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I do think they need more pressure, but the LBs and CBs being out really hurt. Thankfully this isn’t exactly a stacked team to cover. Next week becomes more interesting. I think Tre will have Kupp, but Woods could put up 13 catches and 200 yards against Wallace. That’s not going to be fun if they can’t get pressure and have some LB help in the middle.

Another 2 yards longer in that ball and there’s no chance for the defender, good read, solid throw, would like to see that next step if hitting him in stride, 2 yards into the end zone and nobody having a chance but Brown. Big steps nonetheless!

Was that ball for him or Brown? Who was in the wrong place? Either way, helluva catch.

He looks good so far, still throws some really bad balls, but improvement is there. The competition hasn’t been all that strong, so let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves, but there’s no arguing he threw for 300 and 400 yards against 2 teams that he faced 2x each last year and couldn’t put up those numbers. Also Diggs has brought up the level of the WRs as a whole. I’m going to state it on record. I was wrong. His presence is worth the cost. The guys are fighting for the balls, and generally look more competitive and he’s the only change.

Good for him, Buffalo was the death of many WR careers, glad he got a real shot elsewhere and made something of it.

If anybody questions Allen’s attitude, I think that’s just crazy. He’s a baller and goes all out. Questioning his effectiveness is a whole different animal. He’s a guy you want to be around and follow, hopefully his game evolves to one where you say, “we can’t lose with that guy on our team”. he’s been so up and down, one can’t say that yet, but there’s a chance.

I don’t know where he would be getting reps at the moment, but generally you would hope he was good enough to let them release Murphy, save that cap and see some production from a 2nd rounder. Then again, you can’t overlook the fact he really didn’t have a huge impact at Iowa until late in his career and he was really just out there clubbing baby seals with raw power, which in the NFL is not enough.

i have been saying this since he hit the field, built for OLB and being used as MLB, it’s mismanagement at its finest.

To quote the great Bill Parcells, “Potential means you haven’t done ***** yet”. That’s where all these guys are. Potential to be great, still haven’t done it. They are good players, outside of Buffalo, they aren’t considered special.

Julio Jones D’Andre Hopkins Michael Thomas Keenan Allen Julian Edelman Devante Adams Robert Woods Jarvis Landry Amari Cooper Mike Evans Larry Fitzgerald Antonio Brown Tyreke Hill (in 4 years) O’Dell Beckham Emanuel Sanders Brandon Cooks yeah, I’m done with this game, point proven. They aren’t planning around anybody on this D outside of Tre and the Safties. Nobody is good enough to be a concern. Milano created a bigger hole when he went down, than when Edmunds was out, so take it for whatever you want, but the facts remain. Milano is average and he’s harder to replace than Edmunds. That’s not a good sign.

Your take may be correct, I don’t see the brilliance yet. Marv did pretty well with a mess, but holding a mess together is not the goal, the goal is to win a championship. I’d much rather the team absolutely melt down and start over with eyes in the prize vs being stuck in the purgatory we have witnessed for 20 years in Buffalo.

I don’t necessarily think Diggs is at worst top 12, if we are being honest, he’s only broken 1000 yards 2 times in 5 years and barely so at that. He’s good, but John Brown has produced basically the same numbers. He’s never been the number one target on his own team. He’s going to walk in here as part of a team that also has another guy teams have to account for, so hopefully his success continues, but I don’t feel he’s a clear cut top WR. No, it’s absolutely the truth. He’s still a liability in the run game and hasn’t become a force in anything else. He’s a big, fast guy, as of right now, that’s it. He’s not elite, anybody who thinks he is because they watch the rest of the Bills LBs need to take a look at real LBs, the biggest weakness in this team is the LB core and it’s not close. Milano is more valuable and harder to replace than Edmunds right now. Edmunds has POTENTIAL to be great, thus far, he’s not.

Yes, he had the benefit of not paying the QB, and took advantage of it, but their D still sucked by and large, it’s going to be worse in the near future.

He’s still just potential, not an impact player. If he grows, fine, but he’s replaceable at this point.

I think they are doing a solid job, but the way people talk, it’s like they walk on water and I don’t agree with that. I also am of the very unpopular train of thought, if McDermott doesn’t grow as a coach and understand situational football better, specifically on offense, he will be another Marvin Lewis, just good enough it’s hard to fire and never good enough to win the big games. This year is a true pivotal season for the team, they’ll ride or die with Allen, but there’s a lot more to watch.

Injuries are definitely a concern, but he was the best player on their team as a rookie.

The Chiefs are headed down Andy Reid road, he’s done this before and lucky for them they got a championship before his brilliant stupidity hits. He’s going to keep trying to outscore you with a great QBs and lots of speed, defense be damned.

I actually agree Diggs is a “Solid” number 1, even though he really has never been a true 1 on his own team. I think he’s closer to Robert Woods than D’Andre Hopkins who was traded for less I might add. I’m just not happy with what they gave up to get him. As for comparisons to the division, I’m not sure why you would want to compare the successes of your team to 2 of the worst franchises in the NFL and one of the most notoriously mediocre drafting ( yet still unbelievably successful) teams as your benchmarks. The Jets basically are in the same place as the Bills, Darnold steps up, they’re set, The Phins took Fitzpatrick who they flipped for a 1st round pick, not too bad and Wilkins who we shall see on. The Pats were adding pieces for a Championship run and I don’t think they really belong in this conversation because their team was already built. Meanwhile, we take a QB the year after we should have ( stupid owners and ***** coach to blame there), then took Edmunds after trading up, the pick before Derwin James. That’s a miss. Nothing Beane could do for the year before, but forcing picks hasn’t exactly been getting resounding results in my opinion. So far he’s landed guys with potential and holes in their game, if they develop, great, if not he has wasted 1st round picks.

I would call “big” a true stand out player, yes that probably means in the top 10 for QB, RB, etc and maybe top 25 for CB, WR etc where there are a greater depth of players. If you pick a QB in the top 10 and give up a lot to get up there to do so, he better be a true franchise guy. Same thing for a MLB in the top 20, at that position he better be a top 5 to justify that draft capital. In reality there have been very few DTs that have ever justified a top 15 pick either in terms of impact on the team’s success, so to me EO has better show the F up this year. Right now, this team has exactly 1 player who is indisputably a top player at their position and Beane had nothing to do with it. He’s used 4 first round picks, 2 are starters, but certainly not for every team and one is Diggs, who I put as a top 20 WR, but anybody calling him more than that yet, is a dreamer. Look at his production, it’s good, but no where near elite. I still don’t like that trade, it might be more indicative of the fact they HAVE to evaluate Allen and this guy is proven, so I can take it from that perspective, but it was way too much for a mid tier #1 with the draft class of WRs last year.

Yeah, all of that. The chatter around here makes it sound like he’s been crushing everything and the reality is he has not hit on anyone big. It’s not that Allen can’t be great, but he isn’t right now. It’s not that Edmunds isn’t good, but nobody in their right mind would give up what they did to draft him, knowing his current production. Ford sucked last year, so that pick wasn’t exactly great “vision” for 2019. This draft class is full of potential again, but there hasn’t been a preseason game yet, so let’s not get too excited about practice.

I actually think that’s best case. I personally would not have picked him. I feel the better picks would have been Dobbins (raw talent), OT, CB, WR, LB before a relatively limited DE. He got by on strength against boys, but this is a mans league, he’s going to have to be quicker and add some moves to be much of anything in the NFL. I’m not saying he can’t/won’t be more, but I saw a less twitchy Shaq Lawson. To me, that’s not enough to spend a 2nd round pick on. Then again, I don’t think Beane has been all that and a bag of chips in the draft, he has hit on exactly 0 picks thus far. Everyone is still obsessed with the potential he’s picked, but Allen, Edmunds, Oliver are all just that so far, none are anywhere near the top tier of their positions and all cost a lot. The last great pick was DW’s with Tre and that’s debatable in comparison with Maholmes or Watson sitting in your lap. This year will basically define Beane as both Edmunds and Allen have to show up big time and E.O. Needs to be more than a rotation guy as well. I get the distinct feeling Moss may be the big winner for him to be really honest.

Shaq has played in the NFL and was considered a far better prospect, let’s just see Epenesa on the field first.

Should have moved Foster last year, actually had some value at that point.

Highly doubt he clears waivers, as said earlier, that’s a reasonable price for a guy that good, especially as a 1 year gamble. It takes a team needing a hammer style back, but there’s always goal line. I’d take him, but can’t see him making it down to us in reality.

Never understood the new contract, Beane makes some really strange moves.