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I agree OROY is unlikely, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think he COULD displace Brown on the outside because of his size, sending Brown across the field more, deep slants etc, could make him a great roll, that’s where a lot of his damage was done last year anyway. Beasley works underneath almost exclusively. So it’s not really the same roll. I mean we are WAY ahead of ourselves here, but he should see a lot of work in the RZ because of the size and if a power run game is a part of things, it would also make sense to have the much bigger guy out there on the outside. If he can take over that roll, Brown could be an absolute nightmare for other teams, a guy that fast who you really have to put your 3rd CB on with Diggs commanding the best and usually the outside guy isn’t going to run inside with Brown. For what he did as a number 1 with little help last year, good Lord it could get real for him this season if JA can make it happen. I agree, but it’s tough to judge these days it seems. I think he should be in, not even really a question, but there never should have been a question with T.O. Either.

If and it’s a huge if, he manages to get on the field early, he could be the leader in catches this year, he should be the easiest target most of the time, he’ll be matched with a 3rd or 4th DB.

His game reminds me a lot of Anquan Boldin, who was a favorite of mine coming out of FSU, wasn’t flashy enough for the first round, but went on to be a borderline HOF player. What a steal it would be to get anything like that in the 4th. Also, if he can force his way on the field, he instantly becomes a big deal for this team, his size and relative speed are great, but line him up with Brown to take the top off, Diggs taking the primary DB, Beasley under and he can get to the 15 yard range, it could make this O very hard to handle if JA can take the next step this year and really make people fear the long ball.

Yeah, Moulds was thought to be a bust by many, and it all really clicked late for him.

Seems like a good low risk/solid reward move for the brown eyes. I was surprised he fell as far as he did, looks like a Kelsey type, not a bad guy to have.

It is nice to think the running game might actually be solid this year. I was optimistic going into last year with 2 HOF potential rbs and DS, but things change quickly. I agree, Moss should/could be an every down back, his skill set is really solid, the reason he was drafted “low” is his 40 time, but he’s plenty fast, it shows on tape. I see him as a Travis Henry type. Valid point. My question becomes, is it smart to spend 3rd rounders on RBs when guys like Yeldon, etc are available for a song in FA and you know what you are getting? I’d like to see a little more upside to the picks, though I think Moss was a steal, DS seems more of a role player. I agree in principle here, but when you are drafting where the Bills have been, the 3rd round represents about the 80th player off the board. That still is a place you should find starters and you take guys with that bigger boom/bust potential IF you can afford to. The lack of competence in the draft is why the Bills have generally sucked for a long time. Honestly, though Beane appears to be on a better track, there’s a lot to see how it plays out. So far, none of his picks have been home runs. Allen may blossom or he may Turbiski, we don’t know, he has not come out dominating by any stretch. Edmonds has been ok, but certainly not living up to the LT comparisons we heard at draft day. Oliver was not a big factor last year and so on. The last really impressive pick came from Whaley, that’s Tre, but that’s also at the sacrifice of Watson/Maholmes. None of Beane’s lower picks have been tremendous, time will tell if anybody develops into more than potential.

You generally expect a starter, and considering its one of the top 100 prospects in a draft, yes, it IS a lot of capital.

Called it when he was drafted, bust in the making annnnd.. here we are. He’s not big nor physical enough to actually play LB in the NFL and doesn’t have cover skills to be a safety. He’s an athlete, that’s about it.

That’s a lot of capital to spend on a back after having just done so in the draft prior. If they thought DS could be the man they could have signed a number of vets to back him up.

I may be the only one here, but if the way Singletary was used last year is any indication and the fact they spent ANOTHER 3rd round pick on a RB, I don’t think the team is sold on DS at all. He’s exciting, but the lack of breakaway speed is a killer. Personally, I think Moss COULD be a top 5-10 back in the league. He’s basically a prototypical size/speed for the position, runs down hill, has some hands and is pretty elusive. Aside from height, he’s a like a shiftier version of Derrick Henry. No I am absolutely not saying he will be DH, but the skill sets are very similar and if he puts in the work and the scheme lines up, I have no problem envisioning that kind of success. DS could make you miss in a phone booth, but he’s still awfully short and will almost always be the slowest skill position guy on the field, that combination rarely translates to big success in the NFL. He could definitely make a place for himself on 3rd downs etc, but I’m not sure he’s ever going to strike fear into the hearts of anyone. Moss just might, especially if the line comes together with Ford and Williams doing some road grading, it might be awfully hard to stop that guy. The exciting part in all of it, the line has a lot of potential to be not only good, but pretty deep this year, Allen should have some time and the RBs should have some big ole holes out there. Every one of the linemen is pretty well built for the run, with Morse being more of a true pass protector, but still no slouch. The running game should be a huge factor this year. Hopefully, they take a page out of the early Patriots dynasty play book, hammer the run when it’s there and torch you with the pass when it’s not. This O can be awesome if Allen can do his part, there are 2 #1 WRs with speed, a crafty slot guy and I expect Gabe Davis to be a real factor as well, plus we can hope to see some more growth at the TE position, there should be a lot of room in the middle of the field if the run game pulls the Lbs up and the speed at WR takes the safeties deeper. This could be a lot of fun.

Good news that he should be able to carry on, the guy has had zero luck in his career with injuries. He is talented and by all accounts a good guy, hope it works out for him.

This is where I do feel he was looking for prototypes, not necessarily the best football players. To be fair, I thought Watkins could be Julio Jones, turns out Mack should have been the pick.

I agree, he’s kind of the Phil Jackson of NFL GMs, you can look awfully good with some of the Best talent EVER dropped in your lap.

Actually, I don’t think that’s all that crazy. Aside from QB, Whaley built a strong team as evidence by the year McDermott took over, they were a playoff team, with a mediocre QB. The really regrettable part is not letting Whaley actually take his QB that draft, I feel it would have been Watson, but Maholmes was obviously there too. By playing it “safe” the Bills blew it. Imagine the possibilities of that team even with the rookie version of Watson. He was obsessed with stature, but he had built a good team, regardless of what people want to think. The contracts were not always good, but why Overdorf isn’t given more blame for that is my real question. What a lot of people don’t know, DW was THE reason they signed Mario Williams and yes, I understand he went on to struggle with Rex turning him into a friggin LB, but he was a really good signing when he was being used correctly.

That’s kind of my point. If I just show you the raw stats, and we attribute the wins and losses to more than a QB, which seems pretty reasonable to do, Fitz has had a really good career. In fairness, Jim played in an era that wasn’t as pass happy, so the stats are skewed some and Jim played in Buffalo where we know at least 3-4 games a season are extremely difficult to pass in, where as Fitz hasn’t had those circumstances his whole career. On the other side, Fitz hasn’t had HOF talent all around him like Jim did, either. By no stretch is Fitz a comparable player to Jim Kelly, but I do think if Fitz had been a QB in that era, he would be looked upon as a better QB than he has been in these times and probably would have been considered close to a “franchise QB”. His brains and crazy plays, coupled with a road grading running game and a lower scoring league, he could absolutely look the part. I would argue he was/is better than Phil Simms, and many other guys that were considered greats because of the team around them. He would have fit well in that era. It would have been really interesting to see him on one of the great teams like the 49ers, with that west coast system, he plays a lot like Young did, or the Cowboys with Emmitt, Moose, Ervin and that great line, even Buffalo with Reed, Lofton, Thurman, etc. He’s never had a whole team to work with. If you look at the “great” QBs, they all have HOF talent around them to thrive. While it’s absolutely true they play a part in making the other guys HOF players, there’s still a huge difference between Josh Reed and Andre Reed. He did become the first passer with 400 yards in (3?) straight games when he had good talent and a favorable system around him with the Bucs, imagine if that team had any balance and Winston wasn’t there as the guy they took #1 overall. That could have been pretty epic. Watch for a shell of Tom Brady to have a lot of big games there too.

I would absolutely keep both kickers on the roster. I would use them the way you are saying, BUT more importantly, I want 2 in case of Covid. If they test positive, they are out, just think about going into a game and on Friday (or later) you find out your kicker is out. With the struggle to find reliable kicking across the league last year WITHOUT Covid, I wouldn’t give up my kickers or risk them to practice squad. I do understand there are some practice squad exemptions this year, but for the situation the Bills are looking at, unless Haush looks done or Bass is completely lights out (impossible to know with no preseason), I’d use them to their strengths and go with it.

Honestly, he really has. He’s the definition of a grinder, he’s been all over the league, actually holds some real NFL records, never was elite physically, but has managed to play at very high levels. Of course he has had the lows of not being physically gifted as the greats, but he’s still arguably one of the top 20 QBs in the league and has always been right there. He’s just too good to be a back up (for long) and not quite good enough that you want him to be the long term solution. He happens to be the guy that didn’t take long term deals (outside of Buffalo) and has moved around a lot and has done amazingly well in a multitude of systems. If you look back at all the younger guys who were high draft picks, he unseated and thrived in their place, it’s crazy. He will always be one of my favorite players, just a genuinely good guy, one heck of a sense of humor, gets through with hard work, brains, and sheer determination. How many player, QBs especially can you say have played for 8 teams, over 14 years and still is relevant? It’s unreal. Think of how many guys have come and gone in the NFL and here’s a 7th round pick who accumulated: 32k passing yards 210 touchdowns 60+% completion percentage 81.6 QB rating It’s not a HOF career, but if you get that out of a number 1 overall pick, you got it “right”.

Really surprised Vevdik got no where. You would think a guy with his versatility would be in demand, but it appears he is far from it. Logical conclusion, he’s just refined enough for either position.

Reality, the bills don’t have any pass rushers of his caliber. Hughes was close in his prime and not that he’s bad, but he’s not what he was. I’d give up next years first for him right now, the draft is going to be a ***** show anyway. Take the sure thing.

Absolutely perfect.

No worries, I’m generally just typing what’s in my head, mistakes get made all the time. Go Bills!

Certainly not shocking, really have not been able to rely on BoJo to get it done. Vevdik is a cool prospect, but does he actually have “it” to punt, I don’t know.

Ok, I missed that, so that’s even more reason he has to show this year. Nobody wants a to pay what it’s going to cost to keep him. IF he isn’t stepping up. Once the QB salaries get more screwed up with Maholmes, Watson, Dak etc adding GIGANTIC numbers into the top 10 and knocking the last of the 20M guys out, that number is going to be 30 M

Cost of the average of the top 10 salaries at the position for the year prior will be his salary. Guaranteed for injury immediately, in full as of first day of the league year.

No, this is the make or break because you have to choose that 5th year option or not before the start of next season. That 5th year option will be guaranteeing him $30+M for year 5. So do it or don’t do it, but this is the year you have to see big steps in his overall game so you can choose to commit to him or look to move on after year 4.