) who are simply commenting on his struggles and inconsistencies. It’s a bit frustrating just to point out things like his footwork or something else relatively minor for a 2nd year QB and get dismissed, as if I’m implying he can never improve and the bills will always be a WC team at best with Allen at QB. Just my sense on the situation. I’ve seen and commented on his improvements in year 2 and I’ve seen nothing to suggest he’s not going to continue to improve.

[Ever read this board and think how the heck is this team 10-5?]

22 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Thank you for proving my point 

what is your point, exactly? That critics should shut up and enjoy the ride? Contribute to the echo chamber or don’t contribute at all? Maybe I missed some nuance in your OP.

[11-5 sounds so much better than 10-6]

Just now, LB48 said:

Starters?  They only have so many back-ups that are NFL quality.  Duke, Gore, Yeldon etc.

Fine by me - if they can go out and get the W with their backups I say go out and get it. But 11 is not much more meaningful than 10. That’s all I’m saying.

[11-5 sounds so much better than 10-6]

1 minute ago, LB48 said:

The Bills haven't won 11 games in a season since 1999.  That's 20 years ago.  Go for it!

when’s the last time they won 10? How about the last time they won a playoff game? Shouldn’t that be the focus, instead of risking injury to starters to secure an arbitrary number?

[11-5 sounds so much better than 10-6]

11 minutes ago, PUNT750 said:

Let's just beat the JETS and get to 11 wins.  That puts us in the same  category as the Chiefs, Patriots etc. 

but new england has 12 wins. Chiefs can get to 12. Are 11 wins in the same “category” as 12 in some way that 10 are not?

[Ever read this board and think how the heck is this team 10-5?]

48 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

People don’t say the Bills suck? Seriously? Read the game threads. Read the post loss threads. It’s overreaction upon overreaction. They explicitly say McD should be fired, Allen sucks, Beane hasn’t put together a decent team, O line sucks, Daboll should be fired, blah, blah, blah. 
 

Here’s reality: this is a team in the MIDDLE of a rebuild by competent people. An up and coming coach, an extremely solid FO and a very good core of young players. On top of that, the cap has been handled properly and that, amongst the other things, boded well for the future. 

 

The future is bright. Accept it! ? 

I am with you on the immediate post-loss threads, they tend to be the most hyperbolic and least thoughtful threads. 
 

But you realize what the game day threads are - they are for real time commentary. So there are going to be multiple negative comments after every negative play (and positive comments after positive plays.) It’s not overreaction, it’s just the nature of those threads and what they are there for.

7 minutes ago, Magox said:

Vegas had the Bills winning 6 games going into the season.

 

So there is that.

yes I am aware I have the over when it was 6.5. The poster I replied to said “no one here thought...”

[Ever read this board and think how the heck is this team 10-5?]

5 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

I don't really know how many people actually thought the Bills were a playoff team on here.

 

I really didn't have a prediction for the season myself, because I am always wrong. ?

that’s cool, but they are out there. Some of them were probably just being optimistic, but others looked at the schedule closely and saw 10-11 wins. 

[Ever read this board and think how the heck is this team 10-5?]

1 hour ago, njbuff said:

There isn't one person here who thought this team would be 10-5 going into their last game of the season.

 

In game though, the Bills have provided frustration this year as they haven't had a dominating performance from start to finish in any game.

 

But I think this team is pretty solid across the board and I hope they only continue to grow into that championship contender for many years to come.

Well that’s simply not true, and you could easily look back at season prediction threads to see for yourself how wrong you are. Many, many posters (and fans in general) genuinely saw a possible 9, 10, or 11 win team back in August.

[Joe B’s All 22 Review: Allen and Edmunds Struggle Big Time vs NE]

7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

Agreed that 17 points is not horrible. That's very fair. You're going to get fewer chances against NE. But when you get those chances, you still have to hit them, or rather a large percentage of them.

 

Josh had plays here that he just botched, and particularly early in the game. That's not acceptable just because it's the Patriots.  The two plays where Knox was open for potential TDs ... oh, man did that hurt.

can’t say it any better than that.