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I disagree with you on EJ. He was a liability at FSU and he couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat in the middle of the Atlantic. He was an athlete who played QB and it carried him as far as it could. He had no business being a 1st round pick and honestly, if he was ANY good, he could have done something after leaving Buffalo, but he just bombed out. He never was NFL caliber. That’s no slight, he made it to high level D-1, but that’s it.

Pssh, don’t be callin Keon “slow”.

Still arguable. I wouldn’t take him.

It will be interesting to watch how it plays out, Davis is a better prospect out of college as an actual RB and pass catcher, I still have no idea why Beane felt Cook was worth a 2nd, but I digress. Assuming Davis keeps the ball off the ground, I expect him to overtake the lead role by mid-season. Cook isn’t a physical runner and it appears that will be a premium.

Funny story, I almost crashed my car over the Maybin pick. I got stuck having to drive during the draft, so I was listening to the draft on the radio. I couldn’t believe Orakpo had fallen to us, it was a no brainer, and then they didn’t have a brain. I threw my hands up in disbelief and hit my wheel on the way up, almost threw my car into a concrete barrier. That one along with Whitner was just inexcusable with Ngata on the board. All of that was horrible, but EJ? Oh man, I just gave up. I used to follow FSU almost exclusively and was PUMPED he was leaving. Sure enough the Bills take him… I could have lived with it in the 4th round, where most had him ranked, but to trade down and then take him 🤮. I would have taken GeNO and been ok-ish with it. At least he was good in college. Awful, just awful. Only bonus for me was Winston came in and won the Championship with the same FSU team EJ let down for years, so I got some sort of win.

I have never been more disappointed than the EJ pick, including Maybin and wrong Josh. That guy held FSU back, it was clear he wasn’t NFL material. At least with Allen, it was a boom or bust potential, I said when we picked him, “most likely a wasted pick, but if he can ever put it together he can be great”. Here we stand, lucky AF.

It does…. But we traded the picks that became Mahomes and Jefferson.. so yeah..

This could be, BUT I would prefer to keep an extra WR if the race is tight. Coleman is unproven, Hollins at BEST has been a 4th option, Samuel has injury concerns as does everyone fighting for #5/6. All it takes is a bad week and our WR room looks like the LB room last year. As of this moment, I would like to see: Samuel Shakir Coleman Hollins Hamler Shavers/Claypool Hamler has massive upside IF healthy, Shavers sounds like he’s getting it done and Mapletron is as physically gifted as they come so let that play out as it will. Hollins being a virtual lock is scary to me, I’m not sure he deserves that, but it seems like he’s going to get it bc of the love affair w ST players.

That would be huge. He’s flashed a lot when he’s been on the field, I see why they picked him and I don’t really know why we haven’t seen much of him. It sucks that the Chiefs jumped us and got an All-Pro while Elam has done nothing, but if he could at least make it hard to keep him off the field, it would be a huge improvement. I always thought Benford would become our FS and Elam the starting corner, Benford has been too good for that move, which is great. If Elam could push to start or outright earn the spot, it would be MASSIVE.

There’s reason to wonder if he will be able to be the same player. Let’s let him get some time back to football before “worrying”.

I was surprised Mitchell wasn’t the pick instead of Coleman. He must have REALLY rubbed teams the wrong way in the pre-draft process. Talent wise, he should have gone much earlier. Coleman appears to be a guy you want in your team and he has some talent, I’m hoping for a Michael Thomas type of thing from him, without the Michael Thomas experience on the personal side lol.

I like Spencer, but I wouldn’t sign him to big money, he’s just too big of an injury risk.

He doesn’t have the moves to play outside. He’s a good starter at 3T so he would be paid well. People here just need to quit acting like he’s some sort of generational talent, that he is not.

You keep making the point, Oliver is easily neutralized unless you have somebody taking attention off him. He’s a compliment player, he’s NOT THE guy. Jones is THE guy, you can’t stop him, Donald was THE guy, triple him, doesn’t matter. Oliver is like a situational pass rusher, only useful when conditions are perfect. He’s basically the equivalent of Manny Lawson when he was here. Flashed when everyone was occupied, but the minute teams aren’t worried about a real player beside him, poof, he’s gone. Your whole argument basically says, Jones, a guy they picked up for a little of nothing, is the guy teams can’t stop one on one. Oliver has to have that to show up.

Oh I feel horrible for him, he’s already made 3x more money in college than the average person will make in their lifetime. Now he gets another 40M, even if that’s cut in half and he never earns another dime in any other fashion he would be able to take $400k a year for the next 50 years WITHOUT considering interest earnings. The poor, poor guys. And this is why it pays to play on a team where the state has no income tax. Look at what Josh Jacobs did, deferring his signing bonus and all but the minimum salary until the team completed their move to Las Vegas. He’s forever my hero, F California.

my point exactly, he needs to be a secondary player. Jones is a stud and wrecks games on his own. Oliver gets taken out of entire games when he doesn’t have somebody else eating blockers for him.

Adams is doable.. ASSUMING, he will play on his current deal. Aiyuk wants top dollar on a new deal and that’s just not in the cards. Adams SHOULD come cheaper as he is older too, but who knows. I’d flip the Raiders a second and change for him, no problem.

Yep! This is 100% spot on. This is also why I can’t help but wonder what in the world makes people think Oliver is a great player. Jones will flash more in a single game than Ed does all year and Jones does it when it matters. Oliver is a good player, Jones is a game changer.

Facts right there.

Buffalo isn’t the most beautiful place in the world, but there’s no reason to rip on it, especially when your Daddy lives there.

Have to accept his worst and ignore a dominant game to keep the numbers close, it’s almost like reality doesn’t matter anymore.

What he wants vs the vet min his market value is, will be the issue.

So often it’s like Beane has selected players for the scheme he wants, not what the team runs.

2 stats that NOBODY cares about, unless they are grasping at straws to justify trading the only legitimate/proven WR the team had. Shakir has been a nobody to this point to anyone outside of Buffalo. He may step up big, I hope he does, but he’s done less than Davis had when he was asked to be a #2 across from an All-Pro and he struggled. Shakir needs to be ready to take the defense’s best without much of a proven threat to take attention. His likelihood of success in jumping up to a 1 from a 3 is realistically pretty low. I’m hopeful, but he’s probably not going to be anything super crazy this year and if he is, it WILL shock the rest of the world.

From a real fan of the man and from his play, Larry Fitzgerald comes to mind. The pure football fan in me brings up others; I hate him when he’s playing against us, but TJ Watt is fun to watch, he’s a single man wrecking crew. Also used to love watch Polomolu for the same reason, just electric players. If we could take the off field things away, Tyreek, Ray Lewis, Lawrence Taylor, all come to mind. Just stand outs amongst the absolute best, it’s hard to be that much better than the best of the world, but man they did it. The best part of it all, right now, we have the single most entertaining player in the league as our very own QB. Allen is a monster and even if he has t quite been able to get the team over the hump just yet, it’s a heck of a ride!