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He's been horrible, but nobody here wants to admit it. People were hating on Tannehill when he was in Miami and thus far, Josh has been a slightly worse version of a young Tannehill. Can he improve? I sure hope so. Right now, everywhere outside of Buffalo, people are questioning how the Bills are winning despite horrible QB play. Here apparently, as long as you get the W, regardless of the 4 of those wins were struggles against the worst teams in the NFL, Josh Allen is God. The sad part is, he's the best QB the Bills have had since Flutie and people think they have something. It's blatantly obvious to the rest of the world, he's headed towards the Bust side of that "boom or bust" lable he had coming into the NFL. That draft class of QBs is not looking good at all. Mayfield looks like a middle of the road type who's attitude may kill him, Darnold has exactly one game to hang his hat on, Allen has perfected coming back after handing games away, Rosen is probably done already and Jackson is pretty good in that system, but not a real thrower at all, but again hype because the team is winning. 2 years from now, people will look back at this draft and question what everyone was so excited about. The year before you had 2 HOF potential QBs fall to 10 and 13 or whereever Watson was taken and nobody from this class is close after going 1,3,7,10

Get ready, you spoke against the "Chosen One". You are now a know nothing troll, who doesn't know football and obviously can't see the greatness in front of you. 5-1 with 4 come from behind wins against 4 of the worst teams in the NFL are proof of the greatness. Letting facts like 12 turnovers get in the way and pointing out, were it not for his deficiencies, there wouldn't have been a need for comebacks, is not going to be allowed here.

I'd drop a first for Williams, he could be the difference between a lot of wins and losses. Allen has been under pressure a lot of the edge and frankly, thats when the stupid button gets pushed. I think Williams could stop a lot of that. You get 5 years from a first rounder, if they work out and then its big money time. We have seen plenty that don't work out, I'd take 4-5 years of a proven stud at this point. I'd also try to get OBJ if he really is on the table, you are going to have to pay for him, but again a first and probably a 4th would be worth it for pretty much everything I said above except now you have an elite weapon. The fact Clowney isnt wearing a Bills uniform right now tells me all of this is not realistic as that was the trade that should have been made. This team could be improved a lot, picking which of the guys who sits inactive on Sundays to cut isn't that big of a thing if you are getting real talent.

Good post, almost surely going to get flamed for allowing facts to get in the way of a good story, but I agree with you. Duke did what a number 3 or 4 guy should do for you, catch the ball first and foremost and be a nice option when 1 and 2 are covered up. He didn't have a big day, but sadly it was bigger than what Zay had managed on any sort of consistent basis. I was big on Zay when he was drafted, but it was pretty clear he wasn't going to make it here. I hope Duke keeps it going, he's a good story and it would be awesome if he could manage a Stevie Johnson type of career here.

Both the Pats and Bills have had super soft schedules, take a chill pill.

At some point in the next 8 years, Im sure you are right.

I'd be ok with Stafford, my fear is you are looking at Tannehill, which looks to be a better comparison right now.

I'd take Brown back, good solid player. I'd love to have Gilmore with Tre..

Ok, so check the records of the teams in question here, THEN reference back to the fact the Bills average less than all of them in reality and then you can try to twist it to your belief that you only count the games against teams picking in the top 10 of next years draft because of their defence being 24th or worst in scoring. I'm sorry, your argument doesn't hold any water at all. You still have a team who has averaged 18 ppg in the real world. Your argument for "Good" teams is laughable at best. Saints - Teddy Bridgewater is doing more, Colts - Jacoby Brissett isn't exactly a great QB, Vikings - are you even trying?, Jags - the Mustache!, Falcons are good this year? C'mon now.

I see the numbers, but you have to be honest about them. 22ppg vs the 24th, 25th and 27th defense in scoring. There have been signs of life, but this is not a very good offense right now. Most of the issues stem from turnovers, there should have been a lot more points in all of those games, but you don't get "should have been" points. We all love it when Brady throws a pick in the endzone, but on the same token, can't claim we scored on a fumble on the 10, ect.. Execution has to happen, not excuses.

To be fair, there's not 3 top 10 teams there in scoring and that's what you are talking about. You have the 24th, 25th and 27th teams in scoring allowed. The Pats and Titans are good, but this team has not exactly scored a lot.

Absolutely not.

Is it hard to see? If Josh gets any kind of season ending injury, Eli is superior to Barkley in every way, you want to know what it costs to try to save a season where you should be playoff bound and potentially more. You don't want to pay him for less than that, so its just kicking the tires in case something happens.

I honestly don't see the point, Drake is a minor upgrade, if any at all. Gordon is a top 10RB, so at least theres a question of it being worth it.

Yet if you actually look, there are guys running open, Josh is not seeing them or affraid to throw to them. Flat out, the biggest problem right now is NOBODY is scared of our giant armed QB throwing deep. He has not showed the ability to put a deep ball even in catchable range the entire year. He's certainly improved in the short to mid range balls, but his deep accuracy is worse than a Hail Mary percentage and that's absolutely no hyperbole. Right now the game plan is pretty simple, stop the run, cover short, the line won't protect Allen long enough to get his feet set to rip a long ball and even when it has, he's been God awful, so let them have it, play under. Thats a huge simplification of it, but pretty much the recipe. If Josh starts hitting some long shots, the offense becomes really tough to defend, right now, you have to execute, but it can be defended. Look at what the Colts did to KC when they took away the long shots (injuries helped them, no doubt), but without that element, its hard to score a lot.

Who says Drake can be had to a division rival for a low pick and who on earth thinks he's in Gordon's stratosphere?

For a half season rental, you wouldn't trade Yeldon, that's nuts.? Basically you know you are getting a 3rd back for him, assuming you don't sign a ton of guys, which is where the big issue with this comes to play. IF, you don't sign a lot of players, Gordon will get you a 3rd back. If you go slap happy and sign a lot of FA, the 3rd rounder is gone. Risk v Reward here. I'd love to have him, but hes also not worth what he thinks he is.

I'd say its more like Mariota = Tannehill and I'd say there were more highs with Tannehill. Mariota is similar to Tyrod in that he is a mediocre starter that will move to a bridge/bench role sooner than later.

Again with no facts behind your opinions that you hold as self evident truths. There are goid discussions and blind homers who argue every fact based post they dont like, I'm not into the " grandpa knows best" attitude carried by a lot of the group.

Oh, we hide behind, "I have been on this site for longer than you, I know more." Cool strategy. If you get credit for "knowledge" like yours, I don't need it.

Oh my goodness a whole 2 extra TDs, one being from less than a half a yard away, who else on the planet could possibly do that?! I'm sorry, but if you are so blinded by the fact the TEAM won, despite having to overcome multiple dumb, careless turnovers and multiple missed opportunities by a mediocre QB who happens to be a great athlete, there is no use in pointing out the truth. I'd bet you think Lamar Jackson sucks too, right? If you watch as an unbaised observer, Jackson has been a FAR better QB and I think he is a running back who happens to throw. Allen has been trash this season outside of maybe 6 drives and here we see the BuffaloBills Beer goggles on, telling us all that 2x more turnovers to TDs is just a stat. No, its a fact and you are a fool. Not to mention thise stats come against 4 teams with a combined 6 wins and the PATS have 4 of them. You are embarrassing yourself.

Insightful. If I told you another team thought they had their franchise QB because he's thrown for 900 yards, 3 TD, 6 INT, 5 Fumbles and a passer rating of 69, how hard would you be laughing at them? 900 yards, 3 TD, 6 INT, 5 Fumbles and a passer rating of 69... If you call this an improvement, that's fine, but it also shows you why they have had to come back. He hasn't played well.

Thing is, he hasn't had a good game all year. Yeah he's had flashes and led comebacks that he created the need for with sloppy ball handling, but overall, he's not much better than last year and thats not good.

The Pats did exactly what I said they would do, fill the box, make it hard to run (numbers wise) and take the short middle away.. instantly, Allen is in his worst spot and he has to do what he doesn't like or he starts making stupid decisions. He chose the latter.

He should be playing at JuJu level of play and he cant hold JuJus jock without dropping it. Hes no better than 20 various street FA that could take his place and not miss a beat. Andre Roberts has never been looked at as a good WR and HE out did Zay for the season in one game.. c'mon man. Its time, bring in Duke or trade for a real WR. Whatever, just get it over.