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My bad Example, all out blitz on 3rd down, zero pressure on 4th at the same distance, dafuq?

So that excuses throwing the ball straight to the defender 3 times and hurling a ball to the middle of the field with one eligible receiver and 3 defensive players around him on the way to the ground? Sorry, no. His decision making sucked today and I’m not excusing it. The game plan put the game in his hands and he couldn’t make the right decisions. He had a great last drive, he left with the lead, but he ultimately was the reason the game was close enough to be in that position. I believe Allen is the future and the present, but he was not great today. The great thing about America is you are entitled to your opinion and you have the right to be wrong. Allen had a bad day. He threw the ball right into the arms of the D 3 times today, 2 times they caught it. He also threw an absolutely horrible ball to the middle of the field, with 1 eligible receiver and 3 defenders on his way to the ground, Singletary bailed him out, but another bad play. He was not on, he did manage to have a great final drive. Fact is, had he not made so many mistakes, there would not have been a need for a come back, not the opportunity for Murray to make the throw he did.

Books punt was awful as well

The untimely and ultimately, bad throws/decisions gave Arizona the momentum and lead. Yes he made a comeback, and one helluva throw to Diggs, but, that should have been gravy, not go ahead. Josh had a bad game today, made some really stupid throws and could easily have had 4 picks had Peterson come up with the ball he usually does on the first one in his arms and the absolute bone head throw away to the middle of the field Singletary bailed him out on. This was the “ bad Josh” we can’t have. He was great on the last drive and the D should not have given up that TD, but they should not have been in that position.

You are right, looks like he had a shot to break it up, but Hop won..

Damn, Tre is higher, helluva play by Hop

He is the first guy to truly play like Favre, just reckless abandon out there. He’s cleaned it up more this year, but he’s still a wild card, I love it, when it works lol.

Thanks, I try to be objective.

Reggie White was the star of his era, Bruce, great in his own right, was not the best.

Maholmes or Wilson and Possibly Burrow are the only ones I would be willing to swap Allen for. His age plays a really large part in that vs the other guys that are “better” right now. For the next 2 years, Rodgers is the better player, but he’s in the twilight years, Breese, Brady on the downward slide, not sure they are really much better anymore when you factor in Josh’s legs. Josh has too high of a ceiling to consider any safer picks at this point. Last season, I might have taken some others, after this season, no thanks.

I’ve got him as a tier 2 guy. I think you could make an argument to shuffle any of them around a little, but this is how I have them right now, based on current ability/production. Tier 1: Maholmes Wilson Rodgers Tier 2: Breese Brady Roethlisberger Allen Watson Burrow (yes, I have him here after half a year, sue me) Dak (Healthy) Jackson (results, not prototypes, the guy is the MVP for a reason) Tier 2.5 Murray Ryan Stafford Tannehill Carr Goff Tier 3: Bridgewater Cousins Jimmy G Herbert Wentz Fitz Rivers The rest are place holders or so often injured (Darnold) they don’t really matter and Tua doesn’t have enough work in for me to try to place him.

I wonder if he doesn’t become the first guy to take a cap percentage deal. Maybe the deal is 15% of the cap total as base salary, with an additional signing bonus of 50M for 5 years. That makes him approximately 40M average, BUT insulates him against the cap going crazy and he gets jack ***** and the Bills against the cap falling and having to cut everyone around him.

I don’t really care. He’s fine, but honestly wouldn’t even know if he was on the roster or not.

Let me simplify it, Josh is still a question as to what guy is showing up. Those guys are ALWAYS expected to bring it. At no point in any game is the opponent not fearful they will snap out of it and beat them. When Josh goes into a funk, he’s not much of a threat. Yes, everyone has bad games and the team around you will obviously have a big impact on your opportunity to win. Yes, last year the Bills were in a lot of game despite Allen having a bad game, that’s because they had one of the best defenses in the league, he had a chance to win a lot of those games and unfortunately didn’t turn it on in time in most of them. This year he has raised his game. There’s no longer a question if he’s a top 15 guy, he is. On his best day he’s a top 3 guy, on his bad day he’s below average. He’s had many more games towards the good end of that, but still put up a good number of stinkers too. So until he can consistently bring it, week in and week out and it becomes an exception that he has an average day, he is not in the league of the Maholmes, Brady etc.

Literally listed the guys out in the post.

In the context of the game, it was a good move. He didn’t need to take a hit and risk injury. If you were behind or in the playoffs, maybe it’s a different story. At this point in the year, get what you can without getting killed on virtually every play. Wrs are some of the smallest guys on the field, have to have their health to be effective and really need to limit their damage. I would encourage all the guys on our team to take the same approach when there is little chance to win. A guy like Knox, Davis, Kroft, Moss, who could lower the shoulder and potentially score in a one on one situation, go for it.

1) Drops 2) YAC 3) YPC Looking at metrics, he’s not producing outstanding results. Keep in mind Robert Foster would have been a top 5 WR for the last 6 games of 2018.

I would say on the whole yes, his floor is a top 15 guy for the season. On a game to game basis, he can really suck at times, and that’s where that floor has to be raised. His ceiling is non existent, there’s nothing stopping him from being the best ever, he’s got prototypical size, work ethic, personality, athleticism and one of the best arms to ever play in the NFL and what is proving to be good accuracy, which I didn’t know if we would ever be able to say. He just has to cut the games where he looks like the Miami version of Tannehill for a day. This season, there hasn’t been much of that, but he looked shell shocked in TN, KC he was off and got no help, and even the Jets game was not very good. The Pats game wasn’t great either, but he looked average against a team that has notoriously skull ***** the Bills, so hopefully he comes out swinging next game and declares their reign over. We saw a bad day from Russel Wilson and they put up 33 points. It was a bad day for Russ, no doubt, but it wasn’t a 30 point loss like we saw when TN knocked Josh off his game. That’s where the improvement has to come. The truly great ones, you expect dominance every game and fear them picking you apart. If you happen to slow them down enough to win, good job. There’s still a question of which Josh shows up today, that is the part that has to change. You want to know, that even on a bad day, your guy will keep you in the game and give the team a great chance to win. Brady, Rodgers, Breese, Wilson, Maholmes, Big Ben, if you get to the fourth quarter and are down 14 or less, you still believe you are firmly in it, even on a bad day. Josh is absolutely a guy that can be on that level, but has not quite put his bad day floor that high yet.

The next time that guy is right about anything, call me.

He’s changed my mind this year. I really didn’t think he could take the next step after watching all the terrible decisions last year. He’s had those intangibles all along and the team obviously loved him, but to see the leap he took this year where it’s all coming together for him, just awesome. I do think we are looking at a Big Ben type of guy here, first two years, nothing great (Ben was way more conservative), and as they get turned loose they just keep growing. Also, I don’t think Allen will ever be considered the best in the game, like Ben, but always a guy you would be happy to have and can definitely be a difference maker. He’s a franchise guy, no doubt. He’s going to rack up a lot of wins, throw for a lot of yards and leave you saying “wow” a lot, but he’s playing in the Maholmes era, probably never going to get the respect until he wins a title, by beating Maholmes to get there.

Man look at everything we could have had, what a shame.

I could see them dropping 3 of 4 just as easily as going 4-0 for the next 4. LA is in every friggin game, they will start winning some. The Broncos are streaky, never count them out, and the Bengals are actually pretty legit w Burrow.

How bou dah!

I need to know exactly what he’s costing me and he should be willing to take a little less for full guarantee. Everyone wins.

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