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They just got rid of Carr, why bring in a worse version of the same guy for more money? If there is one thing Brady ought to bring, it’s QB evaluation. I see no way they swing for Darnold.

Bernard should not have made it, 3/4 of a year wonder and that was really only in the eyes of Bills fans. Spencer Brown, that one is definitely arguable.

Allen could get lower and push, he went high and had nobody pushing him this time, I’m curious why the tush push suddenly became a standard sneak, it was a hell of a time to change the biggest reason it had worked all year. You really think Josh doesn’t work out? You have got to be kidding. What a short or selective memory you have, there have been many published stories about Josh working in the offseason w the guys.

You post says it all, you have one “good” player. Then Singletary wasn’t worth paying 2.5M for, so clearly wasn’t very good, the guy who was supposed to take his place also walk and both were paid less than the 3rd RB Beane brought in as a return specialist. Knox is over paid. Gabe Davis … meh not a bad 4th round pick if we are all being real honest, good #3/4 WR, just not the #1/2 they tried to make him. Doyle can’t get on the field Bernard is ok. So there’s the issue, a bunch of over paid and over drafted for the production you get. If Oliver was a 3rd round pick, that would be pretty good, a solid starter that makes a handful of flash plays a year. Unfortunately, he’s a top 10 pick on a rather rich contract. The RBs represent 4 day 2 picks to get one guy who’s better than replacement level. Knox is overpaid in your own words, Davis isn’t here, Doyle is a nobody and Bernard is “better than we had”, when the last guy got cut mid season by the Seahawks, that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement. Where are the guys that are actually difference makers? They don’t really exist outside of Allen and Cook. In the same time frame, KC has rebuilt their team 2x and is about to win 3 SBs in a row, or at very least 2 of the last 3 with a chance to win this one. Philly has also built through the draft and is back to the SB, so the whole “drafting too late in the draft” excuse just doesn’t work.

That argument works when guys that clearly don’t deserve it are making it, but being that it’s a joke of a system and basically anyone with a heartbeat makes it, it’s pretty telling when not one of your picks has made it.

I think it’s a fair question to ask if it’s worth it or not. My take is the biggest issue is the contract structure so you can fit him AND others in the plan for now and the next 3-4 years. Giving up a shot at a young difference maker with the 1st round pick it hard, BUT if we are honest, outside of JA, the only impact player Beane has managed out of a 1st round pick was Diggs. Those picks were all better than this year so it’s certainly no guarantee he will make anything of that pick. At least Crosby is a known commodity.

I want him, but if you think he’s going to be had for a 1st and 4th you are dreaming. 1st, 2nd and 5th this year and a conditional 2nd next year will get you to the table.

Oh I forgot we evaluate on race these days. That’s got to be the lamest excuse I’ve heard. I suppose to counter, a white safety was better. 🙄

I’m so sick of this excuse, the Chiefs draft after everyone every year and have built one of the better D’s in the league. It’s not where you draft, it’s drafting the right guys when you make the pick. For example, I wanted Dejean this year, the Eagles got a top flight corner and we got two guys that struggled to get on the field in the first 2 picks.

Bernard, Williams, Milano (giving a pass for injury), Miller and quite honestly, the entire line… and ya know, let’s just do this, Benford and Rapp played well. Hamlin played to his ability and YET they ran him out there as a starter, that’s nonsense.

In fairness, when virtually EVERYONE under performs, there is reason to question the coaching.

Availability is more important than ability with Higgins, regardless of cap space, he should be a hard pass.

Beasley, Diggs and Knox is really enough to win with. You had 3 guys who, when featured, could be 1000 yard guys. Most teams don’t have any more than that. As of right now, there’s not enough talent or at least not enough talent being used. Kincaid, Coleman and Samuel all need to step up big time. I think Brady is a major problem in that, but I guess we will see how things play out.

Let’s be fair, it’s only every time.

Oh we should all fear the Josh Allen picks, Kincaid was straight dominant too. Maybe the GM should do his own damn job and draft the best talent, not appease the QB. This is how you end up in the mess the Packers/Jets did.

Beane did it because Josh Allen carried his sorry ass. Check the top 100 players list, all pro voting, etc. The Bills have a joke roster in respect to impact players. They have a collection of decent to good players, most getting over paid for their production level, and a QB that literally drags them to wins. On the 5th year option, the number is closer to 50% and still the majority of those are done to guys they intend on extending and need leverage on, as in a Jamar Chase, or it’s just stupid. If you let a guy play on the 5th year option, you don’t know wtf you are doing as a team. That’s an indication the guy wasn’t worth extending, so you essentially took the bait. Now you have a player that is either 1) not worth what you are paying or 2) Is going to price themselves WAY higher for the extension you should have signed them to earlier if the have a big year. It’s pure fools gold.

Well said. There’s a huge lack of difference makers and that’s what you are supposed to come up with in the 1st round.

Sometimes you need to admit the mistake and take your medicine. Now I’ll go back on my soap box and say the 5th year option is for SUCKERS. If a guy isn’t good enough to earn a real extension already, you shouldn’t be giving them a guaranteed year at nearly franchise tag price, it’s stupid. You hand away your negotiating leverage, you can always franchise if the guy suddenly figures it out, but how often does that really happen? You almost always end up paying more for no reason and it’s GUARANTEED a year ahead of seeing the performance. Only idiots use the 5th year option and boy does Beane love to back himself into a corner with it. Yep, but boy trading up was off the table because they needed to recoup the 3rd round pick they lost filling a mid season hole.. so now you know what’s coming.. WR is the second highest paid position on the field, the Bills are scraping the bottom of the barrel and are too stupid to draft an elite one in the first round, year after year, so here we are. Please tell me how great the Wizard of Beane has made the team.

But they have speed

Yeah, but to sign Groot will be a big contract for a decent player, it’s the way you go to cap jail. He’s going to demand top 10-15 money and he’s just not impactful, you can’t resign those guys and win.

Absolutely. This year they were hell bent on trading back to get their 3rd round pick back because they just couldn’t live without another rotational DT. Instead of trading up to get a legit #1 WR on a team that was in OBVIOUS NEED and is the second highest paid position in the NFL, so a 1st round pick is extremely valuable to lock one in on a low dollar contract. Like you said, no problem wasting picks to go up for a CB or TE, but then going blind to the idea because they wanted a 3rd round pick back. I’m really not at all impressed with Beane. He rolled the dice once and hit on Allen. He hasn’t hit on anything in the first round since. He really hasn’t gotten a lot out of the first 3 rounds if we are honest. In 7 years he’s got a QB and a RB who are top end talent, everyone else ranges from pretty good to utter bust. The fact the team got so far this year is amazing.

They don’t rotate nearly as much since Von told him he couldn’t get a rhythm that way. That said, a rotation means everyone is equal, there’s nobody that’s clearly better than another so just keep mediocre fresh. It’s basically what we have seen since McD has been here. A bunch of guys who make no impact, just rotating in and out. It’s a terrible system and it’s an indication of no difference making talent. For the first few seasons it seemingly ALWAYS had the “backups” in on crucial downs because it was their turn, at least that has lessened. I know people think the scheme is why the line isn’t producing, but look at Miller, pre-injury, he was getting sacks. Last year Floyd comes in and gets sacks. Now look at the guys that have left… the DTs seem to go back to having an impact, at least Settle and Ford have and the DTs here are doing nothing, so from that standpoint I see an argument. On the outside it looks like a complete lack of talent is the issue because guys can come in and produce in the system and if they aren’t producing, they go elsewhere and don’t produce. I think the scheme neuters the DTs bc they have to eat blockers, trying to hide Safties masquerading as LBs. Edge guys? I think the ones we’ve seen/are currently on the roster just suck.

Possibly, THE best.

They continue to hit in draft picks, Carter is destroying OLs and Dejean (who SHOULD have been the Bills pick) has been locking people down, they continue to replace high performers with high performers on the cheap, through the draft, the way it’s intended.

oook, so he was better in every way, but definitely not better, got it.