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It is and this is why. You have to pay a guy 14M and his market value is lower than that. If he blows up, you lose, if he sucks, you lose, if he gets hurt you lose. You can’t control the cap hit through structure, you can’t negotiate to a market price without an extension. It handcuffs you. If you want the guy, sign an extension now when his value is low, if you don’t want him, move on. He was far out produced by a guy they paid a one year under 10M deal last year and those guys are available every year. 5th year is fools gold and if you can’t tell the difference.. well you’re the fool.

Give me Moulds and Evans to go w JA and it gets weird. Mooreman Mario Pat and/or Kyle Williams Stevie Fred Ex I’m goos w any of them.

Nothing left to say in this thread. Those teams have far superior weapons, especially SF and Det. Agree and disagree. Those teams are built with talent that takes pressure off the QB. You still should build a team to do that for Allen. At this point, they have provided him less than Mahomes to work with and a Defense we know will fold like origami when it matters. JA has to win the game before the last drives bc the team will lose 85% of the time if he doesn’t. This is why the record has looked great when the blow teams out and mediocre when the teams they play don’t suck on O.

Seems to me they are building a WR room full of nobodies and hoping JA can elevate them to good enough to win. This is a dangerous path, they didn’t have enough talent with Diggs and Davis, let them go and didn’t replace them with equals or better. As it stands they head to the season with an interesting player in Samuel, who can be a 1k guy, if healthy, but also not really an outside guy/ legit #1, does offer some options with running etc. From there there is nothing proven on the roster. That’s not great. I’m surprised they played this game again after gambling on Davis to step up and having that blow up. It’s really on Shakir, Coleman and a bunch of JAGs to make up a lot of yards and routes. There’s a lot of “potential” on the roster, but that means they haven’t done anything yet. I think/hope Shakir really develops to the “#1” WR, Samuel to be a Deebo lite, and a lot of looks will be going to the TEs, so it may work. The problem will be proving they have somebody to take the top off. If D’s can sit on the shorter routes, there will be too much traffic close to the line, which jams up the run and pass game. The only reason I would have liked to seen Worthy in Buffalo was the respect he would force D’s to give. I will go on record as saying, I don’t think Worthy is going to be special, but he does cause mismatches and that’s his value . I am hoping Coleman just does his thing and becomes an Anquon Boldin type of guy here and that will make him super valuable.

I bet you are the joy of the AA meetings.

I mean, I’m not sure where you derived that I was “worried” about Miami, JA will still make them his B word. However, the Bills lost a lot of talent and didn’t replace much of it, so I’m sure their fans think they are the class of the East too.

Back to hearing how Lamar has no weapons.. Real talk, Miami should be really good this year.

you are delusional, but I’ll give him credit, he got the right guy. That said, it WAS fortunate bc there were talks of him going #1 and he wound up being the third QB taken. Since that time he’s spent us into a hole where we couldn’t pursue any WR talent this year because he missed on all the key positions in the draft for years, the gave away his only successful use of a draft pick on a WR, when he dumped Diggs last minute. So the team goes into the season far worse off than it was at WR last year and they had one of the weakest WR rooms in the league to start 2023. The DL got worse, we have a guy who’s never started at C, taking that roll. Back ups at both S positions and basically we pray Josh Allen can bail him out again.

Josh Allen is the franchise, without him, this roster is bottom 10 in talent. Take away Dawkins and Milano, it’s worse.

Is he? Or is he just really fortunate to have hit on Allen? Overall, this roster is not that talented and most of the top talent came from prior to him taking over, so we are in cap he’ll, not as talented as KC and can’t buy our way out of it.. doesn’t sound all that great if you take the rose colored glasses off.

Shorter and Shakir better ball out this year or I genuinely think it’s time to look at a McBean replacement.

We have 3 #3s as a #1. 3/3=1, just have to do the math.

Really don’t understand this one. I thought maybe it was a draft to trade agreement and maybe it still is, like Adams and next years 1st to the Falcons, for him, but otherwise the pick seems dumb.

They paid pretty well, getting a 3rd back this year is big

Kelce was as big of a deal as Diggs last year, they STILL won. It’s Mahomes and Chris Jones they really rely on.

The guy definitely has the measurables, good production last year. He’s the body type I want them to go get, I have only watched 1 game of him and some highlights, but he strikes me as a guy that could be really good too.

Ok, but WHY are they not signing a second contract, is it bc they cost too much? Obviously, there are busts, but example, I know AJ Brown is on that list of didn’t re-sign.

After KC has PROVEN, you don’t have to have Elite WRs, the trend is insane. Look how many games Adams has helped the Raiders win after that massive deal. Look where the fins went with Hill, etc. ONE guy, maybe 15 opportunities a game cannot be taking 10-15% of the cap if you have a QB taking 20%, the way it’s headed, you have a QB at 50+, pair of WRs at 50+, TE at 20+. LT/RT at 50+ the rest of the line at 30+ and we don’t even have a full offense on the field yet. The math don’t math. Going this crazy over WRs is the wrong move.

He’s the guy I’m locked on. I fear I’m not the only one. He looks like a guy who’s humble enough to hang around a long time and not be a problem, while being a top 10 WR. That’s a rare RARE combo. I kinda feel like this class is going to be one where the top guys might not be all world and there are some guys that really excel drafted later. I don’t have the time to break down all the guys and try to pick my sleepers, but if you don’t land Odunze, which will take a massive trade up, I don’t think the value presents to take one of the tier 3 guys at 28. I know a lot of people don’t want to hear it, but barring a big trade up, or someone taking a really unexpected fall (possible, if you look at the year we traded for Diggs, my #1 WR, Lamb fell to 17), then I won’t be shocked if we go back in the draft. Also wouldn’t be shocked if they caught a stud on D that fell down the board a bit and they went that direction. I know the board will melt down, but an impact CB, S or DL would make this team more complete and better suited to compete for a title. The DL we have is not good enough unless Von is fully back and even if so, he’s probably in his last year here. Then Groot has be signed to more than he’s producing or be replaced, so DE/Edge, whatever you call it, also needs talent added. Big thing to take away, if they don’t start getting impact from the early round guys, this team will always be a bridesmaid and Allen will always be looked at as the QB that “can’t win it all”, which is complete bull####, but that’s the story until he does. Then there’s Julio Jones.. that worked out and ATL should have a title with him were it not for their own collapse.

Oh, you’re CERTAIN of it? Allen went from being on of the most raw QB prospects in years to one of the best in the league, you don’t think Mahomes could/would have been fine here? Diggs improved his numbers here, Jefferson magically wouldn’t have transitioned to the NFL, why because Kirk Cousins “made him”? This is one of the dumbest arguments out there.

I hate that you may be right. Here’s to hoping Beane has a shocker in store for us and goes up to get one of the WR prospects. Remember the year we got Diggs, CeeDee fell to 17, which would have been well within striking distance AND Jefferson fell to the Bills. Making the Bills the team that has traded away both Mahomes and Jefferson, favoring “proven” talent.

Nah, he’s not fast.

Oh how funny, remember Woody Johnson telling the world he was worth so much and they wouldn’t move on for nothing.. here we are.

Looks like they would be great in the XFL, which interestingly enough, is where they could compete.

Always start with a Go Bills and see where it goes. If a conversation starts with a woman, you know there’s a solid chance with her, she’s already used to being optimistic and then disappointed 13 seconds later.