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I was envious of the Maholmes deal for KC honestly, yes Allen got the better deal. 10 years to manipulate the money and not have to negotiate a new deal is amazing for the Chefs. Maholmes gave up way too much bargaining time IMO. Josh looks to hit the market again in his prime, good for at least one more similar deal. Maholmes will be 34(?) or so when he is due, meaning he’s getting a shorter deal on the backside or one that will be all for show with outs for the club to get rid of a gray beard. Allen locked in a lifetime of money in his deal AND gets to go back in his prime for more, he signed the better deal for himself. The sweet spot is about 3-4 year deals for the players, they get paid too of the market with a ton of guaranteed money and then get to reset the market again as its climbing, assuming your bet on yourself is a good one.

You are 100% right, but homer’s gonna homer. The Bills F*d up, they trade away the pick who is already on pace to be the greatest QB we have ever seen for a pick that turned into a good CB and a 1st rounder that’s not useful until packaged with others to get up to take a QB nobody was looking at in the year they traded away the pick that took the best QB in the league. It was a bad trade, end of story. To try to glorify it after the next GM saved it through a lot of hustling is absolute bs.

It sure looks like there are going to be some talented guys looking for new jobs. I think a few of them have some trade value. Touch Down Jesus may garner a 1st round pick from Aaron Rodgers, so he could be on the block. I hate to see It, but there’s a log jame at DE, somebody has got to go. Outside looking in, it’s Addison that’s gotta go. You have Hughes who seems untouchable (maybe not?), 3 guys you drafted in the last 2 years in the top 2 rounds, Obada who looks the part.. I’m not seeing room for much more.

I would argue that there is no real reason for the majority of the skill players to be out there until game 3. I certainly wouldn’t risk my best players for meaningless games. I’d roll the starting OL for 2 series or 7-8 minutes of time in game 1 and build them to just over a half for game 3, Diggs and Allen would be in the owners suite until game 3 and I’d sprinkle in Beasley and Sanders just to give MT a fair chance, but not much. The rest of the guys are competing, so let them go out there and show it.

Sounds like they need to send Engram out of town, can’t have those retaliatory type of actions, send him to WNY for a 5th, we’ll rehab him. He’s a classic example of an over drafted player with “Potential”. He is exactly what I was afraid we got when we drafted JA. Most end up more like Jones than reaching their potential. I hope the kid finds it this year and does well. The odds are against him, hope it works out for him.

I’d take McCaffrey off the Panther’s hands. They can have Addison back and a 5th rounder next year 😂

Uh oh, if McKenzie can actually run routes, this just got REAL. I’m really hoping he breaks out this year, there’s going to be less in the pot for Diggs this year, hope he’s good with it. Gotta think Diggs is looking for 100 catches and 1200+ yards, Beasley wants his 1k, Sanders and Toe Dragvis, need their 600, if McKenzie is running sharp routes, whooo boy, could be a 7-800 all purpose yards type of guy too. Allen better be ready to throw up a few 500 yard games this year to keep the boys happy. Only thing I have against the D, was the choice to sign Obada to a one year deal, really didn’t like that decision when they signed him. At least lock him in for a couple years, even as a rotational guy, there’s so much potential, I would have tried to lock him down. Love it.

Those were the best days, you just had to stand on the sideline area and hope for the a foul ball to come your way, much more exciting than baseball. Would a dime not imply hitting a guy in stride? Just saying.

I don’t see the rush, he’s going to get PAID either way. He’s getting a Maholmes-ish deal. I’d take another year on the cheap, but whatever. If they get the deal done, cool, but a lot more extensions after year 3 have been looked at as stupid than successful.

Man, I could not agree more. I will put it out there, I said Hurts was undraftable as a QB. I would not have him on the board and so many “experts” we all up on his junk. I stand by my assessment, the guy is basically Tebow 2.0 without the prayers. He seems likable, hard working, good football player, but your limit is college level. He can’t make the throes required to be an NFL QB on a consistent basis. He may improve, but I don’t see him sticking. I think Roseman is a horrible GM and it’s just starting to prove itself. They caught lightning in a bottle with Foles and still managed to screw up that good fortune by not taking advantage of trading him at the peak value. They got lucky finding a sucker for Wentz, but still are suffering for that contract. I can’t 100% blame them for the contract in the first place, he did take the league by storm, but he looks off the rails after the injuries, they rolled the dice and lost. This is about the equivalent of everything Bills fans endured pre-Doug Whaley. I know I’m not in the majority, but I don’t blame him for the ***** storm here, he put together a good roster, having the old man force his hand screwed him. I have to tell you, I think had he been given the reins on his last draft, this team would be as good or better than they are now. We would have had Maholmes or Watson with that 1st round pick and nobody would be upset with him. Personally, I think it would have been Watson, who is a great QB although appears to be knocking on the career suicide door pretty hard. The roster he built, did make the playoffs with a backup QB as a starter. Beane has done a good job reshaping the team in the image of the new staff, he also got pretty darn lucky to be able to land JA. He gave up a lot to do it and took a HUGE risk, but it paid off. That along with the move for Diggs have been some serious signature moves, hopefully someone else he drafted can step up big because right now, his history isn’t great, but that’s another conversation.

The guy is a real good ST player, I think that alone gives him an edge to be on the roster. If he contributes at Wr it’s cool, but not overly expected.

Would love a good Vet TE on the roster.. just saying.. also saying no way in hell I would give up more than a 5th and take that contract.

If he doesn’t make the roster this year, he might as well give up. He’s too old to be waiting around, he’s had 2 years to grasp the concepts, either you do, or you don’t. It’s football, not rocket surgery. His window is closing fast, he better step on the gas.

About the only way MT is starting next year is if Dabol takes him with him or JA gets hurt and MT does well as his replacement.

Honestly, sounds about right to me. The clear argument against him is time and still a little careless with the ball.

I lean towards Moss, but if DS can get more north/south then he’s got something to offer too. Breida is going to get some pt because, Speed. I’m not completely sold that Antonio Williams isn’t the best back we have ( looked really good with limited opportunity, who knows?) so I’m just rooting for a real competition and let the best man win. Oh and the rugby guy, has he gotten it together, no doubt the best athlete of the group.

If it gets him on the field, I’m sure he will take it.

Wouldn’t doubt it, but in terms of what it SHOULD BE: 1) Maholmes 2)Watson 3)Allen 4)Rodgers 5)Wilson 6)Brady Thats purely on what they can bring to the table in terms of ability, it’s arguable that Allen should be the #2, but Watson has everything and a redonkuless completion percentage, also he seems more assertive in the massage parlor, so he might get the extra points tacked on. In terms of, “pure ability”, which is what Madden ratings SHOULD be, you can’t argue with any of the top 3 young guns.

I’m just hoping the coaches saw enough with Williams’ effort in the game he got in last year to give him a fair shake in camp. I don’t care what anybody says, right now, you have no clear cut starter at RB, everyone should be competing for every spot. Breida and Williams should have every opportunity to start over Moss and DS. I would love to see Moss (re)gain form and claim the starting job and have the same success he had in college, I think he can be a tier 2 type of starter at RB and that would be more than adequate in this O. Until that happens, everyone should be in play.

Offset language, performance bonuses, etc, all a big part of it. He should be asking for no offset, bonus for games played, ProBowl, playoffs etc. I’m sure his agent is holding their feet to the fire and they don’t like it.

I like the comparison, not sure it’s a perfect one, but if Josh peaks in about 3 years while performing at great levels on the way there, I’m good w it.

Seems like his best bet is to have migraines all camp long and then pull a hammy the week before the season, collect his check and screw the pack all at the same time.

I can respect that opinion, but in the eyes of the rest of the world, he’s not in the conversation as the best ever. Stats do play a part in it and while I agree with you, I think he was a better back than Emmitt personally, you can’t validate the “what if’s”, so he will not be given that credit. with respect to Barry Sanders, it’s not uncommon at all for the senior player to hold back a younger player, so as fun if a fact as it may be that Thurman was the starter, it’s arbitrary.

I don’t think it’s even a question, he’s the best player the Bills have ever had. He is one of, if not, the best ever at his position. The only other possible guy you could mention being in that scenario is OJ. Thurman, while great, not one of the absolute best ever. Reed, Kelly, Lofton, all great, but no where near the best ever. Allen has the talent to put himself in that conversation with another decade of success like last year, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Most likely, but it’s a hole to fill and one weak area for this team is STILL LB depth, the coaches must have a much higher opinion of the guys on the roster than I do, because they have flat out ignored it for 2 years straight.