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I would love to see him in NO with Payton, I think that would be a real opportunity for him to prove himself (either way).

That’s a garbage move. If an organization intentionally keeps its players out of the light, that’s just disrespectful of their talents and career. It’s probably just to keep from having him make the PB while their “starters” miss haha.

Wow, I really thought he would do well there this year.

I was excited to see Knox this year, he’s got the tools, but the guy is not much of a player out there, really disappointed to see him not take the next step.

Still a 4th round rookie, not sure exactly what you expected from him, but he’s played very well.

He’s made big strides and I sure hope he can eliminate the mental mistakes more. The physical talent is there. Yesterday should have been a blow out, but he kept the Cards in it and it bit us. As good as he was last week, he had just as bad of mental game this week. The comeback drive was great, too bad it was necessary.

Obviously, Josh doesn’t understand his own greatness. He clearly is the the reason the Bills were up at the end. Or he completely understands, he had a bad game that allowed Arizona to hang in. He made some really bad decisions today, mixed in with some great plays, but he’s right, had he not tried to turn the ball over 5 times today, the game would not have been close enough for this to happen.

Exactly. They have been really fortunate lately and are hot, that does not mean they won’t fall flat on their faces at any moment.

Kid looks to be settling in, when he booted that 59 yarder at the end of the half, from the right hash BTW, he didn’t over do it, just stepped up and put it through. That ball was good for another 10 yards. He just has to trust his leg and not force the long ones, he will be fine. I wasn’t sure about him early on, but he’s really got things going.

My bad Example, all out blitz on 3rd down, zero pressure on 4th at the same distance, dafuq?

So that excuses throwing the ball straight to the defender 3 times and hurling a ball to the middle of the field with one eligible receiver and 3 defensive players around him on the way to the ground? Sorry, no. His decision making sucked today and I’m not excusing it. The game plan put the game in his hands and he couldn’t make the right decisions. He had a great last drive, he left with the lead, but he ultimately was the reason the game was close enough to be in that position. I believe Allen is the future and the present, but he was not great today. The great thing about America is you are entitled to your opinion and you have the right to be wrong. Allen had a bad day. He threw the ball right into the arms of the D 3 times today, 2 times they caught it. He also threw an absolutely horrible ball to the middle of the field, with 1 eligible receiver and 3 defenders on his way to the ground, Singletary bailed him out, but another bad play. He was not on, he did manage to have a great final drive. Fact is, had he not made so many mistakes, there would not have been a need for a come back, not the opportunity for Murray to make the throw he did.

Books punt was awful as well

The untimely and ultimately, bad throws/decisions gave Arizona the momentum and lead. Yes he made a comeback, and one helluva throw to Diggs, but, that should have been gravy, not go ahead. Josh had a bad game today, made some really stupid throws and could easily have had 4 picks had Peterson come up with the ball he usually does on the first one in his arms and the absolute bone head throw away to the middle of the field Singletary bailed him out on. This was the “ bad Josh” we can’t have. He was great on the last drive and the D should not have given up that TD, but they should not have been in that position.

You are right, looks like he had a shot to break it up, but Hop won..

Damn, Tre is higher, helluva play by Hop

He is the first guy to truly play like Favre, just reckless abandon out there. He’s cleaned it up more this year, but he’s still a wild card, I love it, when it works lol.

Thanks, I try to be objective.

Reggie White was the star of his era, Bruce, great in his own right, was not the best.

Maholmes or Wilson and Possibly Burrow are the only ones I would be willing to swap Allen for. His age plays a really large part in that vs the other guys that are “better” right now. For the next 2 years, Rodgers is the better player, but he’s in the twilight years, Breese, Brady on the downward slide, not sure they are really much better anymore when you factor in Josh’s legs. Josh has too high of a ceiling to consider any safer picks at this point. Last season, I might have taken some others, after this season, no thanks.

I’ve got him as a tier 2 guy. I think you could make an argument to shuffle any of them around a little, but this is how I have them right now, based on current ability/production. Tier 1: Maholmes Wilson Rodgers Tier 2: Breese Brady Roethlisberger Allen Watson Burrow (yes, I have him here after half a year, sue me) Dak (Healthy) Jackson (results, not prototypes, the guy is the MVP for a reason) Tier 2.5 Murray Ryan Stafford Tannehill Carr Goff Tier 3: Bridgewater Cousins Jimmy G Herbert Wentz Fitz Rivers The rest are place holders or so often injured (Darnold) they don’t really matter and Tua doesn’t have enough work in for me to try to place him.

I wonder if he doesn’t become the first guy to take a cap percentage deal. Maybe the deal is 15% of the cap total as base salary, with an additional signing bonus of 50M for 5 years. That makes him approximately 40M average, BUT insulates him against the cap going crazy and he gets jack ***** and the Bills against the cap falling and having to cut everyone around him.

I don’t really care. He’s fine, but honestly wouldn’t even know if he was on the roster or not.

Let me simplify it, Josh is still a question as to what guy is showing up. Those guys are ALWAYS expected to bring it. At no point in any game is the opponent not fearful they will snap out of it and beat them. When Josh goes into a funk, he’s not much of a threat. Yes, everyone has bad games and the team around you will obviously have a big impact on your opportunity to win. Yes, last year the Bills were in a lot of game despite Allen having a bad game, that’s because they had one of the best defenses in the league, he had a chance to win a lot of those games and unfortunately didn’t turn it on in time in most of them. This year he has raised his game. There’s no longer a question if he’s a top 15 guy, he is. On his best day he’s a top 3 guy, on his bad day he’s below average. He’s had many more games towards the good end of that, but still put up a good number of stinkers too. So until he can consistently bring it, week in and week out and it becomes an exception that he has an average day, he is not in the league of the Maholmes, Brady etc.

Literally listed the guys out in the post.

In the context of the game, it was a good move. He didn’t need to take a hit and risk injury. If you were behind or in the playoffs, maybe it’s a different story. At this point in the year, get what you can without getting killed on virtually every play. Wrs are some of the smallest guys on the field, have to have their health to be effective and really need to limit their damage. I would encourage all the guys on our team to take the same approach when there is little chance to win. A guy like Knox, Davis, Kroft, Moss, who could lower the shoulder and potentially score in a one on one situation, go for it.