DCofNC

Agreed, upto the point of some of the clear Franchise guys are now showing their age and need to be moved out of that category. For the sake of argument, last year I would have said: Maholmes Allen Rodgers Brady Burrow Wilson In my mind, these are the only guys that have proven they are Franchise QBs. I know some people want Herbert on the list, I think he’s in the “really good” group and still trying to cement that title. This year, with age showing, in my mind, the list is: Maholmes Allen Burrow The list didn’t really change so much as guys have fallen off, but that’s primarily due to playing past their time and IDK what happened to Wilson, but he has been awful this year and trending down for the past couple years. I was blaming his relative struggles in Seattle on injury and lack of surrounding talent, I think that’s out the window with Geno having a career year (not saying much) and Russ having a career worst year. Again, I leave Herbert in the really good class, still not what I would consider a franchise guy yet. There’s people that will argue I’m working on Herbert and Dak and Hurts and Lamar etc, imo you will never here a fan base wondering if they should let a guy go or flat out wishing they could get rid of a real Franchise QB and said QB should be making the team better. So Lamar misses on the fact he’s great, but limited skill set, Hurts has to prove it for more than 10 games, Herbert can’t seem to elevate a team, Dak… meh, Murray is laughable and the 3 guys you would never get anybody calling for their heads are your Franchise players. Just saw this and you said it better than me, agree completely.

Honestly, that’s pretty solid, especially with that offense. Good for him, he got a shot and is doing something with it.

combined with the fact there’s not much talent at WR for the Bills, he was getting more opportunities than he may on many teams. Now he’s trying to take catches away from Diggs, Davis and McKenzie to get anything.

Klein is well better than what we had at LB, not sure why they let him walk in the first place, but as an Edmunds hater, I even laugh at the idea of him being better than Edmunds. It took Edmunds 5 years to make a noticeable difference, but he’s finally doing it, I’m guessing he must finally be old enough to go to the bars so he’s getting great coaching from Bills fans now.

He was a 5th round pick, expecting much of him is foolish at best. The fact he made the active roster is a solid accomplishment.

The difference is he’s not playing Iowa’s competition. He bull rushed mid western farmers and beat them. The Bills got him, made him lose 20lbs and sent him against competition he’s never seen. He was never fast, never had moves, just pushed guys out of the way that don’t play in the NFL. It’s the equivalent of a guy who made it as a starter in D2 vs small town high school teams. Yeah he’s clearly better than the competition, but he’s not the best of the best. Fact of the matter, there are only 32 men starting at any one position in the NFL and there are hundreds of guys starting at the same position across all the D1 schools, the likelihood a guy that’s not flat out dominant, with elite traits, ever becoming impactful against the very best in the world is negligible. Oh and just imagine the impact the players the Bills Mafia would have picked by popular vote, vs Beane outsmarting the world and taking those 2.. you would have a starting RB and a ProBowl center/Guard.. but trust the process without question 🫡

Well that sounds great, but look at Reid’s track record for wins. Those two are the difference in him winning titles.

If he really was ready to go, I think he would have already signed, needs time to jump in and learn an O. Gotta think there’s more of a possibility he won’t be ready till next year. As much as I’d love to have him, if he’s not ready this year, it’s pointless.

Yeah, Cook pick wasn’t much better when Beane immediately came out and said he’s not a full time player.. so you knowingly and willingly drafted a 3rd down back with your second round pick because you missed out on McKissic, a 3M a year player. Now they traded another back and a pick to acquire a better version of McKissic, after drafting Cook.. Great use of draft capital. I don’t even want to start on Bernard. Honestly, Elam better work out, because you PLANNED to get not a single real starter the whole draft after the first round.

Maybe I should re-phrase. His early round drafting is mediocre outside of Allen. Late rounds he’s done fairly well. The lack of attention to the offense is offensive.

That would be great.

Could it be possible you are suffering from a delusion by attributing a couple of clutch plays he’s made as part of his character, while the truth is, he’s mediocre and not clutch? The stats would say that is more likely. For who? The roster is pathetically weak at WR.

Sad part is, it was barely noticeable he was out bc Allen had been under fire all year long anyway, just coming from a different place this time. I don’t know if it’s a scouting issue or a priority thing, but if they don’t help JA out, they are never going to get the returns. It looks so much like the Carolina w Cam theory of 1 Playmaker and a QB can carry the O, spend all the money on D and then play a soft ass scheme so the playmakers you paid for don’t have an impact anyway. Great way to find yourself sitting at home with an MVP QB on ice in January.

Hines has never been much of a RB, he’s a pass catcher with the labor RB. Honestly, it would be more interesting to have him work out of the slot and occasionally motion into the backfield to cause problems. I do think they’ve done a horrible job using him, but expecting him to be much of a factor in the run game is misguided.

Both inexplicable picks at the time and now everyone sees why many of us were calling them wasted picks. How much better would this team be w Creed Humphrey? A LOT. Beane has done a lot of good, but drafting isn’t his best suite.

I’m thinking it has to do with the arm arrogance.

There’s rarely a physical contest, he never turns to see the ball, much less battle for it.

Did Tre retire at the half?

Sure looks like it right now, not really a realistic idea as of last year, but I wouldn’t have been upset if they moved on from the coaching staff after that :13 debacle, not like it was the first time McClappy’s awful coaching has lost them big games.

That throw is what makes Josh special. I think the announcer said there are “5 guys ever that could make that throw get there before it was broken up” , I don’t know if that’s true, but I don’t think I could name more than that so maybe it is. I don’t put a lot of stock in yards gained, show me points and execution when it matters, the last 4 games, that’s been the struggle. Hopefully they get that figured out.

Jackson is Levi Wallace 2.0, he never looks for the ball, he’s just a penalty or big play waiting to happen. I was excited about him, I see why he was where he was on the depth chart, it’s where he belongs. If he’s you 5th CB you are in solid shape, when he’s your best, welll good luck.

Absolutely not. The team is battling through right now and getting wins, that’s a good thing. They are playing like garbage in comparison to the beginning of the year / the expectations they set. With the D missing 5/6 starters and another playing banged up, it’s not hard to see what the issue is. Now the lack of talent at WR was something I was concerned with going into the year and it’s really proving to be a problem.. OBJ would be a hell of an add.

Davis is a bust in comparison to the expectations put on him this year, people wanted him to be a 1A, he’s a 3B. The team has no legit #2. Allen is not right, the receivers are not helping. The D can’t cut it with this many injuries. if they don’t get healthy, this season is toast regardless of the regular season record.

Of course.

Thought the halftime show was pathetic, then they let the Bills back on the field.