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Or you could look at the facts and recognize the ratings have been achieved against inferior talent. Then also recognize the level of competition has been raised for this coming year and the overall talent of this team has decreased after free agency. Enjoy the beach life, I’m sure the sand feels nice over your head. I’ll be patiently waiting.

So excited to keep and sign more rotational DL, can’t have enough money wasted there. WRs are a dime a dozen as we all know, Bean just wizarding again.

Can you please provide a picture of yourself to the folks at Webster Dictionary? They have decided to add it to the definition of “Homer”. They plan to add in context of being unable to accept obvious facts, when presented in a clear and easy to understand format.

Let’s get a break down for you week by week: 1) W vs Rams - Rams finished 5-12 2) W vs Titans - 7 Win team 3) L vs Phins 4) W vs Ravens - let up 20 pts, did a good job vs Jackson. Credible win. 5) W vs Pitt - rookie QB 6) W vs Chiefs - best game of the year. 7) W vs Packers - hot garbage team, especially at that point in year 3-5 at that point. 8: L- Jets to Zach Wilson no less 9) L - Vikes - gave up 33 10) W - Browns - back up QB 11) W - Lions - 4-7 team at the time. 12) W- Pats- .500 team and Mac Jones.. so basically a back up 13) W - Jets - back up QB 14) W - Dolphins gave up 29 to Tuna 15) W vs Bears 3-12 team 16) Cancelled - getting slapped early by Cinci 17) W - Pats 8-9 team 18) W - Dolphins 3rd string QB gave up 31. 19) L - dismantled by Bengals. So there ya go, you have an entire season laid out for you, this team beat 3 credible teams the whole year and got a lot of points hung in them in those games as well. For 2021, 9 of the 12 Wins came against teams with a rookie QB or a back up QB. This vaunted D is a myth. 2022 had 4 rookies or back-ups for wins. There is a reason this D gets exposed every year in the playoffs, they have had super soft competition, year in and year out. 8 wins this year vs sub .500 teams.. So yeah, this D has thrived on Rookies, back-ups and trash. They have all of 3 Quality wins all of 2023 and really only 2 for 2021 if you count the first playoff game.

You still keep trying to site a whopping 2 games as an indication of your bias vs the body of evidence. You can believe whatever you want. They had damn well better not being paying all this money to Von and using multiple 1st and second round picks as edge setters. I’m all for interior pressure, but if they misuse the personnel that way, everyone should be fired. If that’s the plan, no more games, obviously the coaches and the GM can’t get in the same page and it’s just pissing in the wind. Especially after adding Floyd.

I’m not loving the fact they extended Oliver to clear space to add more money to the DL, but it is what it is. I will wait to see the terms of this deal before judging it too harshly. If he comes in and plays up to what he did with the Rams, this is a nice piece, I would have preferred Ingram, but whatever. If/once everyone is healthy, I could see this allowing them to kick Groot inside with Floyd and Miller on the ends in passing situations. Groot was an absolute monster from the inside at Miami, might be a really good move for him to kick in more often. I suspect this means you will see Von start the year on the PUP list and they will look to trade somebody off the line. Also might be an indication they asked Boogie to kick into a 3tech role so he can play more to his strengths. Hopefully, with McD taking over the D, there are some changes and players start getting used to strengths instead of paying guys big money to rotate in and out while not using their best attributes. There has been a disconnect between the players Beane has brought in and their usage, especially on D, I’m hopeful that walked out the door with Frazier. That said, McD should not have allowed it in the first place if that was really the issue. This year will tell us a lot. From the outside looking in, I would hope they plan to use AJE in a pass rush LB type of role, kind of what they did w Klein when Edmunds was out. Maybe try some over load plays where you stick Von and Groot to one side and have Shaq and AJE (as LB) to the other, Jones in the “middle” and let them get after the QB. Boogie could be a nice interior rusher/back up DE. Oliver had better become Kwan Short in his new contract/role and be disruptive from the interior on a regular basis. If McD is truly going to get aggressive, he has some toys to play with, I’d like to see it. As others have said, we seem to have an excess of players on the Edge, so I’m guessing either plans have changed for a couple or there are going to be some moves made. I can’t see them doing much until after/during pre-season, you don’t want to put yourself back in a thin situation with pass rushers for late round picks, it’s just not worth it. I would guess, Shaq, Boogie and AJE are fighting for their roster spots. Though as I said earlier, there may be plans to shift some guys. Boogie does have some versatility as could AJE if they look at a stand up rusher. It will make for an interesting summer.

Watching Harty, you see somebody who is not only a great athlete, with awesome speed, but he also looks to have a feel for the game. I hope that’s the case and he stays healthy, if so, he could be a major contributor. McKenzie, obviously is a great athlete, by all accounts works hard, is a great locker room guy, but really lacks that natural feel for the game. The reason he never got paid big money, nor got the role he thought he should, was he was nothing like Cole Beasley. Beas was/is an average athlete (by NFL standards), who understands the game and can make mid-stride adjustments. McKenzie could do what he was told, but he’s not a guy you can trust to make a read and go to the right spot. My biggest fear is we have the same problem with Gabe Davis. Looking at it now, I believe the thing we didn’t really appreciate about Daboll was his understanding of players limitations and he played away from their weaknesses. At some points I wondered why he didn’t put people in different roles, once he left and Dorsey gave those players freedom (appeared to anyway), I saw why the play calls were what they were w Dabs. Hopefully, Dorsey is able to adjust and make it all come together a bit better this year. I don’t want to go too far off track, but I think a lot of JA’s problems in the red zone w turnovers were option routes that the receivers didn’t go where they were supposed to (Davis and McKenzie especially). That seems further validated by the additions of Vets late in the year to try to get things on track. I don’t think Dorsey quite knew how to handle it all when things went south, hopefully he learned and adapts. Time will tell.

I expect a major step backwards, this team has feasted on garbage teams and back up/rookie QBs. This D is not special and not that talented where it matters. Middle of the pack ranking and again, Josh will have to win games himself. BUT, it’s not McBeans fault Oliver didn’t show up after an extension, Avon looks old and the rest of the line is average on their best day.

I’m all in if he takes 3m a year for 4 years and 6M guaranteed.

And no Allen, no regular season wins to brag on. Yes, their team is better and constructed to win in today’s NFL, meanwhile the Bills have a questionable offensive line, 1WR who’s ever been anything and a bunch of nobody’s around Allen, but oh boy do our rotational DL guys / ST aces get paid.

There’s a legit QB here now, I’d like to see a better team and coach around him so we can actually win a game that matters.

The team around Maholmes is superior to the one around Allen and Maholmes is Winning SBs, the Bills aren’t getting to them.. what’s that say?

EJ Manuel still wants a shot, might want to get on the horn.

Just checking.. how have they been doing in big games?

No money for anything, but let’s throw 68M at a ROTATIONAL DT.. yep, just killing it.

Unfortunately

I honestly can’t wait for the end of the McBean era.

A dangerous game to be playing w a guy who will hang you out to dry with no remorse. I hope he sucks this year and decides to retire.

Yes, I meant they were paying for the dead cap hit, my wording sucked. I’m almost ALMOST, sure, they don’t have any salary tied to 2024, so they can’t spread it because it’s automatically voided at the beginning of the year. So without OBJ agreeing to a deal or essentially a payoff if he’s not staying, I think they take the full dead cap hit in 2024.

This only works if you can eat it all the year after. If they let him walk after this year without an extension they pay that full 11 and change in dead money next year

If so, forget signing D-Hop, he won’t put us over the top w wrong Allen throwing him the ball.

Shorter did nothing in college, to think he’s going to make some massive leap this year and actually see the field on O is wishful thinking at best. I like the physical potential, but he better bring it on ST’s to even sniff the roster. Harty has proven nothing yet, I don’t have huge expectations, I’m hopeful he’s going to be something.

Sounds like Hop is going to have to pick, actually play for a contender or go for the money. I don’t know which he will choose, but this is starting to get a Julio Jones kind of feel to it.. can the guy still run enough to be worth the money? Or is he really down to a possession type now? I don’t know. I don’t know what “getting paid” is going to look like for him at this point. Beckham, though coming off injury has always been explosive and his work outs looked like he still has it. D-Hop has been explosive enough, but it may be trailing off, with the lack of teams out there that have money, need a “#1 WR” and are real contenders, it’s going to be virtually impossible for him to get everything he wants. The scary part to me, if he doesn’t go for money, does he land in KC? That would suck.

I used to think you had to build an offense that could handle Buffalo Winters, then I got mesmerized by the high flying offense, then December came and we needed an offense that could handle Buffalo Winters… then we got beat a couple times, most notably in Cinci because we couldn’t handle winter conditions.. so I’m back to it, the scoring early in the year is cute, but build a team that can punish the other team and go over their heads at will and you have something special. Imagine Josh Allen on the Titans from the last few years.. can you imagine having to defend not only Henry, but knowing Allen will torch you if you stack the box?

If a team wants him and can take on the current deal, it would be stupid to let it get to competition, anything is better than nothing for AZ. As insane as it sounds, I think the only team ( that we assume is in on him) that could swing it is Philly. Otherwise it’s teams throwing a lot of bonus and bogus years at him.