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You wouldn’t find a GM to trade Maholmes for Allen, Tre and 2 first round picks, so I guess the answer is pretty clear. The best player in the league, already w a SB win and MVP award at 24 years old. It’s not important, but no, having Tre and Allen is not as good as having Maholmes, let alone had you taken him you wouldn’t have had to give up all those picks and Cordy Glenn to get to Allen.

Way more concerned with picking on Edmunds who looked completely lost out there last week. Goff ate him alive. His lack of discipline to his zone is going to cost this team until he learns to do his job or he gets replaced.

What part of overall value of a trade are you missing? The first round pick and the money are the key components to all of this. You want to get on Diggs nuts over 3 more catches than a rookie WR, but don’t want to acknowledge he is being paid 2x as much as is under contract for far less time? Interesting. Not surprised with the Homer attitude. VALUE is more than 1 thing. If you want to look at the draft value chart, the Bills gave up about 930 draft value points to get Diggs, to go to 16 to take Lamb they needed 1000. If that fourth rounder had been this years pick, you were already there, but you could have given up a 3rd round pick and that would have been it to go up. So to recap, the Bills essentially gave up the 18th pick for Diggs. So to sit in your ignorant high horse and act like it’s a clear cut great trade vs making virtually the same trade to go up for a guy you have under contract for half the money and double the time, is pretty silly. Why didn’t the Bills go for Ngakue? No VALUE in trading a second round pick AND paying 20M a year. The value of Diggs is a veteran presence, proven commodity at a reasonable contract vs his expected production, but in comparison to production, your whole argument is trash.

I don’t think teams necessarily missed anything with Allen, the question wasn’t, “can this guy be great?” It was, “ can he overcome everything to be great?”. With more experience comes a better judgement on the talent and a “safer pick, to me, that’s why he “fell”.

Good for him, he’s really stepped it up this year.

Lamb went at 17, so let’s talk about moving 5 spots, the reality of the situation. If you want to cherry pick and act like somebody could not actually see the draft in front of them and know who was on the board. So let’s say we have to move to 16, now look at the cost and the value to move to 10 is way higher than to move to 14, so just read your own chart. Even less to go to 16. Now look at the contract implications, Diggs is paid 3x what the rookies are making and his contract runs out before them. So by the time they get to “real money” he’s going to be looking for top money. So take your extra 4 catches and shove them in terms of value. Again, Diggs is doing great. He’s a stud, no denying it, love having him. To say it was far better than moving to 16 to take Lamb, not an easy argument in value.

right, in their first 3 games in the NFL after a half assed training camp with no preseason. If you are missing that, you might need to wear a sign. Diggs has been great, not saying he hasn’t, but those two are crushing it, and they aren’t even done with “preseason” in a regular year. Yeah a realist! Oh no!

In all fairness, Lamb and Jeudy are killing it and could have been had for pretty much the same picks. Both are on rookie deals and locked up for 5 years, so try not to be too pompous.

I’m sorry, I’m calling bull#### on this. He’s invisible and not getting pressures, hit or sacks, so take your metrics and show me results.

Jackson does have limitations, but he’s still a helluva weapon. He’s a lot like Vick was, not the best passer, but such a PITA to contain. He’s dynamic and as long as he’s healthy, he’s a top 10 QB, not on passing, but in production. Murray is a helluva passer, totally different players, not going further into it other than his height can make it hard to see the field from the pocket. Allen, through 3 games, looks like he is starting to be a real good QB. He’s playing an awful lot like Big Ben at similar points in their career. He’s still making some realllllllllly bad decisions in terms of ball security and sometimes the situational awareness isn’t the best, but overall, he looks like a force to be reckoned with. If he puts a whole season together like this, you have a legitimate star/MVP candidate. So far you have 3 games where he looks like a much improved/complete QB. Trashing others to prop him up is silly. He should either be good enough to generate his own hype or not.

So far, steal. He looks really good to be honest, I’m very optimistic.

Yeah, Inthink we all remember last year when we would have given him away. Great play makes things a lot easier. Allen has stepped up, Diggs was a huge add and the line is arguably better as well, so his schemes are easier to make happen. When he wasn’t getting great play, he refused to adjust. I’m not super sold on him.

It’s all a cycle, remember the Bills went small to stop the pass with Jaron, got ran over, so next they went big and got passed all over. Now the teams have been going to hybrid Safties as LBs again and the heavy run game returns. The key will be have a team that can handle both. The old formula of great corners, versatile LBs that don’t get eaten up in the run, and a good DL will win. You still have to be able to stop the run so you don’t get crushed, but you can’t be forced to sell out for it, or you get the ball thrown over your head. The teams that went small, will get run on, the idea is to score more in this day in age. Ball control may work, but that’s not the current trend. It might be the “new” way as teams have built to stop the pass, so now you can run on them, and keep the ball out of the hands of the high flying offenses. Look what NE did to LV. The Raiders were looking great and got ran over and held to nothing.

Glad he’s finding a job.

Hopefully, this was a one week issue, but the Rams destroyed the D in the second half, the blueprint is there. I fear the Pats will steamroll the Bills again, just in a different form. The good news is the Offense has scored, but Billicheat seems to have another good D this year too. I’m definitely not crowing the Bills as division champs yet.

He did not have a good game yesterday, bit on some run fakes etc. The whole D was garbage yesterday, but McVay can do that to you to an extent. They figured out the LBs wouldn’t hold assignment and just pummeled the Bills, forced CBS to come up and then faked to go behind them. Good scheme, all set up by lack of discipline.

I’m calling bust on draft position, yes. Shouldn’t be drafting a MLB that high (generally speaking) and this one is not working out.

I don’t agree with you on last year, he was pretty bad last year too, but made some flash plays people get enamored with. He’s built to play outside, McD is jamming a square peg in a round hole. The honest truth, he’s a great athlete, not a football player. He has no instincts at all. He’s just about opposite of Josh Allen who is a pure football player that needed refinement, still needs more btw, vs a guy who has all the tools and no football instincts at all. Allen has grown and his physical gifts are a huge bonus, all Edmunds has is athletic ability. He’s a Whaley type pick and I’m going to proclaim it, he’s a bust. You might as well move him outside and see if that will work, but he’s not the guy they planned for.

I’ve been told it’s a “litmus” test for people’s football IQ if you think Edmunds isn’t the better/ more important player vs Milano. Be careful, you are questioning the all mighty McBeane.

He had a great first half, definitely had room for improvement in the second half, good last Drive, still wrought with issues, but he made the win happen. My biggest issue is his selfishness, he obviously took a facemask penalty to be able to throw for 300 yards 😂

Might want to find some LBs too, but having a bunch of 3 techs and no 1 Techs isn’t working.

Davis is quickly asserting himself as the number 2, Brown is a bigger threat as of now, but make no mistake, if he’s out long, his job is on shaky ground as far as targets are concerned.

Oh, where are the people telling me he’s a stud? The guy has belonged outside his WHOLE CAREER, he is playing out of position. He’s not Keukley, he’s not Ray Lewis, he’s a joke as an MLB.

I agree completely, we really need to see Allen against good teams and see if this team is real or not.

The absolute best thing they could hope for is a Rivers/Breese situation and then slap a tag on Sam, deal him for picks. It’s hard to give up on Darnold, but in no way, shape or form do you let a guy as highly regarded as Trevor slip past you for a hope that you have the right guy. Only idiot teams do that, it would be like not drafting Watson or Maholmes because you have Tyrod Taylor showing a lot of promise, there is NO team dumb enough to do that.