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Cutting/trading Poyer after this year is over 5M in savings, or it’s a $7.5M hit to keep him, I don’t see him back, but maybe that’s just me.

😂 , I suppose you think the Bills are better. If you put the same QB out there with either team the Browns would win more. JA is the only reason the Bills are relevant, Cleveland has a more talented roster than Buffalo.

Yeah, dead cap is 2M next year, he’s gone unless he plays really well this year, which I don’t really expect.

Hyde , Poyer, Oliver, Gabe, Morse, White all gone. Milano extended, Dawkins and Knox will be re-worked or traded. 2025 will see Miller and Diggs re-worked or gone. The draft will have to be fruitful.

You don’t go in the first round without talent. He should come in motivated to try to get a shot in the NFL. Expectations? None. That said, worth a shot to see if you can strike gold.

I think you are wrong, but I’m hoping you are right, that team has the talent to be the class of the AFC if he returns to form.

Look at what happened to all of the QBs for those teams and ask yourself if you think the Bills would even win a single game without JA. I don’t see the Bills winning 13 games this year even playing 17. Competition is better, all three teams up mentioned went extended periods without their starting QB, his argument makes perfect sense. Those teams improved their rosters and the Bills were stagnant, or possibly regressing on talent over all. It’s bound to be the JA show again.

Damn.. Cleveland stands to be very dangerous this year.

Multiple factors at play here. 1) Josh is one of , if not the best QB when blitzed and you don’t want him out of the pocket, he creates chaos. 2) Many of the teams we played have a good interior of their DL and the middle of our line is/was horribly soft, do dumping people in his lap wasn’t a problem. 3) The WRs sucked and ran long routes, he HAD to wait and teams knew they could get to him with that extra time. 4) Like Maholmes, you won’t stop him, but you can slow him, more men in coverage is a better odds of doing so. If the line play picks up, teams will be forced to blitz him to get pressure and he will have time to pick that up and make a team pay for it, if the line is a hot mess again… well.. see reason 2.

Ummm no. He’s washed at this point. Would be fun to throw him and lil bro out there at the same time, but we have too many RBs already.

Yeah… and he kept the job. I don’t love him, but the guy continued to prove people wrong and even when he is not in this system, he’s done just fine. He’s an acceptable starter and a great CB3. He’s essentially a less instinctive Tre White, athletically speaking. The only real issue is awareness when the ball is in the air, not an uncommon problem. He’s not elite, but I would gladly take him back.

Before playing w Allen, McKenzie was cut because he couldn’t handle a punt and wasn’t even viewed as worth keeping as a gadget player for the O with all that speed and shiftiness. So is it that McKenzie is the better player or he got more targets , with a far superior QB in a pass-centric offense, where he was the 3rd WR (4th option) by default?

If he gets used, I think he could well be the biggest value of this FA period for the Bills. He was actually very good w Miami. If Davis can’t step up, he may get pushed out. Shorter couldn’t do jack crap in college as an absolute physical freak, to think he’s going to step up the NFL and be anything more than a ST gunner is a joke.

Bring him back.

I’m surprised the Bills are that high, basically saying they have Diggs over Kupp.

Yeah, all that.

So many great choices available, Payton, Faulk, Thuman, LT, Sayers, etc. even McCaffrey, Eckler, etc today would be nice. I think I’d go with Adrian Peterson, just slightly over LT, only because he was gone the minute he got past the second level, he still had awesome power, good enough hands and could absolutely carry a team. He was one of the all time great talents, too bad injuries and stupidity cost him thousands of yards or he probably goes down as the all time leader.

You’d have a lot more to spend if you actually got impact players in the draft… You HOPE they get a third. Secondarily, you could have extended him for 13-14M a year and gotten long term gain on all the time you spent developing him, plus a major over investment in picks to get him. Or you could have traded him, free’d up cap space and went after a more impactful player.

Yeah, brilliant strategy isn’t it? Don’t extend a guy and let him become the most desirable guy at his position in FA, get nothing for him.. Now you are down the path of paying a guy 2x his market value and if he finally “finds” it, you are in the same position again. If you could have unloaded Oliver for literally anything, you would have 11M to work with for a far better player, but the league knows he’s a nobody so you can’t even get a future garbage pick for him. So homer it up all you want, Beane has mismanaged every 1st round pick outside of Allen and it’s a REAL good thing he got that right or there would be even less space to work with. This is why the 5th year option is fools gold.

Maybe Bates at C, but big Rick got paid so he’s not going anywhere (it would seem) and Morse is clearly the best C on the team by a long stretch, even if he’s basically average these days.

Well, if you are asking if I think they are wrong to play him over other players and not dump his inflated contract vs value. Yes, I question them.

Oliver has had 4 years and never once has he had even a single game where he’s had Aaron Donald like impact on a game. He’s a marginal starter, just admit reality and move on.

It’s a Power Ranking, not a rating of who’s actually the best and with that in mind, the list is pretty damn good. I find it hard to fault until the back end of it, but their justifications are pretty solid.

There’s a reason for “prototypical” size in players. I didn’t understand that pick at the time and unfortunately, the Bills were not smarter than everyone else.

Or even a third.