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Kincaid is a major disappointment this year, don’t know what the deal is, but he’s a non-factor.

Who would they get that would be good enough to keep them “competitive”. Today should have been an audition for Lance in the 2nd half, he’s the only one with tools to even be a legitimate QB on that team, even though he’s looked pretty awful in every opportunity, there’s no time like the present to try to get him some time. If he’s good, you have a trade-able asset for the draft next year.

Has anyone ever fired the head coach AND the interim coach in the same season?

Btw Murray might actually be good.

The Jets looked really good on that drive and then choked. I don’t know what the real issue with that team is, but I hate having them on the schedule late in the season, they have enough talent to screw up playoff seeding.

Good lord this rag tag team of WRs is not enough without Kincaid. Samuel has to step up BIG or we might as well not play next week. Really hope at least Cooper is back next week.

Never had it, that’s why he’s never won a damn thing in college too. He’s a quiet/non ####### Jay Cutler.

That’s garbage, the review should have at least moved it closer.

That’s going to be tough to overturn, but I hope they do

Nah that’s the chicks he’s cheating on his wife with.

A hospital bed?

I think we’ll know for sure if he’s added to the PS at the bye. I would expect they would bring him in then, spend some time getting up to playing shape and be ready to go the last 2-3 games of the year. That should give him time to be ready for the playoffs. If he’s not back by then, I’d pretty much consider it a pipe dream. While I’d love to have him back over Hamlin, I hope he stays retired if there’s ANY risk he could be seriously injured due to his neck condition. These guys deserve a great life after the game, I hope he wouldn’t risk it if there’s any more risk than “normal” out there.

Benford would, Elam would not. That is who I was speaking of.

As is the scheme.

I’m fine w RZ, but why is he even out there between the 20’s?

All well and good, but why scheme so much for Mack Hollins?

Gabe Davis had 225 in a playoff game, see how one game shouldn’t be used as a gauge of a guy’s overall ability? When you catch a couple bombs in a game, it’s easy to look like a dominant performance when you look at the stats, doesn’t mean it really mattered much.

They are both washed. Not completely, but they are shells of their past. Neither one will be making huge contributions to their new teams for any extended period of time. These are just guys on the back end of their careers, Hop probably lasts longer bc he never predicated his game on speed and he has amazing hands. Cooper has a history of drops and a lot of his success came from speed, albeit smooth speed. Both got moved because they are at the end of their contracts and not part of their team’s future plans. Like it or leave it, you don’t get any quality, young talent, for picks that low. Yeah, Coop is what we needed, cheap. Hop still has juice, I hate that he went to KC.

I hate it, but you are spot on and I wouldn’t pay him 20+, but someone probably will. If he can command a few more targets, he’s going to have stats that push the conversation to that range. This is one of the many reasons I thought Beane dropped the ball not double dipping at WR this past draft.

No, he’s just not. If you take all 2.5 of his seasons COMBINED, he doesn’t have the stats to be All-Pro. This year, he’s barely even on pace for 1k yards (17 games projection), with about 90 catches and 5 TDs. and it’s his “break out” year. He’s good, one of my favorites on the team, but Pro Bowler is a stretch and All Pro is absolutely insane. It would be a great year for him as he has stepped up a lot if he can pull in 1k yards on 90 catches. I thought he would have a shot at 75 and 800 this year, he’s doing a bit more, that’s awesome. I also thought Samuel would be getting some of his targets, unfortunately, Samuel has been one of the bigger busts of the season thus far. Love the guy, tough as nails, catches everything and makes things happen with the ball in his hands, but he’s no where near the elite level of Jefferson, Lamb, etc to be considered in the All Pro conversation. Cook is gone, Davis can replace him effectively as the lead and Johnson is more than capable as a back up. You can fill the RB stable with vet min guys and be fine. If Cook was the passing threat they want him to be, he’d be tougher to replace, but he’s inconsistent at best on that front. You have to let a guy like him walk, he’s not worth what he will be paid, which will likely be in the 10M range.

Both are washed or you wouldn’t be getting them for peanuts.

Yep. Poor drafting ( in terms of major impact players), leads to over spending to get impact players and unfortunately, because they already were up against the cap, they have gone for older impact players so they would be “affordable” and now they are dead weight. Also resigning their own, many times before it made sense to and using the 5th year option on players instead of extending when it made sense or trading those players for a guaranteed return instead of hoping a comp pick would be worth while, all set us up to fail. Beane has done a lot of good, not saying he hasn’t, but he’s got some major strategy/execution flaws that are haunting the roster right now. I’ve said it a bunch, but JA is this regimes saving grace, without him, this roster can’t win and without him McBeane would be flipping McBurgers. That said, McD was supposedly in control of the drafting when they failed to take Mahomes because he wasn’t prepared to be in control (shame on the Pegulas for handling the situation the way they did too). So you could be looking at a whole different landscape had they not traded away Mahomes and then the Jefferson pick later in an attempt to mask the fact their QB had zero talent around him and they didn’t believe they could get a WR in a historic WR class. Which circles back to spending more to get older talent and then being burned by the older talent/dead cap, but I digress. Then this draft, in another loaded WR class, the focus was getting their 3rd round pick back that they gave up to patch a hole they missed in in the draft and refused to address in FA, so they had to trade for a bandaid. Missing the opportunity to land BTJ or others and instead moving down for second tier guys, again, not impact players. So that AGAIN leads to flipping a 3rd to patch a hole that was obvious to anyone with eyes to get a WR mid year, again, old talent who either will be gone at the end of the year or cost a fortune to keep.

Glad some people have noticed the competition level, the teams they have beaten have an average of about 3 wins on the year, nothing to get excited about yet. If they can even hang with the Lions, I’ll have more optimism. I expect the back half of this season to be ugly. 3rd or 4th seed is most likely, depending on the health of the Texans. The rest of the division is so far back, it’ll take a miracle to not win it, but there’s a strong chance they lose at least 3 more games and 4 or 5 wouldn’t shock me. Unfortunately, I believe we are still just playing for a draft pick.

Must be nice to have a talented roster AND money to burn, what’s that like?

Just remember Beane gave up the most of ANY team to acquire a WR after choosing not to draft more than one in the prior draft and completely whiffing on their big FA signing. So let’s not get too high and mighty. In what trade has Beane “gotten the better” of anyone? Please explain this nonsense take.