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might be an interesting project as a Dawkins replacement.

I wish that was a joke.

Yet they haven’t brought Cooper back.. hmmm

Please sign this guy, there’s not one safety on the roster that can hold his jock strap. It’s a huge and immediate upgrade. If I have to watch Hamlin get burned one more time I’m gonna hurl.

He’s faster.. in a foot race and the race to crazy and broke.

Thats what I’m saying when I say I don’t think he fits in that conversation. He’s been great and done it a long time. Records fall when you combine elite level play and longevity. Frank Gore is a great example of a fairly average player getting to records through longevity. Gore was good, don’t get me wrong, but if he had a typical length career, nobody is thinking he has a shot at the HOF. That’s just insane. Agreed on all fronts, he was amazing, it’s like he saw things that nobody else did. I liken his style to a great point guard, who also could score. Maybe a Steve Nash or Jason Kidd kind of thing, where yeah they CAN score 40, but they are more happy to drop 18 pts and have 15 assists.

ON PACE to, as in, needs to maintain a pace that is nearly impossible to maintain for the next decade, avoiding injury, etc. That’s the key to everything. Extrapolating stats means nothing. It’s like saying James Cook is the best back in the NFL after 2022 because he averaged 5.7 yards per carry and if he got the 350 carries like a lead back, he would have 2k yards. (BTW Barkley averaged 5.8 YPC last year on 345 carries, that’s INSANE), it doesn’t matter until you do it. I do agree on one account though, I don’t love it when guys who are just “good” break records purely out of longevity. I look at baseball a lot for this one. Eddy Murray is a HoF player bc he has 500 home runs, he never had more than 33 in a season and finished the last 6 years of his 20 years as a guy that really should have been replaced, but those mediocre years let him get enough stats to make him appear like one of the all time great home run hitters. There are countless guys like that out there. I don’t feel like Ovechkin falls in that category. Last year was a down year, but he has rebounded and should finish this year with over 50 goals and a positive +-, and even last year 31 goals isn’t terrible, it’s just not up to his standards where we expect him to have 50+ in a full season.

I like this summary of it best. Ovechkin is one of the greats of the game. Gretzky likely wouldn’t be quite as good today because the level of athletes is just different, but to my eye, he’s still the best to ever do it. Guys are bigger, faster, stronger and more specialized now, but Gretzky is more like Brady, not the greatest athlete, he just saw things differently. He was a true wizard out there, more like Crosby than Ovechkin in that respect. I take absolutely nothing away from Ovi, can’t see that goal record really being broken either, it takes such insane dedication and no doubt luck, to be able to play so long at such a high level and avoid injury all the while. To do what either accomplished is nothing short of amazing. I would say the sack record is NEARLY unbreakable, you would need 14 years of exceptionally high level play to get there. Thats averaging 15 a year. To do that from 22 to 36 with the athletes they play against today, it’s a really tall task. Impossible? Nothing is impossible, but to put it into context, Myles Garrett, the best DE we have seen in a long time took 8 seasons to get half way to Bruce. At that pace, he needs 8 more years of that same pace to catch him. If he can’t maintain pace, he’s going to need to play productively until he’s 40. The odds of any of that happening are just astronomical. Von Miller is the leading active player for sacks at 129.5, you know he’s not adding 70 more. TJ Watt is the next realistic guy at 108, 8 years in to his career. No offense to any of these guys, but I just don’t see any of them getting within 3 or 4 full SEASONS worth of sacks in comparison to Bruce. The level of competition is too high, not only that which they are going against, but from competition for their spots on the roster. It will be interesting to me to see if Mahomes or anybody for that matter can match Brady’s rings. I think if anyone can it will be Mahomes simply because of the start he’s had and the passion he plays the game with. I could see him playing to 40+, if he can add like 2 more rings in the next 4-5 years, he’s got a real shot. Hopefully, JA stops him and wins the next 4 in a row to redeem Buffalo’s 4 losses in a row, but we will see.

He is still one of my all time favorite Bills, he was absolutely awesome when he was here. He is one big man, there is no denying that, in today’s league he probably would be called an EDGE and be primarily used as a DE or OLB in a 34. I could see him being an absolute menace if he was used like Parsons etc. I feel like he was actually quite underrated, his first 6 seasons he had over 100 tackles, injuries got to him, but he was an absolute monster.

Yeah, I doubt that. If trading them Mahomes wasn’t enough to stop them, I’m sure Worthy isn’t bothering them. It’s pretty clear they were dead set on getting their 3rd rounder back for last year at whatever cost. I will never understand how they thought a rotational DT was the key to winning vs getting an impact starter at WR or any other position, but then again, I don’t understand a lot of Beane’s moves or why people regard him as a genius. Yes, he went all out for Allen and hit the grandest of grand slams, but since then, his track record for landing anything more than average talent is uninspiring at best. This team is headed down the path of the Peyton Manning lead Colts. Always good in the regular season, with an absolutely elite QB covering for all the deficiencies of the team around him, but continually beaten by an equally great QB paired with better coaches and a better defense. Hopefully, we get as lucky as Indy and catch at least one SB on a down year for the Chiefs like Indy did.

He’s not getting traded on draft day, it will be worked out well before then IF it’s going to happen.

Kind of reminds me of the year we took EJ. There was a major publication, Sporting News maybe?, that had Ryan Nassib as the projected #1 pick. I was hoping for Geno and when he “fell” to us, I couldn’t believe they trade out, then he was still there and they take EJ…. Only to hear the GM saying “it’s a bad year to need one”. Well then DON’T take one in the first round!

I have to think it’s between Miami and the Pats. As of right now, I haven’t seen the Pats on the field, so I’m going Miami. Proven QB, can score and will rack up wins early in the year. I expect the Pats to start slower and come on more in the back half of the year.

Some of the biggest game wreckers in the league came from the 2nd round and deeper in the draft. This BS about not being able to get guys bc we draft too late has to stop. Every year, guys drafted after the 1st round have major impacts, unfortunately, more often than not, much more impact than the guys the Bills chose before them. In my eyes, the best case scenario would be a team is hoping to land Jackson Dart late in the first and is willing to swap next year’s first rounder to get into the first to get him. Sign me up!

To be fair, there’s been a lot of greats who’s Dad’s played too, off the top of my head, Manning(s), Bosa(s), Surtain, Porter and I’m sure many more. NBA, but Steph Curry, the Ball family, all pretty darn good.

Or think they are taking him. This very well may be the way they try to drive up the cost of the #1 pick. It might just work. If I’m them, I don’t want the pick this year, I want to see if I can pull another first for next year along with a top 5 pick this year. I’ll get a stud position player and set myself up for the future.

The word you are looking for is “Jaded”. JA is a purple zebra unicorn with a golden horn that ***** rainbows. There is nobody like him, we are watching true and amazing greatness. He’s got as big of arm as anyone, is as dangerous running the ball as any QB, is a top 5 passer with throws that literally only he and maybe Maholmes can make mixed into every game, and he’s a level headed, man’s man, that’s as likable as Santa Clause. To watch anyone in college and compare to that guy, especially at this spot in his career, is utterly ridiculous. Josh came into the league as a giant question mark and overcame insane odds to become what he is. You have to look way past what their stats say and look for the potential of special. That’s obviously insanely tough to predict with any degree of accuracy. I look at this year’s class and I’ll tell you now I certainly haven’t done anything more than watch some games, not study of any kind, I see a Maholmes/Allen type of potential in Dart and I can also see him being Will Levis. It’s a crap shoot. I think Sanders could be sneaky like Daniels, he’s got a similar skill set, though Daniels did it at a higher level of competition. Cam Ward, man idk what it is? I just don’t like him, I feel like he’s Geno Smith 2.0, but the early version. I’m probably way off and don’t care, but it’s my .02

I disagree, Deion brought him attention, but the kid has balled out and can do everything you want in a QB. The biggest detractor may be Deion now. If I’m the Giants, I’m taking him and hiring Deion as coach next year. Daboll is gone anyway, might as well sell tickets.

Why waste time if he’s not your guy?

As a FSU fan, I was pumped EJ was leaving bc he was holding them back… then the unthinkable happened and the Bills wasted a 1st rd pick on him. At least FSU got to eats Ws the next year. So if you thought EJ was going to be JA, that’s fine, but don’t lump me into that “we” haha.

Why couldn’t we draft some sort of Punt God and be set for years?

Just remember, AAron Rodgers dropped deep into the first, Lamar Jackson was the last pick of the first, etc. these are first ballot HOF QBs that fell because people didn’t think they were the guy, the teams that picked them regret nothing. The same could be said of Jordan love. On the other hand the draft class which landed JA was considered one of the best ever at the time of the draft and the 3rd and 5th guys taken turned out great, the others average at best. So to say there isn’t a franchise QB in this draft is no sure thing. Dart looks like the best prospect to me, but I don’t know crap and can admit that.

There is never a bad time to land a franchise QB, even if it’s only as trade bait.

You take him, worked just fine for the Packers.

I don’t know if I agree or not. He has been more of 1A, but it reminds me of Diggs w Theilen, where once he was THE guy, he became the Alpha dog. Will he be that? I don’t know and if he’s in SF again, he won’t be getting enough looks to show it again. Now either way you shape it, his contract is still good when you consider Higgins and Metcalf getting paid like they are and neither being any better than Ayiuk at any point. Either he’s getting paid as a low end one or high end 2, but either way, it’s a perfectly acceptable deal.