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Sources deep from within tell me whatever this is could also involve Zach Ertz.

Plaxico is Gabe Davis? By all means, explain that one.

WGN was the only time I recall an out of market channel being broadcast in other regions. Not sure if WGN was in Buffalo as well but it was in Detroit. So nearly all Bulls games. Then the Cubs and White Sox.

Big body, contested catch guy, a little more like Keon than I would say Gabe is, but not an athlete compared to him. Keon has a 38 inch vertical compared to Dukes 30 inch vertical. That is a huge difference. Keon ran the 10 yard sprint at 1.54 which is above average for a guy his size while Williams was at 1.70. We haven't had a lot of bigger contested catch types here. Certainly none with this sort of athletic ability.

Coleman is two inches taller, 3 inches more vertical, faster 10 yard sprint, way more athletic. Gabe was our deep threat. His hands sucked, limited route tree. He gave us no additional bump in the red zone. He wasn’t a jump ball or contested catch guy. They both have reasonably slower 40’s and are not short. The players have nothing else in common besides that. We haven’t had a Coleman in this offense yet it really in Buffalo since I can remember. Who would be a Buffalo comp to the guy even going back to the 90’s? I don’t think we have had one.

What does Coleman have in common with Davis outside of being bigger than average? I don’t see anything else.

Josh Allen QBR ranks 2023 3rd 2022 2nd 2021 6th 2020 3rd Cam Newton QBR Ranks 2014 18th 2015 11th 2016 25th 2017 19th

This is boring, but you clearly need it spelled out Josh Allen QBR ranks 2023 3rd 2022 2nd 2021 6th 2020 3rd Cam Newton QBR Ranks 2014 18th 2015 11th 2016 25th 2017 19th I got you most of the way. How about you finish this off and let me know how often teams makes the playoffs with a top 5 QBR vs 15 QBR or lower? I know it is hard for you to understand that a team with less talent can actually perform more consistently but it's actually rather common when you have top 5 QB. If you want to give Beane all the credit for landing an elite QB and supporting him with nothing that is ok. If you want to celebrate being champions over the Miami Dolphins each year that is ok as well. I think most of us would like to actually win a SB and for that to happen we need more talent than a "crappy Panthers team" that couldn't even win a Super Bowl or sustain success who only played scrubs. 😂

QB play, it sort of takes that to be good right? Lets go win another AFC east crown!

I think we are underestimating Samuel. I see him ahead of Shakir but I suppose it's a good sign that people see it differently. As a whole I think this group is going to surprise people. I can't help but think back to MLB last year where it appeared like we had nothing and Beane didn't care and he knew what we had in Bernard. I'm hopeful WR/TE plays out that way this year. I expect one of those guys, perhaps even two, to be signifgantly more productive than they ever have. First bet would be Dalton, second Samuel. I think Knox or even Shorter could also crash the party. Then Keon will be a huge piece for Josh out of structure and in the red zone in his first year.

So you feel Buffalo has been better? Not sure why that triggered you so greatly. You yourself just said at the very most 3 position groups are better out of what? 8 total? The furthest we have gone is not as far as they went. Now we enter rebuilding and sure, we can possibly hang another AFC east banner this year but is that because we built a better team or as you said we have gotten much better contributions at QB? How much does it even matter? Who cares about the AFC east titles if we don’t have the talent to go further. Outside that MVP year Newton did not perform like a Top 3 QB and just because you give this regime credit for Josh consistently doing so the reason we consistently fall short is because we cant build a better all around team. At least that’s what it appears to me. I mean, when you look at the positional groupings of a team many people including yourself have basically called trash, then you consider that we are not better than the trash in the majority of those groupings. Hmmm. Maybe that is why I made this post. For all our success I was surprised that those Carolina squads had more talent. Which to me says a lot about the perceived success of this regime and the direction it’s going. This is not the first rodeo for any of them and the face that in many ways it looks the same or worse doesn’t get me all hot and bothered.

We need to move on

Keon runs so vertically and is rigid with his arms. This is stuff that the Bills can work on him with. Along with his natural talents he will be just fine.

Simple answers to complex things. Not surprising. I guess I'm a bit taken back that we haven't been able to build a better roster than that team. But the thread was intended for conversation. Nothing more. What positions are we better at on that roster?

What's sort of a bummer with these highlights is just how well the plays are designed. The energy we seem to be playing with. Diggs specifically. This team just doesn't seem to be having fun like they once did. Thus far the best years of this run are behind us. The only thing that will change that is the results.

So take Allen off the field and replace him with an average level QB and we still beat KC? We still beat the Chargers? We run all over the Cowboys? We come from behind vs Miami? Allen or the threat of Allen contributed to all of our wins. Newton playing like a below average QB is why Carolina didn't sustain success. You can only give this group so much credit for landing a single player. They have not been able to develop the roster even as well as they did almost 10 years ago.

I miss John Browns TD dance. I'm going to make that my after sex dance.

Not that hard to figure out

Beane has had more time, more control, and we are not as good in nearly any area. In addition to this we are taking the form of what could be considered to be the wrong design. The fact that Allen keeps the boat floating so it never actually sinks is a curse as much as it is a blessing. It's remarkably similar

I would rather we didn't build the Houston Oilers and I wouldn't hang up my consolation trophies just because another team was good.

The 2015 Carolina Panthers: Have the Bills during the McDermott era ever been better? Try actually reading more than a title and being less condescending before you tell others to do better.

I felt a good mature man like yourself could see the comparison was about the current Bills and not the 90’s. Next time I will post about our AFL championship teams compared to the Carolina Panthers, because that makes sense

His foot speed is excellent for a WR his size. It’s his route running he needs to work on.

He was excellent at MSU and had a ton of interest when he decided to transfer. He went to a Spartans BB game earlier this year wearing an Izzo jersey. He talks fondly about MSU and the MSU alum I know speak very highly of him. My closest friend texted me about him right away. Said he was one of the best athletes at WR he had seen play there. I said better than Plaxico? He said Plaxico isn't close. He has a chance to be special. https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/2024/03/07/keon-coleman-michigan-state-basketball-msu-transfer-spartans-wr-florida-state/72883166007/